We will still have people blaming Apple for not supporting > 16 GB RAM on the MBP. Yes, Apple could do it with a larger form factor/greatly reduced battery run time. If you really need that much RAM in a laptop, go get yourself something like an Alienware from Dell (prices start at $2300) which weighs 7.69 pounds and gets around 4 hours on battery.
It's inexcusable for Intel to not get its act together to go beyond 16GB on mobile chips. This, and other blunders is why Apple is dumping Intel I think.
In my opinion, 16GB is/should-be the defacto start for "pro" notebooks like the MBP. In my case, I got rid of my 8GB machine simply because of virtual machines. Personally, if Apple offered a 32GB, I would have taken that. 16GB suffices, but I can see myself hitting even that limit. My iMac at home has 64GB in it and I run it to the max for all the various processes.
Macxpress, read the PC reviews on the Dell XPS with the 8th generation processors and you see that both battery life and processing power have increased both on the Intel i-5 and i-7 processors. Your just plan wrong or misinformed.
Intel 8 generation processors for laptops have been on the market since last fall. Its Apple who has decided to stay one and two generations behind. On the PC side all major laptop producers have 8 generation models for sale for months now.
There a many different types of chips released over a long period of time within each “generation”. Xeons might arrive a year after the first low power chips within a line of chipsets. Did you miss the part where these were just announced today?
Apple CPU's will never have the number crunching power of Intels processors. The only advantage Apple will have is extracting better battery life with their CPU's but never better raw power. Intel has been in this business for decades.
"We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone. PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in."
LOl one day the A13, the next day the I9 but Apple has proven incapable of even realising mac models. Years go by and ain't noting happening so hooey with the chip gossip. Time for little timmy cookie and his loser minions to ride out of town! Bring back the Guy and let the good times roll again...
There were 2016 and 2017 MacBook Pros released. This article is about the likely 2018 MacBook Pro. I’m no mathematician but I’m pretty sure we didn’t skip any years in there.
LOl one day the A13, the next day the I9 but Apple has proven incapable of even realising mac models. Years go by and ain't noting happening so hooey with the chip gossip. Time for little timmy cookie and his loser minions to ride out of town! Bring back the Guy and let the good times roll again...
There were 2016 and 2017 MacBook Pros released. This article is about the likely 2018 MacBook Pro. I’m no mathematician but I’m pretty sure we didn’t skip any years in there.
Who is “the Guy”? Jobs? I think he retired.
Some people like to believe the 2016 and 2017 MBPs didn't actually happen. Not sure why, I like mine.
Maybe "the Guy" he's talking about is Guy Kawasaki, but not sure what he thinks Guy would be able to do about it.
LOl one day the A13, the next day the I9 but Apple has proven incapable of even realising mac models. Years go by and ain't noting happening so hooey with the chip gossip. Time for little timmy cookie and his loser minions to ride out of town! Bring back the Guy and let the good times roll again...
There were 2016 and 2017 MacBook Pros released. This article is about the likely 2018 MacBook Pro. I’m no mathematician but I’m pretty sure we didn’t skip any years in there.
Who is “the Guy”? Jobs? I think he retired.
Some people like to believe the 2016 and 2017 MBPs didn't actually happen. Not sure why, I like mine.
Maybe "the Guy" he's talking about is Guy Kawasaki, but not sure what he thinks Guy would be able to do about it.
Talk about how smart and cool he is. I met him at a MacWorld conference and wasn't impressed. Onto the next "guy"...
All gen8 Intel processors now have access to both types (SSD & ram) of Optane memory developed by Intel. I would suspect that Intel will provide an Optane solution for laptops to resolve the 16Gb limit on RAM. In fact the i9 specifically notes that it can access 32Gb RAM in laptop configurations.
Yes, with DDR4 RAM. NOT LPDDR3, and there is no LPDDR4 support at all.
It does make you wonder what is wrong with Intel these days. AMD could easily blow them out of the water with a Ryzen mobile with built in High Bandwidth Memory, I wouold not be surprised at all if AMD delivers something like this before 2019.
As for Intel it does make you wonder where their engineering priorities are. The lack of LPDDR$ memory support is seemingly hard to explain to a 3rd party observer.
Intel 8 generation processors for laptops have been on the market since last fall. Its Apple who has decided to stay one and two generations behind. On the PC side all major laptop producers have 8 generation models for sale for months now. Apple CPU's will never have the number crunching power of Intels processors. The only advantage Apple will have is extracting better battery life with their CPU's but never better raw power. Intel has been in this business for decades.
Why would you say this? Apple has plenty of talent and money to drive processor performance to any level they want. Plus there are industry teams trying to extend ARM to drive high performance computing with one member being Fujitsu. If Apple where to team up with Fujitsu they would end up with a vector processor that makes Alt-Vec look like something from the era of the 6502.
Even in the x86 world Intel hasn't always been in the lead performance wise. AMD has stumbled badly but these days they are far more competitive.
Intel 8 generation processors for laptops have been on the market since last fall. Its Apple who has decided to stay one and two generations behind. On the PC side all major laptop producers have 8 generation models for sale for months now. Apple CPU's will never have the number crunching power of Intels processors. The only advantage Apple will have is extracting better battery life with their CPU's but never better raw power. Intel has been in this business for decades.
If you only get 4hrs of battery life out of a more powerful processor than the power is useless in the end. Honestly, if you're doing so much work on your MacBook Pro that its putting you behind because of the CPU generation then you bought the wrong Mac to begin with. The PC side as always, just cares about specs, not usage. Having the latest and greatest in everything isn't always the best idea.
While I agree to an extent the reality is it becomes very foolish to pay Apple prices for hardware that is extremely dated. In this regard machines like the Mac Mini simply are not worth the price tag Apple has on them.
We will still have people blaming Apple for not supporting > 16 GB RAM on the MBP. Yes, Apple could do it with a larger form factor/greatly reduced battery run time. If you really need that much RAM in a laptop, go get yourself something like an Alienware from Dell (prices start at $2300) which weighs 7.69 pounds and gets around 4 hours on battery.
A Dell XPS 15 also support 32 GB RAM and has s better battery life than the Macbook Pro. (I have both running in my company)
But it still runs Windows....
Or Linux which by the way is very similar to Mac OS. I'm so pissed with Apples Mac Lineup tha tI purchased an HP Envy with the new Ryzen Mobile processor and frankly it is a huge value compared to Apple and even Intel based machines. This machine will likely have one of the Linux distros installed as the primary OS soon, It looks like they wrapped up most of the bugs specific to this machine. Considering how I used the Mac this should work out just as well as a Mac OS based machine and be faster than anythign Apple can deliver at nearly twice the price.
LOl one day the A13, the next day the I9 but Apple has proven incapable of even realising mac models. Years go by and ain't noting happening so hooey with the chip gossip. Time for little timmy cookie and his loser minions to ride out of town! Bring back the Guy and let the good times roll again...
LOl one day the A13, the next day the I9 but Apple has proven incapable of even realising mac models. Years go by and ain't noting happening so hooey with the chip gossip. Time for little timmy cookie and his loser minions to ride out of town! Bring back the Guy and let the good times roll again...
There were 2016 and 2017 MacBook Pros released. This article is about the likely 2018 MacBook Pro. I’m no mathematician but I’m pretty sure we didn’t skip any years in there.
Who is “the Guy”? Jobs? I think he retired.
Some people like to believe the 2016 and 2017 MBPs didn't actually happen. Not sure why, I like mine.
Maybe "the Guy" he's talking about is Guy Kawasaki, but not sure what he thinks Guy would be able to do about it.
Yeah, I thought maybe that was it, but he was a marketing person not a designer or engineer. ¯\(°_o)/¯
LOl one day the A13, the next day the I9 but Apple has proven incapable of even realising mac models. Years go by and ain't noting happening so hooey with the chip gossip. Time for little timmy cookie and his loser minions to ride out of town! Bring back the Guy and let the good times roll again...
There were 2016 and 2017 MacBook Pros released. This article is about the likely 2018 MacBook Pro. I’m no mathematician but I’m pretty sure we didn’t skip any years in there.
Who is “the Guy”? Jobs? I think he retired.
Some people like to believe the 2016 and 2017 MBPs didn't actually happen. Not sure why, I like mine.
Maybe "the Guy" he's talking about is Guy Kawasaki, but not sure what he thinks Guy would be able to do about it.
Yeah, I thought maybe that was it, but he was a marketing person not a designer or engineer. ¯\(°_o)/¯
Exactly. I mean establishing the Evangelist Network was important to the early stages of the Macintosh, but had little to do with building the product. Maybe he thinks he'd be able to get everyone excited about the new MBPs, but it sounds like he thinks there's a more fundamental problem with them than that.
We will still have people blaming Apple for not supporting > 16 GB RAM on the MBP. Yes, Apple could do it with a larger form factor/greatly reduced battery run time. If you really need that much RAM in a laptop, go get yourself something like an Alienware from Dell (prices start at $2300) which weighs 7.69 pounds and gets around 4 hours on battery.
Bingo. No thanks...as a pro I like a lightweight yet very capable machine in my satchel to work on when remote. I won’t come close to making out it’s capabilties as a dev machine.
Macxpress, read the PC reviews on the Dell XPS with the 8th generation processors and you see that both battery life and processing power have increased both on the Intel i-5 and i-7 processors. Your just plan wrong or misinformed.
I can’t say about that, but all I know is every single Dell and HP my enterprise clients have given me to use is a POS compared to my MBPs. The current Dell POS has a SSD yet its fans kickoff like hairdryers throughout the day for no reason. Dell simply doesn’t understand thermal design the way Apple does.
LOl one day the A13, the next day the I9 but Apple has proven incapable of even realising mac models. Years go by and ain't noting happening so hooey with the chip gossip. Time for little timmy cookie and his loser minions to ride out of town! Bring back the Guy and let the good times roll again...
What on earth is that barely comprehensible gibberish supposed to mean?
Yes, the mistake he’s making is actually trying the machine, rather than bleating about it based on stuff he’s read from fellow bleaters who also haven’t tried the machine.
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Oh sorry...they increased to 5hrs. My fault...
"We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone. PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in."
Who is “the Guy”? Jobs? I think he retired.
Some people like to believe the 2016 and 2017 MBPs didn't actually happen. Not sure why, I like mine.
Maybe "the Guy" he's talking about is Guy Kawasaki, but not sure what he thinks Guy would be able to do about it.
As for Intel it does make you wonder where their engineering priorities are. The lack of LPDDR$ memory support is seemingly hard to explain to a 3rd party observer.
Even in the x86 world Intel hasn't always been in the lead performance wise. AMD has stumbled badly but these days they are far more competitive.
Are stoned bots a thing now, on AI forums?
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/11/07/zdziarski-mbp-ram