How iPhone batteries work, and how Apple manages performance over time

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  • Reply 21 of 52
    ivanhivanh Posts: 597member

    Important info for anyone worried or confused by the battery controversy. The average mobile phone customer (iPhone or Android) probably knows that the battery capacity will decrease over time, but that's about it. Apple wasn't doing anything underhanded with the 10.2.1 update.
    How can you be sure that Apple wasn't doing anything underhanded?  Can you find an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled down from 1400 MHz to below 900 MHz without any app running at air-conditioned room while being charged over 95% and the battery capacity is as healthy as 93% and it's only 8 months old?

    Is throttling an old battery problem? Look at facts; forget un-evidential believes. Think again.   
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  • Reply 22 of 52
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,004administrator
    ivanh said:

    Important info for anyone worried or confused by the battery controversy. The average mobile phone customer (iPhone or Android) probably knows that the battery capacity will decrease over time, but that's about it. Apple wasn't doing anything underhanded with the 10.2.1 update.
    How can you be sure that Apple wasn't doing anything underhanded?  Can you find an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled down from 1400 MHz to below 900 MHz without any app running at air-conditioned room while being charged over 95% and the battery capacity is as healthy as 93% and it's only 8 months old?

    Is throttling an old battery problem? Look at facts; forget un-evidential believes. Think again.   
    Look at the facts posted in response to your first post in this thread. Feel free to forget your own un-evidential beliefs.
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  • Reply 23 of 52
    ivanhivanh Posts: 597member

    78Bandit said:
    The biggest question to me is why didn't Apple have a clue this was going to happen as fast as it did?

    This article is full of great information as to what is happening, but I don't think we'll ever figure out exactly why the phone didn't perform as the engineers expected.
    I think you're right -- I also suspect that a great deal of this tale won't be told. It may be something as arcane as just very very slightly off chemistry in the battery, or like you said, a slightly different critical voltage.
    Mike, if you are not helping Apple to contain damages and helping Apple to sell their possibly piles of iPhone 6S batteries in the inventory, you need to ask Apple and John Poole and give us information about why iPhone 6 Plus, obviously throttled too, was not mentioned. Why many iPhone 6 Plus was slowed down to unable to take a picture within 10 seconds? Why doing a screenshot requires 20 seconds?  Why a 8 months old iPhone 6 Plus will be slowed down from 1400 MHz to below 900 MHz at air-conditioned environment with no app running, and the battery is above 90% as shown by coconutBattery app?  Why Apple is not offering battery replacement for iPhone 6 Plus, or is it?
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  • Reply 24 of 52
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,165member
    ivanh said:
    Very informative. Thanks 😉
    It's misleading and de tour the attention that other iPhones and other reasons of throttling down the performance.  
    No, it’s not misleading nor designed to detour your attention from Apple. You’re being a paranoid nut. 
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  • Reply 25 of 52
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,004administrator
    ivanh said:

    78Bandit said:
    The biggest question to me is why didn't Apple have a clue this was going to happen as fast as it did?

    This article is full of great information as to what is happening, but I don't think we'll ever figure out exactly why the phone didn't perform as the engineers expected.
    I think you're right -- I also suspect that a great deal of this tale won't be told. It may be something as arcane as just very very slightly off chemistry in the battery, or like you said, a slightly different critical voltage.
    Mike, if you are not helping Apple to contain damages and helping Apple to sell their possibly piles of iPhone 6S batteries in the inventory, you need to ask Apple and John Poole and give us information about why iPhone 6 Plus, obviously throttled too, was not mentioned. Why many iPhone 6 Plus was slowed down to unable to take a picture within 10 seconds? Why doing a screenshot requires 20 seconds?  Why a 8 months old iPhone 6 Plus will be slowed down from 1400 MHz to below 900 MHz at air-conditioned environment with no app running, and the battery is above 90% as shown by coconutBattery app?  Why Apple is not offering battery replacement for iPhone 6 Plus, or is it?
    Dude. Get up to speed. You've got a load of bad data on your hands. Read the linked article from Poole. Listen to Poole's podcast with iMore. Re-read this article. Re-read the responses to you and your slowing down, and why it happens.

    Your conspiracy theory doesn't work. We're not the ones cherry-picking data to prove a point.

    And, it is offering replacement batteries for the 6 plus and 6s Plus, as far as I know. When somebody says the iPhone 6, it often doesn't just mean the smaller one, it means the iPhone 6 Plus as well. Give me a bit. I'll confirm.

    Edit: yes, they are. And, we said they were about 15 minutes after Apple made the announcement last week.

    edited January 2018
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  • Reply 26 of 52
    ivanhivanh Posts: 597member

    ivanh said:
    Sorry Mike, I know that your intention in writing this article is to help Apple to contain damages. But,
    1. Apple slows down my iPhone 6 Plus (it) from 1400MHz to 936MHz randomly, while no app was running (besides CPU DasherX with which used to show the CPU speed). It was in room temperature, i.e. not in “extremely cold” temperature, but it was getting hot by itself that trigger me to test it.
    2. The iPhone 6 Plus is only 10 months old and the battery condition is 94% as revealed by coconutBattery app when connected to a Mac.
    3. Throttling happens too when the iPhone 6 Plus is attached to a 2.1A Apple original charging source.
    4. All my family members and many friends with iPhone 6 Plus experience speed throttling more severe than iPhone 6s.
    So, all of the battery myth told by Apple and you, fail to give an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled!
    Being slow isn’t the same as throttling peak power draw. 

    Dunno DasherX but it sounds like an app. 

    Accusing Mike of working for Apple PR reveals you to be cluelessly paranoid. 
    CPU DasherX is an app on iOS App Store.  
    "Being slow" is different from "Being slowed down". I know the difference.  It seems that you are confused.
    I didn't accuse Mike. I am asking Mike to give evidence that he is not!
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  • Reply 27 of 52
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,165member
    ivanh said:

    Important info for anyone worried or confused by the battery controversy. The average mobile phone customer (iPhone or Android) probably knows that the battery capacity will decrease over time, but that's about it. Apple wasn't doing anything underhanded with the 10.2.1 update.
    How can you be sure that Apple wasn't doing anything underhanded?  Can you find an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled down from 1400 MHz to below 900 MHz without any app running at air-conditioned room while being charged over 95% and the battery capacity is as healthy as 93% and it's only 8 months old?

    Is throttling an old battery problem? Look at facts; forget un-evidential believes. Think again.   
    This has already been explained to you. You’re either willfully ignorant or trolling. 
    GeorgeBMac
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  • Reply 28 of 52
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,165member

    ivanh said:

    dewme said:
    Very well done Mike, informative, logical, and clearly presented.

    Knowing that Apple is presented with the same engineering, science, fabrication, manufacturing, and materials challenges that all other smartphone makers are faced with yet is still able to produce the best-in-class product in most every product category that they compete in says a lot of positive things about Apple and the quality of people they employ and partner with. We enthusiasts sometimes dwell way too heavily on the negative fringe cases and forget how well Apple excels in the fundamentals of engineering and business. Fortunately, the market knows and rewards them accordingly.  
    Is it an Apple advertisement?
    Is it a poorly programmed trollbot?
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  • Reply 29 of 52
    ivanhivanh Posts: 597member

    kimberly said:
    Important info for anyone worried or confused by the battery controversy. The average mobile phone customer (iPhone or Android) probably knows that the battery capacity will decrease over time, but that's about it. Apple wasn't doing anything underhanded with the 10.2.1 update.
    I would think (don't know) that the majority of Apple customers appreciate Lithium-ion batteries degrade over time.  Depends what you mean exactly by "underhanded" however my interpretation is that when Apple decided to slow down a device via IOS because the battery in that device is not up to a performance threshold AND not be transparent about it, then that is being underhanded.  Apple admitted as much in the press release that came out a few days ago.
    Sorry Kimbery, Lithium-ion degrades over time, and thus Apple should decide an iPhone that is battery-replaceable by user.  My iPhone 6 Plus has 93% health, and no app was running.  It has been randomly throttled down from 1400 MHz to below 900 MHz.  
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  • Reply 30 of 52
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,165member

    ivanh said:

    78Bandit said:
    The biggest question to me is why didn't Apple have a clue this was going to happen as fast as it did?

    This article is full of great information as to what is happening, but I don't think we'll ever figure out exactly why the phone didn't perform as the engineers expected.
    I think you're right -- I also suspect that a great deal of this tale won't be told. It may be something as arcane as just very very slightly off chemistry in the battery, or like you said, a slightly different critical voltage.
    Mike, if you are not helping Apple to contain damages and helping Apple to sell their possibly piles of iPhone 6S batteries in the inventory, you need to ask Apple and John Poole and give us information about why iPhone 6 Plus, obviously throttled too, was not mentioned. Why many iPhone 6 Plus was slowed down to unable to take a picture within 10 seconds? Why doing a screenshot requires 20 seconds?  Why a 8 months old iPhone 6 Plus will be slowed down from 1400 MHz to below 900 MHz at air-conditioned environment with no app running, and the battery is above 90% as shown by coconutBattery app?  Why Apple is not offering battery replacement for iPhone 6 Plus, or is it?
    Christ. First the lie — whatever tool you used to read your phones CPU speed is itself an app. Durr. 

    Second, peak power draw throttling isn’t what’s making your phone take 10 second to take a picture or 20 seconds to take a screenshot. I don’t know what is if the claim is true. But that isn’t throttling.
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  • Reply 31 of 52
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,165member
    ivanh said:

    ivanh said:
    Sorry Mike, I know that your intention in writing this article is to help Apple to contain damages. But,
    1. Apple slows down my iPhone 6 Plus (it) from 1400MHz to 936MHz randomly, while no app was running (besides CPU DasherX with which used to show the CPU speed). It was in room temperature, i.e. not in “extremely cold” temperature, but it was getting hot by itself that trigger me to test it.
    2. The iPhone 6 Plus is only 10 months old and the battery condition is 94% as revealed by coconutBattery app when connected to a Mac.
    3. Throttling happens too when the iPhone 6 Plus is attached to a 2.1A Apple original charging source.
    4. All my family members and many friends with iPhone 6 Plus experience speed throttling more severe than iPhone 6s.
    So, all of the battery myth told by Apple and you, fail to give an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled!
    Being slow isn’t the same as throttling peak power draw. 

    Dunno DasherX but it sounds like an app. 

    Accusing Mike of working for Apple PR reveals you to be cluelessly paranoid. 
    CPU DasherX is an app on iOS App Store.  
    "Being slow" is different from "Being slowed down". I know the difference.  It seems that you are confused.
    I didn't accuse Mike. I am asking Mike to give evidence that he is not!
    You claimed you had no app running, but DasherX is an...app. 

    Claiming Mike is working for Apple PR and saying “prove you’re not!” is a logical fallacy. It’s called an “appeal to ignorance”. A logical fallacy is a failed argument and it means you’ve lost. Read up son:

    http://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Appeal-to-Ignorance.html

    https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/56/Argument-from-Ignorance
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  • Reply 32 of 52
    ivanhivanh Posts: 597member

    ivanh said:
    Sorry Mike, I know that your intention in writing this article is to help Apple to contain damages. But,
    1. Apple slows down my iPhone 6 Plus (it) from 1400MHz to 936MHz randomly, while no app was running (besides CPU DasherX with which used to show the CPU speed). It was in room temperature, i.e. not in “extremely cold” temperature, but it was getting hot by itself that trigger me to test it.
    2. The iPhone 6 Plus is only 10 months old and the battery condition is 94% as revealed by coconutBattery app when connected to a Mac.
    3. Throttling happens too when the iPhone 6 Plus is attached to a 2.1A Apple original charging source.
    4. All my family members and many friends with iPhone 6 Plus experience speed throttling more severe than iPhone 6s.
    So, all of the battery myth told by Apple and you, fail to give an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled!
    I don't care about "Apple damages." We have no connection to them.

    You're confusing normal operation with throttling a CPU because of a bad battery.

    1) Yes, that's normal. The processor doesn't run at 100% all the time. It runs at full speed only when it has to to (guess why) preserve battery life.
    2) Okay, see point 1
    3) Okay, see point 1. And, connected to a power source changes nothing as far as CPU speed goes.
    4) Okay, see point 1

    Your phone is operating as normal. Mobile processors aren't binary in speed state - they aren't not running or at full throttle with nothing in between. They have an entire range of speed settings, as you can see in the Geekbench graph peaks, measuring the throttling with 10.2.1.
    Sorry Mike.  I have your words and I have no reason not to believe that you have no connection to Apple.  This point settled until new evidence found in the future.

    Let me give you more information.  I just gave one example. The iPhone 6 Pluses are throttled and got hot, while charging or not-charging.  The processor was not running at 100% while idle? It was running below 60% of performance.  Also, should the CPU speed back up while on demand by an app? or stay slow until restart?  

    Re 3) above, connected to a power source means the power surge will not be affected by an old battery. Hasn't it explained the irrelevancy of a battery issue?  It's NOT the battery, boy.

    Also, Mike, you still didn't address the reasons why Apple avoid to include iPhone 6 Plus.  Find it out.  I'd appreciate your work then.
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  • Reply 33 of 52
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,165member
    ivanh said:

    kimberly said:
    Important info for anyone worried or confused by the battery controversy. The average mobile phone customer (iPhone or Android) probably knows that the battery capacity will decrease over time, but that's about it. Apple wasn't doing anything underhanded with the 10.2.1 update.
    I would think (don't know) that the majority of Apple customers appreciate Lithium-ion batteries degrade over time.  Depends what you mean exactly by "underhanded" however my interpretation is that when Apple decided to slow down a device via IOS because the battery in that device is not up to a performance threshold AND not be transparent about it, then that is being underhanded.  Apple admitted as much in the press release that came out a few days ago.
    Sorry Kimbery, Lithium-ion degrades over time, and thus Apple should decide an iPhone that is battery-replaceable by user.  My iPhone 6 Plus has 93% health, and no app was running.  It has been randomly throttled down from 1400 MHz to below 900 MHz.  
    Simply because batteries degrade over time is not reason enough to demand easily swappable batteries. Doing so imposes design compromises such as losing space since it must be rectangular, graspable, contact pads, seams, seals, etc... This may not be for the better. It may even mean less capacity. 

    You can can change your battery if you’re handy. Or pay an Apple tech to. Just like a car. 
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  • Reply 34 of 52
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,004administrator
    ivanh said:

    ivanh said:
    Sorry Mike, I know that your intention in writing this article is to help Apple to contain damages. But,
    1. Apple slows down my iPhone 6 Plus (it) from 1400MHz to 936MHz randomly, while no app was running (besides CPU DasherX with which used to show the CPU speed). It was in room temperature, i.e. not in “extremely cold” temperature, but it was getting hot by itself that trigger me to test it.
    2. The iPhone 6 Plus is only 10 months old and the battery condition is 94% as revealed by coconutBattery app when connected to a Mac.
    3. Throttling happens too when the iPhone 6 Plus is attached to a 2.1A Apple original charging source.
    4. All my family members and many friends with iPhone 6 Plus experience speed throttling more severe than iPhone 6s.
    So, all of the battery myth told by Apple and you, fail to give an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled!
    I don't care about "Apple damages." We have no connection to them.

    You're confusing normal operation with throttling a CPU because of a bad battery.

    1) Yes, that's normal. The processor doesn't run at 100% all the time. It runs at full speed only when it has to to (guess why) preserve battery life.
    2) Okay, see point 1
    3) Okay, see point 1. And, connected to a power source changes nothing as far as CPU speed goes.
    4) Okay, see point 1

    Your phone is operating as normal. Mobile processors aren't binary in speed state - they aren't not running or at full throttle with nothing in between. They have an entire range of speed settings, as you can see in the Geekbench graph peaks, measuring the throttling with 10.2.1.
    Sorry Mike.  I have your words and I have no reason not to believe that you have no connection to Apple.  This point settled until new evidence found in the future.

    Let me give you more information.  I just gave one example. The iPhone 6 Pluses are throttled and got hot, while charging or not-charging.  The processor was not running at 100% while idle? It was running below 60% of performance.  Also, should the CPU speed back up while on demand by an app? or stay slow until restart?  

    Re 3) above, connected to a power source means the power surge will not be affected by an old battery. Hasn't it explained the irrelevancy of a battery issue?  It's NOT the battery, boy.

    Also, Mike, you still didn't address the reasons why Apple avoid to include iPhone 6 Plus.  Find it out.  I'd appreciate your work then.
    3) Nope. When a phone is plugged in, it is still drawing power from the battery and charging the battery at the same time. This is called a float. The battery is providing power to the phone, and the adapter is providing power to the battery.

    You have a profound misunderstanding of how your phone works. And, a similar misunderstanding of how mobile CPU loading works. And, you fail to read what people are telling you about how it works.

    And, like I already said, Apple is including the iPhone 6 Plus. In this article, sixth paragraph in, it even addresses it, which makes me suspect that not only did you not read the responses to your comments, but didn't even read this article and posted because of your agenda.

    I do not seek your appreciation, as you continue to cherry pick your threads, and accuse AppleInsider of working for Apple. You're asking me to prove a negative, which is a logical fallacy. Prove to me you're not a Samsung troll. You can't, can you.

    Discussions are fine. So are disagreements -- but be respectful enough to at least read responses to you. Accusations of working with Apple are not.

    Do not persist. You've been warned.
    edited January 2018
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  • Reply 35 of 52
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,165member
    ivanh said:

    ivanh said:
    Sorry Mike, I know that your intention in writing this article is to help Apple to contain damages. But,
    1. Apple slows down my iPhone 6 Plus (it) from 1400MHz to 936MHz randomly, while no app was running (besides CPU DasherX with which used to show the CPU speed). It was in room temperature, i.e. not in “extremely cold” temperature, but it was getting hot by itself that trigger me to test it.
    2. The iPhone 6 Plus is only 10 months old and the battery condition is 94% as revealed by coconutBattery app when connected to a Mac.
    3. Throttling happens too when the iPhone 6 Plus is attached to a 2.1A Apple original charging source.
    4. All my family members and many friends with iPhone 6 Plus experience speed throttling more severe than iPhone 6s.
    So, all of the battery myth told by Apple and you, fail to give an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled!
    I don't care about "Apple damages." We have no connection to them.

    You're confusing normal operation with throttling a CPU because of a bad battery.

    1) Yes, that's normal. The processor doesn't run at 100% all the time. It runs at full speed only when it has to to (guess why) preserve battery life.
    2) Okay, see point 1
    3) Okay, see point 1. And, connected to a power source changes nothing as far as CPU speed goes.
    4) Okay, see point 1

    Your phone is operating as normal. Mobile processors aren't binary in speed state - they aren't not running or at full throttle with nothing in between. They have an entire range of speed settings, as you can see in the Geekbench graph peaks, measuring the throttling with 10.2.1.
    Sorry Mike.  I have your words and I have no reason not to believe that you have no connection to Apple.  This point settled until new evidence found in the future.
    This is troll dipshittery to the max. 
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  • Reply 36 of 52
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,978member
    ivanh said:

    ivanh said:
    Sorry Mike, I know that your intention in writing this article is to help Apple to contain damages. But,
    1. Apple slows down my iPhone 6 Plus (it) from 1400MHz to 936MHz randomly, while no app was running (besides CPU DasherX with which used to show the CPU speed). It was in room temperature, i.e. not in “extremely cold” temperature, but it was getting hot by itself that trigger me to test it.
    2. The iPhone 6 Plus is only 10 months old and the battery condition is 94% as revealed by coconutBattery app when connected to a Mac.
    3. Throttling happens too when the iPhone 6 Plus is attached to a 2.1A Apple original charging source.
    4. All my family members and many friends with iPhone 6 Plus experience speed throttling more severe than iPhone 6s.
    So, all of the battery myth told by Apple and you, fail to give an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled!
    I don't care about "Apple damages." We have no connection to them.

    You're confusing normal operation with throttling a CPU because of a bad battery.

    1) Yes, that's normal. The processor doesn't run at 100% all the time. It runs at full speed only when it has to to (guess why) preserve battery life.
    2) Okay, see point 1
    3) Okay, see point 1. And, connected to a power source changes nothing as far as CPU speed goes.
    4) Okay, see point 1

    Your phone is operating as normal. Mobile processors aren't binary in speed state - they aren't not running or at full throttle with nothing in between. They have an entire range of speed settings, as you can see in the Geekbench graph peaks, measuring the throttling with 10.2.1.
    Sorry Mike.  I have your words and I have no reason not to believe that you have no connection to Apple.  This point settled until new evidence found in the future.
    This is troll dipshittery to the max. 
    I think he also has black helicopters constantly flying over his house too. 
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  • Reply 37 of 52
    ivanhivanh Posts: 597member

    ivanh said:
    Sorry Mike, I know that your intention in writing this article is to help Apple to contain damages. But,
    1. Apple slows down my iPhone 6 Plus (it) from 1400MHz to 936MHz randomly, while no app was running (besides CPU DasherX with which used to show the CPU speed). It was in room temperature, i.e. not in “extremely cold” temperature, but it was getting hot by itself that trigger me to test it.
    2. The iPhone 6 Plus is only 10 months old and the battery condition is 94% as revealed by coconutBattery app when connected to a Mac.
    3. Throttling happens too when the iPhone 6 Plus is attached to a 2.1A Apple original charging source.
    4. All my family members and many friends with iPhone 6 Plus experience speed throttling more severe than iPhone 6s.
    So, all of the battery myth told by Apple and you, fail to give an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled!
    Being slow isn’t the same as throttling peak power draw. 

    Dunno DasherX but it sounds like an app. 

    Accusing Mike of working for Apple PR reveals you to be cluelessly paranoid. 
    Mike replied and stated that he has no connection to Apple.  I trust him at this stage.  Being paranoid? Maybe, because I lost the chance of taking good pictures at my daughter's graduation ceremony, coincide that my iPhone 6 Plus was throttled down to unusable!  It resumes normal after a few days, after Tim publicly apologised.
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  • Reply 38 of 52
    kevin keekevin kee Posts: 1,289member
    ivanh said:

    ivanh said:
    Sorry Mike, I know that your intention in writing this article is to help Apple to contain damages. But,
    1. Apple slows down my iPhone 6 Plus (it) from 1400MHz to 936MHz randomly, while no app was running (besides CPU DasherX with which used to show the CPU speed). It was in room temperature, i.e. not in “extremely cold” temperature, but it was getting hot by itself that trigger me to test it.
    2. The iPhone 6 Plus is only 10 months old and the battery condition is 94% as revealed by coconutBattery app when connected to a Mac.
    3. Throttling happens too when the iPhone 6 Plus is attached to a 2.1A Apple original charging source.
    4. All my family members and many friends with iPhone 6 Plus experience speed throttling more severe than iPhone 6s.
    So, all of the battery myth told by Apple and you, fail to give an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled!
    Being slow isn’t the same as throttling peak power draw. 

    Dunno DasherX but it sounds like an app. 

    Accusing Mike of working for Apple PR reveals you to be cluelessly paranoid. 
    Mike replied and stated that he has no connection to Apple.  I trust him at this stage.  Being paranoid? Maybe, because I lost the chance of taking good pictures at my daughter's graduation ceremony, coincide that my iPhone 6 Plus was throttled down to unusable!  It resumes normal after a few days, after Tim publicly apologised.
    I do understand your exasperation but there is no point to beat a dead horse. Since it resumed to normal. let it go and get a battery replacement if needed. If Apple didn't have the best intention, they could just let old phone died, they wouldn't spend money and hours to throttle old phones so it could keep going. Blown out of proportion, that's what I kept telling.
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  • Reply 39 of 52
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,917moderator
    ivanh said:

    ivanh said:
    Sorry Mike, I know that your intention in writing this article is to help Apple to contain damages. But,
    1. Apple slows down my iPhone 6 Plus (it) from 1400MHz to 936MHz randomly, while no app was running (besides CPU DasherX with which used to show the CPU speed). It was in room temperature, i.e. not in “extremely cold” temperature, but it was getting hot by itself that trigger me to test it.
    2. The iPhone 6 Plus is only 10 months old and the battery condition is 94% as revealed by coconutBattery app when connected to a Mac.
    3. Throttling happens too when the iPhone 6 Plus is attached to a 2.1A Apple original charging source.
    4. All my family members and many friends with iPhone 6 Plus experience speed throttling more severe than iPhone 6s.
    So, all of the battery myth told by Apple and you, fail to give an explanation why my iPhone 6 Plus has been throttled!
    Being slow isn’t the same as throttling peak power draw. 

    Dunno DasherX but it sounds like an app. 

    Accusing Mike of working for Apple PR reveals you to be cluelessly paranoid. 
    CPU DasherX is an app on iOS App Store.  
    "Being slow" is different from "Being slowed down". I know the difference.  It seems that you are confused.
    I didn't accuse Mike. I am asking Mike to give evidence that he is not!
    Asking someone to provide evidence against a theory of some action or stance equals implying guilt of such.  And that means you are accusing, even though you believe you can weasel out of admitting as much. Just saying.  
    GeorgeBMac
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  • Reply 40 of 52
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,917moderator
    My iPhone 6 likely experienced the throttling due to battery degradation.  But I just turned down the screen brightness, a lot, and it’s working fine again.  Screen brightness seems to be a good dial users can employ until they have time to get in for a battery replacement.  I’m my case, living here in the Philippines with no official Apple stores, I’ve decided to get another month or two out of my three year old 6 and then go get a new iPhone.  Haven’t decided between the 8+ or X; both of which are in stock here at the iStores (a local chain that’s really close in design and professionalism to an actual Apple Store).

    Oh, and great article.  
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