Jony Ive to speak on future of design at Smithsonian in Washington D.C. on Nov. 29

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  • Reply 21 of 35
    thedba said:

    williamh said:
    Jony sure seems to have a hell of a lot of free time to attend all of these events and get in front of the media. Is he actually doing any designing anymore?
    A soup can at a museum is art.  A soup can at the grocery is a can of soup. This is part of his design job.
    Very well said.

    It's a difficult line for Ive to walk, I'm sure, as I'm sure at least part of his message will likely include encouraging people to appreciate the aesthetic quality and intrinsic design of a thing in an objective sense, not beholden to the subjective judgement of the members of the 'Art' world. This is a message that will cause a lot of cognitive dissonance, and resistance, in those from the 'Art' world that have build their careers on the subjective nature of how art is seen today. Of course, the modern idea of what Art is has been framed in a subjective, fickle manner that changes relative to the popularity of those involved, to the point where the credibility of most 'Art' these days, whether deservedly or not, is built on a house-of-cards based on an Emperor's-New-Clothes-like echo-chamber of subjective opinions. Of course, the development of how 'Art' is perceived has matched closely with modern society's political and ideological ethos, particularly the fixation on sujbjectivism and relativism, which is informing today's Kunstwollen.
    I'm sure that Tim Cook is now relieved that the Appleinsider peanut gallery is picking on Jony Ive instead of him. 
    Um.. who's picking on Ive here?

    edit: Well, apparently there's someone on here being a ____ regarding Ive, but I have no idea how you got that from my post. Maybe consider putting a little thought into your posts?
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  • Reply 22 of 35
    lkrupp said:
    Whenever Jony Ive’s name is mentioned the snark flows like water here. I guess it’s true about tech types, that you don’t give a crap how something looks, just the specs. I’ve seen  up close some of those big gamer machines that look like they came from a Lego movie, or maybe Dr. Evil's lair. Black plastic, flashing lights, LEDs all over the things, sharks with laser beams on their heads. So that’s what’s preferred over Ive’s design tastes?

    Ive is generally acknowledged as the premier industrial designer of our era and Apple is lucky to have him. Steve chose well.
    No, the snark is because Ive is full of shit.
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  • Reply 23 of 35
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,235administrator
    VishalS said:
    Apple Chief Design Officer Jony Ive will be making an appearance in Washington D.C. and is helming a talk titled "The Future of Design" with Steve Jobs biography author Rick Tetzeli.




    The Smithsonian reports that ticket reservations for the event are all claimed. However, there is an online waitlist for people who want to attend -- and the possibility of getting a seat the day of on a first-come first-served basis.

    AppleInsider got the notification at 3 a.m. on Wednesday morning. By 7 a.m., the ticket reservations were already depleted.

    "Jonathan Ive, Chief Design Officer of Apple, is widely considered the world's most influential industrial designer and plays a key role in Apple's status as one of the most recognized and innovative brands in history," writes the Smithsonian, publicizing the talk. "As CDO, he is behind all aspects of the look and feel of the iPhone, iPad, MacBook, and Apple watch-- as well as major architectural projects like Apple Park-- and new ideas and initiatives in development."

    The event will be held in the Ring Auditorium in the Smithsonian. It is being organized by the Hirshhorn Museum, and is presented in partnership with the Smithsonian Magazine.

    Ive also recently spoke in New York City. At that event, he discussed the joy of joining Apple, the iPhone X design versus available technology, and how Steve Jobs taught him how to say no.

    Rick Tetzeli is the editor-at-large at Fast Company. He also authored the 2015 biography "Becoming Steve Jobs: The Evolution of a Reckless Upstart into a Visionary Leader."
    Apple should stop hiding its software flaws in the name of good design. The good designs are of no use to us consumers if the general experience with the Software is bad. It is so sad to see so many software being released with bugs and being patched later on.  Miss the days when the Apple product really worked.  

    Oh good, this again.

    "I remember in (X) when software was tested! Not like now at (X+10)!"
    The truth hurts. Can't blame Forestall anymore. 
    System 5.0 - crashed the new Mac Plus. Had to go to an Apple dealer to get 5.1
    System 6.0.2 - had a nasty drive formatting bug, as in, it might format your hard drive without telling you.
    System 7 - Font/DA Mover problems. Got more than 52 fonts? Tough crap.
    System 7.1 - Got a color mac? Tough. It won't boot your machine, but it will install fine. Go to an Apple Dealer. Oh, and don't forget the 11 different hardware enablers that you probably needed to have one or more of.
    MacOS 8 - Networking was problematic. So was just about every device driver, ever.
    MacOS 8.1 - Networking was fine, but SCSI chains sometimes needed an extra terminator if you had three devices beyond the computer.
    MacOS 9.0.3 - Got a PowerBook? Your computer probably wouldn't sleep, even with the lid closed. Fortunately, broadband started to be a thing about here.
    MacOS X wasn't usable until 10.2. The vaunted 10.6 shipped with SO MANY bugs, it wasn't usable until 10.6.3.

    Do I really need to continue?
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  • Reply 24 of 35
    williamh said:
    Jony sure seems to have a hell of a lot of free time to attend all of these events and get in front of the media. Is he actually doing any designing anymore?
    A soup can at a museum is art.  A soup can at the grocery is a can of soup. This is part of his design job.
    I disagree with the suggestion that Jony Ive is a can of soup.
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  • Reply 25 of 35
    appexappex Posts: 687member
    Jony, functionality FIRST. Then, the rest.
    muthuk_vanalingam
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  • Reply 26 of 35
    VishalS said:
    Apple Chief Design Officer Jony Ive will be making an appearance in Washington D.C. and is helming a talk titled "The Future of Design" with Steve Jobs biography author Rick Tetzeli.




    The Smithsonian reports that ticket reservations for the event are all claimed. However, there is an online waitlist for people who want to attend -- and the possibility of getting a seat the day of on a first-come first-served basis.

    AppleInsider got the notification at 3 a.m. on Wednesday morning. By 7 a.m., the ticket reservations were already depleted.

    "Jonathan Ive, Chief Design Officer of Apple, is widely considered the world's most influential industrial designer and plays a key role in Apple's status as one of the most recognized and innovative brands in history," writes the Smithsonian, publicizing the talk. "As CDO, he is behind all aspects of the look and feel of the iPhone, iPad, MacBook, and Apple watch-- as well as major architectural projects like Apple Park-- and new ideas and initiatives in development."

    The event will be held in the Ring Auditorium in the Smithsonian. It is being organized by the Hirshhorn Museum, and is presented in partnership with the Smithsonian Magazine.

    Ive also recently spoke in New York City. At that event, he discussed the joy of joining Apple, the iPhone X design versus available technology, and how Steve Jobs taught him how to say no.

    Rick Tetzeli is the editor-at-large at Fast Company. He also authored the 2015 biography "Becoming Steve Jobs: The Evolution of a Reckless Upstart into a Visionary Leader."
    Apple should stop hiding its software flaws in the name of good design. The good designs are of no use to us consumers if the general experience with the Software is bad. It is so sad to see so many software being released with bugs and being patched later on.  Miss the days when the Apple product really worked.  

    Oh good, this again.

    "I remember in (X) when software was tested! Not like now at (X+10)!"
    The truth hurts. Can't blame Forestall anymore. 
    What truth? Use your hammer — all software has always had bugs, including previous versions of iOS and OS X. Saying anything else is just fantasy. 
    muthuk_vanalingamwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 27 of 35
    AI_lias said:
    lkrupp said:
    Whenever Jony Ive’s name is mentioned the snark flows like water here. I guess it’s true about tech types, that you don’t give a crap how something looks, just the specs. I’ve seen  up close some of those big gamer machines that look like they came from a Lego movie, or maybe Dr. Evil's lair. Black plastic, flashing lights, LEDs all over the things, sharks with laser beams on their heads. So that’s what’s preferred over Ive’s design tastes?

    Ive is generally acknowledged as the premier industrial designer of our era and Apple is lucky to have him. Steve chose well.
    No, the snark is because Ive is full of shit.
    Yes, so full of shit that his products are the best selling CE products of all time and his company the most successful in the history of the human race. 

    Keep hatin’, brah. Meanwhile, we’ll keep buying excellent products. 
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  • Reply 28 of 35
    AI_lias said:
    lkrupp said:
    Whenever Jony Ive’s name is mentioned the snark flows like water here. I guess it’s true about tech types, that you don’t give a crap how something looks, just the specs. I’ve seen  up close some of those big gamer machines that look like they came from a Lego movie, or maybe Dr. Evil's lair. Black plastic, flashing lights, LEDs all over the things, sharks with laser beams on their heads. So that’s what’s preferred over Ive’s design tastes?

    Ive is generally acknowledged as the premier industrial designer of our era and Apple is lucky to have him. Steve chose well.
    No, the snark is because Ive is full of shit.
    Yes, so full of shit that his products are the best selling CE products of all time and his company the most successful in the history of the human race. 

    Keep hatin’, brah. Meanwhile, we’ll keep buying excellent products. 
    Excellent products on not, he's still full of it. Each time he opens his mouth, bullshit comes out. I didn't say anything about products.
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  • Reply 29 of 35
    williamhwilliamh Posts: 1,049member
    williamh said:
    Jony sure seems to have a hell of a lot of free time to attend all of these events and get in front of the media. Is he actually doing any designing anymore?
    A soup can at a museum is art.  A soup can at the grocery is a can of soup. This is part of his design job.
    I disagree with the suggestion that Jony Ive is a can of soup.
    Everybody’s a comedian these days :-). Sometimes to appreciate art, it helps to understand what went into the making of it.
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  • Reply 30 of 35
    macxpress said:

    The truth hurts. Can't blame Forestall anymore. 
    What truth?
    The Hammer of Truth!!
    watto_cobrahammeroftruth
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  • Reply 31 of 35
    appex said:
    Jony, functionality FIRST. Then, the rest.

    That's the very reason why there is a notch on the iPhone X!
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 32 of 35
    lkrupp said:
    Whenever Jony Ive’s name is mentioned the snark flows like water here. I guess it’s true about tech types, that you don’t give a crap how something looks, just the specs. I’ve seen  up close some of those big gamer machines that look like they came from a Lego movie, or maybe Dr. Evil's lair. Black plastic, flashing lights, LEDs all over the things, sharks with laser beams on their heads. So that’s what’s preferred over Ive’s design tastes?

    Ive is generally acknowledged as the premier industrial designer of our era and Apple is lucky to have him. Steve chose well.
    What he said :)

    -MAS 
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  • Reply 33 of 35
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    AI_lias said:
    AI_lias said:
    lkrupp said:
    Whenever Jony Ive’s name is mentioned the snark flows like water here. I guess it’s true about tech types, that you don’t give a crap how something looks, just the specs. I’ve seen  up close some of those big gamer machines that look like they came from a Lego movie, or maybe Dr. Evil's lair. Black plastic, flashing lights, LEDs all over the things, sharks with laser beams on their heads. So that’s what’s preferred over Ive’s design tastes?

    Ive is generally acknowledged as the premier industrial designer of our era and Apple is lucky to have him. Steve chose well.
    No, the snark is because Ive is full of shit.
    Yes, so full of shit that his products are the best selling CE products of all time and his company the most successful in the history of the human race. 

    Keep hatin’, brah. Meanwhile, we’ll keep buying excellent products. 
    Excellent products on not, he's still full of it. Each time he opens his mouth, bullshit comes out. I didn't say anything about products.
    You need a functioning right brain hemisphere to understand what he, Ive, talks about. He speaks the language of art and design schools. People in that business generally talk that way.

    What they are saying is not so much over your head, but inaccessible to one side of your head. Prescription: read Aldous Huxley's the "Doors of Perception," take some psilocybin or mescaline, then get back to us.

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  • Reply 34 of 35
    VishalS said:
    Apple Chief Design Officer Jony Ive will be making an appearance in Washington D.C. and is helming a talk titled "The Future of Design" with Steve Jobs biography author Rick Tetzeli.




    The Smithsonian reports that ticket reservations for the event are all claimed. However, there is an online waitlist for people who want to attend -- and the possibility of getting a seat the day of on a first-come first-served basis.

    AppleInsider got the notification at 3 a.m. on Wednesday morning. By 7 a.m., the ticket reservations were already depleted.

    "Jonathan Ive, Chief Design Officer of Apple, is widely considered the world's most influential industrial designer and plays a key role in Apple's status as one of the most recognized and innovative brands in history," writes the Smithsonian, publicizing the talk. "As CDO, he is behind all aspects of the look and feel of the iPhone, iPad, MacBook, and Apple watch-- as well as major architectural projects like Apple Park-- and new ideas and initiatives in development."

    The event will be held in the Ring Auditorium in the Smithsonian. It is being organized by the Hirshhorn Museum, and is presented in partnership with the Smithsonian Magazine.

    Ive also recently spoke in New York City. At that event, he discussed the joy of joining Apple, the iPhone X design versus available technology, and how Steve Jobs taught him how to say no.

    Rick Tetzeli is the editor-at-large at Fast Company. He also authored the 2015 biography "Becoming Steve Jobs: The Evolution of a Reckless Upstart into a Visionary Leader."
    Apple should stop hiding its software flaws in the name of good design. The good designs are of no use to us consumers if the general experience with the Software is bad. It is so sad to see so many software being released with bugs and being patched later on.  Miss the days when the Apple product really worked.  

    Oh good, this again.

    "I remember in (X) when software was tested! Not like now at (X+10)!"
    The truth hurts. Can't blame Forestall anymore. 
    What truth? Use your hammer — all software has always had bugs, including previous versions of iOS and OS X. Saying anything else is just fantasy. 
    Glaring bugs? Like using the letter i?
    like how shitty disk utility is in high Sierra?

    Plus from what I've heard, their internal software is terrible. 

    That's what happens when people retire or leave and you're left with people who have degrees, but no experience. Plus they're managed by people who suck as managers. 

    It's not just Apple, look at Glassdoor and read reviews from
    much of Silicon Valley employees. 
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  • Reply 35 of 35
    VishalS said:
    Apple Chief Design Officer Jony Ive will be making an appearance in Washington D.C. and is helming a talk titled "The Future of Design" with Steve Jobs biography author Rick Tetzeli.




    The Smithsonian reports that ticket reservations for the event are all claimed. However, there is an online waitlist for people who want to attend -- and the possibility of getting a seat the day of on a first-come first-served basis.

    AppleInsider got the notification at 3 a.m. on Wednesday morning. By 7 a.m., the ticket reservations were already depleted.

    "Jonathan Ive, Chief Design Officer of Apple, is widely considered the world's most influential industrial designer and plays a key role in Apple's status as one of the most recognized and innovative brands in history," writes the Smithsonian, publicizing the talk. "As CDO, he is behind all aspects of the look and feel of the iPhone, iPad, MacBook, and Apple watch-- as well as major architectural projects like Apple Park-- and new ideas and initiatives in development."

    The event will be held in the Ring Auditorium in the Smithsonian. It is being organized by the Hirshhorn Museum, and is presented in partnership with the Smithsonian Magazine.

    Ive also recently spoke in New York City. At that event, he discussed the joy of joining Apple, the iPhone X design versus available technology, and how Steve Jobs taught him how to say no.

    Rick Tetzeli is the editor-at-large at Fast Company. He also authored the 2015 biography "Becoming Steve Jobs: The Evolution of a Reckless Upstart into a Visionary Leader."
    Apple should stop hiding its software flaws in the name of good design. The good designs are of no use to us consumers if the general experience with the Software is bad. It is so sad to see so many software being released with bugs and being patched later on.  Miss the days when the Apple product really worked.  

    Oh good, this again.

    "I remember in (X) when software was tested! Not like now at (X+10)!"
    The truth hurts. Can't blame Forestall anymore. 
    What truth? Use your hammer — all software has always had bugs, including previous versions of iOS and OS X. Saying anything else is just fantasy. 
    Glaring bugs? Like using the letter i?
    like how shitty disk utility is in high Sierra?

    Plus from what I've heard, their internal software is terrible. 

    That's what happens when people retire or leave and you're left with people who have degrees, but no experience. Plus they're managed by people who suck as managers. 

    It's not just Apple, look at Glassdoor and read reviews from
    much of Silicon Valley employees. 
    They fixed the machine learning “i” bug in like a week. Big deal. 

    What bugs are present in Disk Utility?
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