Apple hires veteran producer Michelle Lee to help oversee original TV shows

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  • Reply 21 of 32
    adm1adm1 Posts: 635member
    I was trying to think of some shows I like that would come under this family-friendly "PC" criteria... "Frasier"? "Monk" maybe. Beyond that, I got nothing. Does Fast & Loud offend other than the swearing?
  • Reply 22 of 32
    adm1 said:
    "PC" criteria... "Frasier"? "Monk" maybe.
    Even those are rather sketchy.
    family-friendly “PC”
    You know, I’ve found political correctness to be the opposite of that.
    allmypeople
  • Reply 23 of 32
    Why are we (y'all) obsessing over the alleged fact that Apple would never produce anything that isn't G rated?  What history do we have to back this up?  Apple has never been a media company, so it becomes one, all bets are off about how it evolves.  I would be less surprised if Apple buys HBO than I was Apple buying Beats, for example.
  • Reply 24 of 32
    jSnively said:
    In an industry that's stifled by political correctness, I just can't see Apple doing anything other than kids shows.
    The most successful shows are the ones still pushing boundaries because people are so sick of PC culture being crammed down our throats.
    Carpool Karaoke was awful. But I'm guess there's people with beigemobiles who will get something out of it.
    Apple will do what's good for the Apple brand. If that results in "boring" shows then so be it -- some of the most popular shows on TV are the most rote, unoriginal content you could imagine. There's a very clear place for those things in the market. That said, I wouldn't be surprised (if the initiative proves successful) to see a sub-label for more mature content, sort of how Disney used to own Miramax/Dimension.

    Personally, I just want to see them do better. Just even thinking about Planet of the Apps makes me cry a little inside.

    Also maybe dial it back a notch with your "PC" rhetoric, thanks.
    Yeah, being a shareholder, I'd like to see them do better. I'm sure they have lots of research on what can be successful or not and potentially make money. But with art, it's not a science. I won't "dial back" talk of "PC", thanks. I know open expression of thoughts scares some people, but I'll give credit to the users of this site. They're not infantilized milksops.
  • Reply 25 of 32
    spice-boy said:
    In an industry that's stifled by political correctness, I just can't see Apple doing anything other than kids shows.
    The most successful shows are the ones still pushing boundaries because people are so sick of PC culture being crammed down our throats.
    Carpool Karaoke was awful. But I'm guess there's people with beigemobiles who will get something out of it.
    Some people prefer not to watch violence passing as entertainment, calling upbeat cheerful stuff "PC" is ridiculous. Not everyone wants what you want, nothing new about that. 
    I should have given more examples. I'm not necessarily talking about violence. My comments apply to comedy as well. A company like Apple could never make a Seinfeld, The Golden Girls, Cheers, Cosby Show or Curb Your Enthusiasm.
    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 26 of 32
    boltsfan17boltsfan17 Posts: 1,822member
    Take that, Amazon Studios. Hopefully they can greenlight and develop some successful programs!
    If Apple is only making family friendly shows, Amazon Studios has nothing to worry about. 
    Disney doesn’t have to make R-rated features to give other studios competition at the box office.
    That's different. Apple isn't making movies, they are making TV shows. Different competition. 
  • Reply 27 of 32
    jSnivelyjSnively Posts: 311administrator
    [..]
    Yeah, being a shareholder, I'd like to see them do better. I'm sure they have lots of research on what can be successful or not and potentially make money. But with art, it's not a science. I won't "dial back" talk of "PC", thanks. I know open expression of thoughts scares some people, but I'll give credit to the users of this site. They're not infantilized milksops.
    You can talk about the merits of being something being "PC" as much as you want, but your original post is pretty flippant -- just cutting it off before you rile up the local troublemakers and I have to take more time out of my day to moderate another thread full of lunacy.

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    I should have given more examples. I'm not necessarily talking about violence. My comments apply to comedy as well. A company like Apple could never make a Seinfeld, The Golden Girls, Cheers, Cosby Show or Curb Your Enthusiasm.
    I could see them do Cosby, Cheers, or Seinfeld without any problems. There's also plenty of interesting sci-fi they could do -- a-la star trek or Stargate -- that would have the potential to be good. I think they could go up to PG-13ish content and it wouldn't change the perception of their brand at all. You just won't get R-rated content from them.


  • Reply 28 of 32
    nhtnht Posts: 4,005member
    Take that, Amazon Studios. Hopefully they can greenlight and develop some successful programs!
    If Apple is only making family friendly shows, Amazon Studios has nothing to worry about. 
    Because Disney, Pixar, Nickelodeon, etc make no money and have zero weight in the industry.

    Because shows like Flash, Agents of SHIELD, Dr. Who, Big Bang Theory, etc needs sex and gore like GoT to be successful.

    If Apple executes well there plenty of PG/PG-13 drama, action, romance, comedy potential.



  • Reply 29 of 32
    nhtnht Posts: 4,005member
    Take that, Amazon Studios. Hopefully they can greenlight and develop some successful programs!
    If Apple is only making family friendly shows, Amazon Studios has nothing to worry about. 
    Disney doesn’t have to make R-rated features to give other studios competition at the box office.
    That's different. Apple isn't making movies, they are making TV shows. Different competition. 
    Disney has an asston of tv programming that is wildly more successful than Amazon Prime programming.
  • Reply 30 of 32
    Why is programming only good if it has sex.violence and foul language?
  • Reply 31 of 32
    SoliSoli Posts: 6,179member
    Why is programming only good if it has sex.violence and foul language?
    1) Because limiting an extensive lexicon and concepts at the expense of the story makes for poorer entertainment.

    2) Language is only foul because you choose to be offended by it. Usually I see people find fuck!, shit!, and goddammit! as expressions to be offensive despite the context not referring to fornication, excrement, or religion, but then are perfectly fine with using roundabout ways to express bigotry, which has a very clear context. IOW, fucking myopic dispirit hypocrites.

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  • Reply 32 of 32
    jSnively said:
    [..]
    Yeah, being a shareholder, I'd like to see them do better. I'm sure they have lots of research on what can be successful or not and potentially make money. But with art, it's not a science. I won't "dial back" talk of "PC", thanks. I know open expression of thoughts scares some people, but I'll give credit to the users of this site. They're not infantilized milksops.
    You can talk about the merits of being something being "PC" as much as you want, but your original post is pretty flippant -- just cutting it off before you rile up the local troublemakers and I have to take more time out of my day to moderate another thread full of lunacy.
    I could see them do Cosby, Cheers, or Seinfeld without any problems. There's also plenty of interesting sci-fi they could do -- a-la star trek or Stargate -- that would have the potential to be good. I think they could go up to PG-13ish content and it wouldn't change the perception of their brand at all. You just won't get R-rated content from them.


    I'll just take your word that there's "troublemakers." I've been on this site a long time but not "dug-in" enough to even see that if I wanted. However, your wording raises my eyebrows more than people arguing over political correctness. It's Orwellian... which I find creepy.

    Anyway, re-watch any of those TV shows I mentioned. They would never get made today for broadcast tv. Maybe cable... definitely not by Apple. Star Trek or Stargate type of stuff, maybe.
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