While I do have some current iPads, my original iPad 1 refuses to quit. It still holds a good charge and is very useful as a document and book reader. Some apps are even still useable.
Besides, Apple has never, ever let you add your own storage, going back to the first generation iPod, despite it being the refrain of a very loud, very small, subset of users. So, why would they start now?
Holding out for SCSI. Come on Apple! We're still waiting! I'd buy a shipping container filled with anything that features sweet, sweet SCSI!
And they had better include a free SCSI chain terminator too or it’s a no sale for me.
They need a x model, no bezel and OLED, what’s the point in buying these when most people only use them for movies, reading, maybe games. They become obsolete to soon with the slow processors for the high price!
I'm still using iPad Air and Mini 2. It ain't close to obsolete. It's 5 years ago. No bezel and OLED on iPad are gimmicks. For iPhone, it makes sense for the rounded corner, curved screen design and smaller form factor. For iPad, these are pretty much overkilled.
I'm still using an iPad Air, and I feel the need to update, but that's because the battery after four and a half years is acting weird, and the lightning port seems to be damaged somehow. The actual system is OK, and runs everything I need it to. I do miss having TouchID, though. Putting in my passcode to unlock it seems so old fashioned.
My brother is using my old iPad 2, which has only one problem - it doesn't recognise the SIM anymore, so it only works on WiFi - but otherwise it's OK. (Oh, and it's stuck on iOS 9, which is also annoying.) Note a single component failure after 7 years doesn't seem so bad.
Besides, Apple has never, ever let you add your own storage, going back to the first generation iPod, despite it being the refrain of a very loud, very small, subset of users. So, why would they start now?
Holding out for SCSI. Come on Apple! We're still waiting! I'd buy a shipping container filled with anything that features sweet, sweet SCSI!
And they had better include a free SCSI chain terminator too or it’s a no sale for me.
They'd terminate it internally, surely? Don't want a second SCSI port ruining their smooth design.
And it had better have the full 50pin Centronics port. Those Honda HD ports bent too easily, not something you want on a portable device.
Besides, Apple has never, ever let you add your own storage, going back to the first generation iPod, despite it being the refrain of a very loud, very small, subset of users. So, why would they start now?
Holding out for SCSI. Come on Apple! We're still waiting! I'd buy a shipping container filled with anything that features sweet, sweet SCSI!
And they had better include a free SCSI chain terminator too or it’s a no sale for me.
They'd terminate it internally, surely? Don't want a second SCSI port ruining their smooth design.
And it had better have the full 50pin Centronics port. Those Honda HD ports bent too easily, not something you want on a portable device.
I'm sure there's a lightning->Centronics adapter somewhere.
Speaking of ports, the smart connector. What inhibited its development? Another great idea that was sort of chucked out there and nothing really comes of it. Not even Apple tried to do anything with it.
Besides, Apple has never, ever let you add your own storage, going back to the first generation iPod, despite it being the refrain of a very loud, very small, subset of users. So, why would they start now?
Holding out for SCSI. Come on Apple! We're still waiting! I'd buy a shipping container filled with anything that features sweet, sweet SCSI!
And they had better include a free SCSI chain terminator too or it’s a no sale for me.
They'd terminate it internally, surely? Don't want a second SCSI port ruining their smooth design.
And it had better have the full 50pin Centronics port. Those Honda HD ports bent too easily, not something you want on a portable device.
I'm sure there's a lightning->Centronics adapter somewhere.
If there isn't, there ought to be. Just don't get the 40 pin one for your PC's Parallel Port.
By 2014 the iPad was becoming less of a marquee product, likely overshadowed by the launch of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, Apple's first iPhones over 4 inches. This was exemplified by the Air 2 -- which mainly gained Touch ID, a triple-core A8X processor, and 2 gigabytes of RAM -- but particularly the Mini 3, which was essentially a Mini 2 with Touch ID.
Laminated display (anti-glare) You missed one major innovation, the laminated display, this not only brought the screen closer to the glass, (also making it easier to make it thinner), but, reduced glare so much it is pretty much anti-glare, a much needed feature, and, one drawback to the 2017/2018 entry-level iPads, all that glare is back again. iPad Air 2 was the first, iPad Mini 4, iPad Pro models followed.
In fact, I have to add, when I got the iPad Mini 4, the first iPad I owned with the laminated screen, it was so nice, I could not put a screen protector on it, a cover, but, not anything directly on the screen, (a first for me). It didn't scratch in the year I owned it.
Not helping themselves in not updating the iPad Mini each year! It would not cost them very much to just add memory and new SoC to the same design. They seem to not real care that their are buyers who what to update their Minis.
The large and regular iPads are great at home or school or office or when riding in the back of a limousine or an Über, but when riding the subway and bus, we need that Mini.
Agreed! ...wouldn't it be nice to have the latest processor and pencil support?
Looking to fend off devices like the Amazon Kindle Fire and Google Nexus 7, Apple simultaneously announced the iPad mini, a tablet with specs similar to the iPad 2 but in a smaller and lighter 7.9-inch format.
Did Apple really roll out the iPad mini as a knee-jerk response to the success (??) of Kindle Fire and Google Nexus 7? Or, was it actually a well thought-out and planned evolution of the iPad portfolio despite whatever misgivings it might have previously had about the smaller size?
The Kindle Fire was released on 28th September, 2011 and the original Google Nexus 7 on July 13, 2012. The first rumour of a smaller iPad was attributed to the Wall Street Journal in February, 2012 where it said Apple was already testing a prototype with potential suppliers. According to The Verge, this was also confirmed by John Gruber in a podcast in April 2012.
It's a bit of a stretch to think that Apple could have conjured up a prototype for testing between 28th September, 2011 and February 2012. Not that it would be a question of resources, just that it would be very un Apple-like to rush out a product in that manner. Also, the iPad mini was not announced at the release of iPad 3 on March 7, 2012, but in October, 2012, with the shipments starting in November 2012.
Apple's collusion with publishers to fight Amazon's dominance of e-books would eventually result in severe legal reprimands.
This is slightly off-topic, but, "collusion"? I thought it was generally the opinion of most people that the DoJ did a hit piece on Apple and that it was Amazon that was the real monopolist in this market.
While I do have some current iPads, my original iPad 1 refuses to quit. It still holds a good charge and is very useful as a document and book reader. Some apps are even still useable.
The original iPad is still going strong in my household too. Of course, it's become more of a purely media consumption device now - mainly because it is a little old for new apps. But the hardware is absolutely up to scratch.
2x iPad Mini 1's and a Mini 4 in our household. Itching to throw money at a Mini 5 if/when it ever arrives (and a mac mini and a 4inch iphone, come on apple)
The article asked: "The future of 2019 and beyond is uncertain."
Nah, Denial sucks... Apple answered that:
Yeh, it still needs a few, relatively minor enhancements (like a cursor) to give it the functional abilities of a "real" computer... But, step by (very slow) step, it's getting there...
They’ll add that SCSI port mentioned upstream before there is ever a cursor on an iPad.
If you want a cursor on a tablet, along with a bloatware all-things-to-all-people OS, Microsoft will set you up. If you think that Apple is moving step-by-step towards making the iPad a (by your apparent definition) “real” computer, you’ve missed the point of the ad you linked. The kid asks “what’s a computer” specifically because the iPad serves her needs without it being a full-fledged notebook device. The girl goes about her day, using the iPad to do iPad things, and the flip out keyboard cover only enhances that. It doesn’t make it anything like a traditional “computer,” though. The point of the ad is that for some people, a powerful tablet is all they need, and a notebook computer would just slow them down. What’s a computer?
They’ll add that SCSI port mentioned upstream before there is ever a cursor on an iPad.
If you want a cursor on a tablet, along with a bloatware all-things-to-all-people OS, Microsoft will set you up. If you think that Apple is moving step-by-step towards making the iPad a (by your apparent definition) “real” computer, you’ve missed the point of the ad you linked. The kid asks “what’s a computer” specifically because the iPad serves her needs without it being a full-fledged notebook device. The girl goes about her day, using the iPad to do iPad things, and the flip out keyboard cover only enhances that. It doesn’t make it anything like a traditional “computer,” though. The point of the ad is that for some people, a powerful tablet is all they need, and a notebook computer would just slow them down. What’s a computer?
Funny... It doesn't look like she's working on a tablet in the last scene. It looks more like a "computer" to me. A real one. Apple didn't get to lead an industry by indulging in half way measures. They don't always have a fully developed product right out of the gate. But they get there. And, despite the screams of fear and anguish from the Mac bigots, they're getting there with the iPad too. Step by step.....
They’ll add that SCSI port mentioned upstream before there is ever a cursor on an iPad.
If you want a cursor on a tablet, along with a bloatware all-things-to-all-people OS, Microsoft will set you up. If you think that Apple is moving step-by-step towards making the iPad a (by your apparent definition) “real” computer, you’ve missed the point of the ad you linked. The kid asks “what’s a computer” specifically because the iPad serves her needs without it being a full-fledged notebook device. The girl goes about her day, using the iPad to do iPad things, and the flip out keyboard cover only enhances that. It doesn’t make it anything like a traditional “computer,” though. The point of the ad is that for some people, a powerful tablet is all they need, and a notebook computer would just slow them down. What’s a computer?
Funny... It doesn't look like she's working on a tablet in the last scene. It looks more like a "computer" to me. A real one. Apple didn't get to lead an industry by indulging in half way measures. They don't always have a fully developed product right out of the gate. But they get there. And, despite the screams of fear and anguish from the Mac bigots, they're getting there with the iPad too. Step by step.....
Your eyes and preconceptions deceive you. Apple didn’t get where they are by building devices that attempt to be all things to all people. That’s why they have an iPad (that uses an OS and UI distinct from notebooks and desktops) that sells well, and Microsoft has a hybrid tablet/notebook (with a bloatware OS that tries to do everything with multiple overlapping UIs) that does not sell well.
Apple had great success in doing what seems after the fact to be an obvious thing of combining a PDA and a cell phone, but they did it by breaking away from the contemporary concepts, rather than step-by-step trying to replicate them. The iPhone was successful because they ditched the stylus required for touch-screen PDAs like Palm, and converting the Blackberry’s physical keyboard into more screen space. They also ditched the MacOS (and PalmOS and Blackberry) cursor-and-menu UI, because that made no sense for a touchscreen device. Had they kept the stylus or the keyboard or the UI, the iPhone would have been no better than the competition and would have gone nowhere. Instead it replaced Palm and Blackberry and spawned a whole new industry of imitators.
Ten years later, and we have Microsoft with Surface notebook/tablets that already do the things that you’re suggesting Apple is moving ‘step-by-step’ toward, yet the Surface is hardly a success. Apple would be foolish to look at that and think, “Ooo. Let’s do that.” So once again, if you want a cursor on your tablet, go buy a Surface, because you’ll be waiting a long time for Apple to make the iPad you think you want.
The keyboard on the iPad in the commercial does not make it more like a “computer.” It just makes it easier to occasionally type on a tablet that has a finger-based touch-screen UI. Also note that the Pencil used for iPads is used for writing and drawing on the screen, but not for interacting with the UI. You can use it to tap on icons if you want, but it’s not required for that and ultimately doesn’t really get used that way. So the girl is asking “what’s a computer” despite the keyboard, not because of it. Her mother is actually the one who represents your outdated perspective, and the final words in the ad are from her daughter, correcting her misperceptions.
While I do have some current iPads, my original iPad 1 refuses to quit. It still holds a good charge and is very useful as a document and book reader. Some apps are even still useable.
Same. I still use mine. Perfectly acceptable for iBooks, e-mail, and some light browsing. The only major complaint I ever had about the 1G iPad was that there was never an after market camera attachment for the 30-pin dock connector. I've yet to read any technical reason why this couldn't be added, so one must assume Apple prevented it, in order to push customers to upgrade to the iPad 2. The one side-benefit to not having a camera is that when I was on a restricted job space which confiscated mobile devices with cameras, I was allowed to keep my iPad -- so, a "feature"? ;-)
Yeh, it still needs a few, relatively minor enhancements (like a cursor) to give it the functional abilities of a "real" computer... But, step by (very slow) step, it's getting there...
I can't say I really need a cursor, but what I would dearly love is some arrow keys on the virtual keyboard. I can't tell you how many times I simply want to go back a few characters and make an edit, but am forced to lift my hand, and navigate to the area I want to edit, then try to squeeze my fat finger into the extant space I need to insert the cursor, inevitably get it wrong, and end up retyping the whole thing anyway, only to then have to lift my finger and move the cursor back to the end of the line. Apple got a lot of things right, but they really should admit when they haven't. The Pencil will change a lot of that in general, but it's moving away from the philosophy that created the device in the first place.
Besides, Apple has never, ever let you add your own storage, going back to the first generation iPod, despite it being the refrain of a very loud, very small, subset of users. So, why would they start now?
Holding out for SCSI. Come on Apple! We're still waiting! I'd buy a shipping container filled with anything that features sweet, sweet SCSI!
And they had better include a free SCSI chain terminator too or it’s a no sale for me.
They'd terminate it internally, surely? Don't want a second SCSI port ruining their smooth design.
How am I supposed to daisy chain iDevices without a second SCSI port?!? Think, McFly!
They’ll add that SCSI port mentioned upstream before there is ever a cursor on an iPad.
If you want a cursor on a tablet, along with a bloatware all-things-to-all-people OS, Microsoft will set you up. If you think that Apple is moving step-by-step towards making the iPad a (by your apparent definition) “real” computer, you’ve missed the point of the ad you linked. The kid asks “what’s a computer” specifically because the iPad serves her needs without it being a full-fledged notebook device. The girl goes about her day, using the iPad to do iPad things, and the flip out keyboard cover only enhances that. It doesn’t make it anything like a traditional “computer,” though. The point of the ad is that for some people, a powerful tablet is all they need, and a notebook computer would just slow them down. What’s a computer?
Funny... It doesn't look like she's working on a tablet in the last scene. It looks more like a "computer" to me. A real one. Apple didn't get to lead an industry by indulging in half way measures. They don't always have a fully developed product right out of the gate. But they get there. And, despite the screams of fear and anguish from the Mac bigots, they're getting there with the iPad too. Step by step.....
Your eyes and preconceptions deceive you. Apple didn’t get where they are by building devices that attempt to be all things to all people. That’s why they have an iPad (that uses an OS and UI distinct from notebooks and desktops) that sells well, and Microsoft has a hybrid tablet/notebook (with a bloatware OS that tries to do everything with multiple overlapping UIs) that does not sell well.
Apple had great success in doing what seems after the fact to be an obvious thing of combining a PDA and a cell phone, but they did it by breaking away from the contemporary concepts, rather than step-by-step trying to replicate them. The iPhone was successful because they ditched the stylus required for touch-screen PDAs like Palm, and converting the Blackberry’s physical keyboard into more screen space. They also ditched the MacOS (and PalmOS and Blackberry) cursor-and-menu UI, because that made no sense for a touchscreen device. Had they kept the stylus or the keyboard or the UI, the iPhone would have been no better than the competition and would have gone nowhere. Instead it replaced Palm and Blackberry and spawned a whole new industry of imitators.
Ten years later, and we have Microsoft with Surface notebook/tablets that already do the things that you’re suggesting Apple is moving ‘step-by-step’ toward, yet the Surface is hardly a success. Apple would be foolish to look at that and think, “Ooo. Let’s do that.” So once again, if you want a cursor on your tablet, go buy a Surface, because you’ll be waiting a long time for Apple to make the iPad you think you want.
The keyboard on the iPad in the commercial does not make it more like a “computer.” It just makes it easier to occasionally type on a tablet that has a finger-based touch-screen UI. Also note that the Pencil used for iPads is used for writing and drawing on the screen, but not for interacting with the UI. You can use it to tap on icons if you want, but it’s not required for that and ultimately doesn’t really get used that way. So the girl is asking “what’s a computer” despite the keyboard, not because of it. Her mother is actually the one who represents your outdated perspective, and the final words in the ad are from her daughter, correcting her misperceptions.
LOL.... Nice argument -- except that it has no basis in reality...
Rather than the dogmatic approach that you set for them, Steve set a standard and enunciated it clearly: Apple makes great products that change people's lives.
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I'm still using an iPad Air, and I feel the need to update, but that's because the battery after four and a half years is acting weird, and the lightning port seems to be damaged somehow. The actual system is OK, and runs everything I need it to. I do miss having TouchID, though. Putting in my passcode to unlock it seems so old fashioned.
My brother is using my old iPad 2, which has only one problem - it doesn't recognise the SIM anymore, so it only works on WiFi - but otherwise it's OK. (Oh, and it's stuck on iOS 9, which is also annoying.) Note a single component failure after 7 years doesn't seem so bad.
They'd terminate it internally, surely? Don't want a second SCSI port ruining their smooth design.
And it had better have the full 50pin Centronics port. Those Honda HD ports bent too easily, not something you want on a portable device.
Another great idea that was sort of chucked out there and nothing really comes of it. Not even Apple tried to do anything with it.
You missed one major innovation, the laminated display, this not only brought the screen closer to the glass, (also making it easier to make it thinner), but, reduced glare so much it is pretty much anti-glare, a much needed feature, and, one drawback to the 2017/2018 entry-level iPads, all that glare is back again. iPad Air 2 was the first, iPad Mini 4, iPad Pro models followed.
In fact, I have to add, when I got the iPad Mini 4, the first iPad I owned with the laminated screen, it was so nice, I could not put a screen protector on it, a cover, but, not anything directly on the screen, (a first for me). It didn't scratch in the year I owned it.
The Kindle Fire was released on 28th September, 2011 and the original Google Nexus 7 on July 13, 2012. The first rumour of a smaller iPad was attributed to the Wall Street Journal in February, 2012 where it said Apple was already testing a prototype with potential suppliers. According to The Verge, this was also confirmed by John Gruber in a podcast in April 2012.
It's a bit of a stretch to think that Apple could have conjured up a prototype for testing between 28th September, 2011 and February 2012. Not that it would be a question of resources, just that it would be very un Apple-like to rush out a product in that manner. Also, the iPad mini was not announced at the release of iPad 3 on March 7, 2012, but in October, 2012, with the shipments starting in November 2012.
This is slightly off-topic, but, "collusion"? I thought it was generally the opinion of most people that the DoJ did a hit piece on Apple and that it was Amazon that was the real monopolist in this market.
The original iPad is still going strong in my household too. Of course, it's become more of a purely media consumption device now - mainly because it is a little old for new apps. But the hardware is absolutely up to scratch.
When the 2022 iPad Pro with bendable screen debuts, I'll upgrade.😉
"The future of 2019 and beyond is uncertain."
Nah, Denial sucks... Apple answered that:
Yeh, it still needs a few, relatively minor enhancements (like a cursor) to give it the functional abilities of a "real" computer... But, step by (very slow) step, it's getting there...
If you want a cursor on a tablet, along with a bloatware all-things-to-all-people OS, Microsoft will set you up. If you think that Apple is moving step-by-step towards making the iPad a (by your apparent definition) “real” computer, you’ve missed the point of the ad you linked. The kid asks “what’s a computer” specifically because the iPad serves her needs without it being a full-fledged notebook device. The girl goes about her day, using the iPad to do iPad things, and the flip out keyboard cover only enhances that. It doesn’t make it anything like a traditional “computer,” though. The point of the ad is that for some people, a powerful tablet is all they need, and a notebook computer would just slow them down. What’s a computer?
Apple didn't get to lead an industry by indulging in half way measures. They don't always have a fully developed product right out of the gate. But they get there. And, despite the screams of fear and anguish from the Mac bigots, they're getting there with the iPad too. Step by step.....
Apple had great success in doing what seems after the fact to be an obvious thing of combining a PDA and a cell phone, but they did it by breaking away from the contemporary concepts, rather than step-by-step trying to replicate them. The iPhone was successful because they ditched the stylus required for touch-screen PDAs like Palm, and converting the Blackberry’s physical keyboard into more screen space. They also ditched the MacOS (and PalmOS and Blackberry) cursor-and-menu UI, because that made no sense for a touchscreen device. Had they kept the stylus or the keyboard or the UI, the iPhone would have been no better than the competition and would have gone nowhere. Instead it replaced Palm and Blackberry and spawned a whole new industry of imitators.
The keyboard on the iPad in the commercial does not make it more like a “computer.” It just makes it easier to occasionally type on a tablet that has a finger-based touch-screen UI. Also note that the Pencil used for iPads is used for writing and drawing on the screen, but not for interacting with the UI. You can use it to tap on icons if you want, but it’s not required for that and ultimately doesn’t really get used that way. So the girl is asking “what’s a computer” despite the keyboard, not because of it. Her mother is actually the one who represents your outdated perspective, and the final words in the ad are from her daughter, correcting her misperceptions.
I can't say I really need a cursor, but what I would dearly love is some arrow keys on the virtual keyboard. I can't tell you how many times I simply want to go back a few characters and make an edit, but am forced to lift my hand, and navigate to the area I want to edit, then try to squeeze my fat finger into the extant space I need to insert the cursor, inevitably get it wrong, and end up retyping the whole thing anyway, only to then have to lift my finger and move the cursor back to the end of the line. Apple got a lot of things right, but they really should admit when they haven't. The Pencil will change a lot of that in general, but it's moving away from the philosophy that created the device in the first place.
Rather than the dogmatic approach that you set for them, Steve set a standard and enunciated it clearly:
Apple makes great products that change people's lives.