[...] I can see how the placement of RAM with the new airflow design may have made it impossible for engineers, but I'd also think that they'd surely try to make the RAM accessible if it was at all possible.
edit: Finally getting desktop-grade RAM for the performance, capacity, and ECC, plus the airflow is going to cause plenty of bitching despite the clear benefits. It doesn't even look like you can access it from the front of the logic board once you remove the display.
edit 2: If that's only 2 slots then that's going to be some pricey RAM. [...]
That’s not the best image. There is another in which you can clearly see four DIMMs, two facing up above and two facing down below.
I don’t think anyone has seen non-prototypes — though it’s possible the one they let people touch in October at the Final Cut Pro conference was a production model.
So there’s still a small chance that the production models have an access panel to those slots, but it seems less likely now than it did in June.
[...] I can see how the placement of RAM with the new airflow design may have made it impossible for engineers, but I'd also think that they'd surely try to make the RAM accessible if it was at all possible.
edit: Finally getting desktop-grade RAM for the performance, capacity, and ECC, plus the airflow is going to cause plenty of bitching despite the clear benefits. It doesn't even look like you can access it from the front of the logic board once you remove the display.
edit 2: If that's only 2 slots then that's going to be some pricey RAM. [...]
That’s not the best image. There is another in which you can clearly see four DIMMs, two facing up above and two facing down below.
I don’t think anyone has seen non-prototypes — though it’s possible the one they let people touch in October at the Final Cut Pro conference was a production model.
So there’s still a small chance that the production models have an access panel to those slots, but it seems less likely now than it did in June.
You can just make the second lower pair in that image but it’s very dark.
[...] I can see how the placement of RAM with the new airflow design may have made it impossible for engineers, but I'd also think that they'd surely try to make the RAM accessible if it was at all possible.
edit: Finally getting desktop-grade RAM for the performance, capacity, and ECC, plus the airflow is going to cause plenty of bitching despite the clear benefits. It doesn't even look like you can access it from the front of the logic board once you remove the display.
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edit 2: If that's only 2 slots then that's going to be some pricey RAM. [...]
That’s not the best image. There is another in which you can clearly see four DIMMs, two facing up above and two facing down below.
I don’t think anyone has seen non-prototypes — though it’s possible the one they let people touch in October at the Final Cut Pro conference was a production model.
So there’s still a small chance that the production models have an access panel to those slots, but it seems less likely now than it did in June.
Mea culpa. I went to the trouble of bringing up the WWDC presentation so I could get a screenshot without ever considering going to the iMac Pro page on apple.com to see if they showed the internal components. The below image is much better and does indeed show 4 RAM slots—I don't even need to outline them this time. I'd say that 256 GiB RAM may be likely via a 3rd-party from day one, and 512 GiB and 1 TiB may be likely within its normal lifespan.
General maintenance or fixing or replacing parts, Soli, is why you would want to do that. Not as important in the days of SSD, but imacs still come with HDD. And things can go wrong, like the GPU issue. I myself have had to take out and bake the GPU of my 2011 iMac like the above video, the second GPU after the first one died and was replaced in a recall. It cost me four hours of my time because Apple has actively made it harder to get out the GPU that it needs to be. For Apple to fix it I was quoted AUD$945 plus labour. In a six year old machine.
Incorrect - apple didn’t make it harder than it needs to be, they made it for different priorities than DIY tinkerer ease. It’s certainly serviceable, but if you don’t do it every day it’s going to take time and be challenging.
Now put an easy-access panel in the back and I'll consider it! If a new Mac Pro comes out 2018 at least it will drive down the prices of the garbage can Macs and then I'll pick up a refurb one and use a 4k TV as a monitor. I don't need the latest greatest, but it is quite irritating how Apple paints thick lines between pro and consumer and abandons anything in the middle. $5k is too much for me.
drives die. Apple drives are not Magical. Every computer Apple makes should have easy access to drives and memory. iMacs, Mac Mini, etc. it should be a 2 minute job to replace them, not losing your computer for days at an Apple Store for repair.
drives die. Apple drives are not Magical. Every computer Apple makes should have easy access to drives and memory. iMacs, Mac Mini, etc. it should be a 2 minute job to replace them, not losing your computer for days at an Apple Store for repair.
1) Do they? I’d be more concerned about a fan failing since it has moving parts or a bad GPU since that’s been a fairly frequent issue with both Nvidia and AMD, but not an SSD failing.
2) While I’d love to have devices easier to fix there is no argument for what a company in a free market “should” do.
An SD card slot in a Mac labeled "Pro"... In 2017... Imagine that. :-) (I often get attacked in forums for daring to mention that the late 2016 and newer MacBook "Pros" lack this key feature, even though the 15" models have sufficient space for it. Suffice it to say, I love my 2015 15" rMBP in part BECAUSE it has that important slot.)
Hopefully the video card in the iMac Pro does not share the same design defect as cards of older iMacs. I've grown wearing of baking them back to life:
Since when in a past couple years has Apple had issues with the graphics card in the iMac? You can't compare a 2009 iMac to today's. These are 2 totally different systems inside and out.
The thin green line running Down the left side of my 2014 iMac, which many others have had problems with.
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I don’t think anyone has seen non-prototypes — though it’s possible the one they let people touch in October at the Final Cut Pro conference was a production model.
So there’s still a small chance that the production models have an access panel to those slots, but it seems less likely now than it did in June.
No RAM door.
you know, just like cars.
They don't want that "old beater" around, taking up space!
Heh heh.
"Have Fun Storming the Castle!"
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drives die. Apple drives are not Magical. Every computer Apple makes should have easy access to drives and memory. iMacs, Mac Mini, etc. it should be a 2 minute job to replace them, not losing your computer for days at an Apple Store for repair.
2) While I’d love to have devices easier to fix there is no argument for what a company in a free market “should” do.