European Commission opens 'in-depth' investigation into Apple's acquisition of Shazam

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  • Reply 21 of 28
    seanjseanj Posts: 75member
    BubbaTwo said:
    with the exception of Spotify all of the leading tech companies are based in the U.S. and Asia. 
    Err no they’re not 😂

    • Shazam is based in London, UK.
    • The company Apple bought to acquire the technology behind Siri is based in Cambridge, UK.
    • The company which Apple, Samsung, etc license processor designs from for their mobile processors, namely ARM Holdings, is based in Cambridge, UK.

    And I’m just naming those tech companies that an Apple fan should be aware of...
  • Reply 22 of 28
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 4,676member
    seanj said:
    So Apple (an American company), wants to buy Shazam (a British company), and the EU investigates because Austria, France, Iceland, Italy, Norway, Spain, and Sweden object!

    And people wonder why we Brits voted to leave the wonderful EU... 😏

    Could it be that both Apple and Shazam operate in all those countries as well? 
    If those countries have a concern then a complaint to the EU is correct, so they investigate and see if there are any issues.
    It's no wonder the UK voted to leave when they show such a profound lack of understanding of what and how the EU operates.

    Shazam does not operate in those country, they only make an app that runs on your phone, unless the EU claims running on someone's phone who lives in their country as operating in their country. Not sure what authority they may have.
  • Reply 23 of 28
    SoliSoli Posts: 9,364member
    seanj said:
    BubbaTwo said:
    with the exception of Spotify all of the leading tech companies are based in the U.S. and Asia. 
    Err no they’re not 😂

    • Shazam is based in London, UK.
    • The company Apple bought to acquire the technology behind Siri is based in Cambridge, UK.
    • The company which Apple, Samsung, etc license processor designs from for their mobile processors, namely ARM Holdings, is based in Cambridge, UK.

    And I’m just naming those tech companies that an Apple fan should be aware of…
    Apple bought Isreali company, Anobit, for their flash memory IP. The tech in FaceID is also from an Isreali company, PrimeSense, which I think everyone here knows by name.

    I guess once Apple buys them they're then considered US property, but that would seem like a hinky argument to defend. Here's a long list of Apple acquisitions with country origins noted.

  • Reply 24 of 28
    singularitysingularity Posts: 1,329member
    maestro64 said:
    seanj said:
    So Apple (an American company), wants to buy Shazam (a British company), pand the EU investigates because Austria, France, Iceland, Italy, Norway, Spain, and Sweden object!

    And people wonder why we Brits voted to leave the wonderful EU... 😏

    Could it be that both Apple and Shazam operate in all those countries as well? 
    If those countries have a concern then a complaint to the EU is correct, so they investigate and see if there are any issues.
    It's no wonder the UK voted to leave when they show such a profound lack of understanding of what and how the EU operates.

    Shazam does not operate in those country, they only make an app that runs on your phone, unless the EU claims running on someone's phone who lives in their country as operating in their country. Not sure what authority they may have.
    Of course it operates in those countries. You can download it from that countries app store, it sends you iTunes to buy tracks etc, in those countries. It sells ads etc.
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 25 of 28
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 4,676member
    maestro64 said:
    seanj said:
    So Apple (an American company), wants to buy Shazam (a British company), pand the EU investigates because Austria, France, Iceland, Italy, Norway, Spain, and Sweden object!

    And people wonder why we Brits voted to leave the wonderful EU... 😏

    Could it be that both Apple and Shazam operate in all those countries as well? 
    If those countries have a concern then a complaint to the EU is correct, so they investigate and see if there are any issues.
    It's no wonder the UK voted to leave when they show such a profound lack of understanding of what and how the EU operates.

    Shazam does not operate in those country, they only make an app that runs on your phone, unless the EU claims running on someone's phone who lives in their country as operating in their country. Not sure what authority they may have.
    Of course it operates in those countries. You can download it from that countries app store, it sends you iTunes to buy tracks etc, in those countries. It sells ads etc.

    The app store is owned by App and those App stores do not operate in those countries, they actually operate and sit in an Ireland data center. This is similar to mail order, you can order something from a company and they can ship it anywhere in the world, but does not mean the company operates in the country you live and they ship too. Operate has a very specific business legal definition.
  • Reply 26 of 28
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 4,297member
    seanj said:
    So Apple (an American company), wants to buy Shazam (a British company), and the EU investigates because Austria, France, Iceland, Italy, Norway, Spain, and Sweden object!

    And people wonder why we Brits voted to leave the wonderful EU... 😏

    Could it be that both Apple and Shazam operate in all those countries as well? 
    If those countries have a concern then a complaint to the EU is correct, so they investigate and see if there are any issues.
    It's no wonder the UK voted to leave when they show such a profound lack of understanding of what and how the EU operates.
    It's worth bumping your comment.

    The EU has announced an investigation due to requests from various countries. It is doing its job.

    I can't see how that is any different to any other trading bloc/country.

    Now, we have to sit back and wait for the results of the investigation.
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 27 of 28
    lukeilukei Posts: 333member
    maestro64 said:
    seanj said:
    So Apple (an American company), wants to buy Shazam (a British company), and the EU investigates because Austria, France, Iceland, Italy, Norway, Spain, and Sweden object!

    And people wonder why we Brits voted to leave the wonderful EU... 😏

    Could it be that both Apple and Shazam operate in all those countries as well? 
    If those countries have a concern then a complaint to the EU is correct, so they investigate and see if there are any issues.
    It's no wonder the UK voted to leave when they show such a profound lack of understanding of what and how the EU operates.

    Shazam does not operate in those country, they only make an app that runs on your phone, unless the EU claims running on someone's phone who lives in their country as operating in their country. Not sure what authority they may have.
    Shazam is a UK company. 
  • Reply 28 of 28
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,282member
    maestro64 said:
    maestro64 said:
    seanj said:
    So Apple (an American company), wants to buy Shazam (a British company), pand the EU investigates because Austria, France, Iceland, Italy, Norway, Spain, and Sweden object!

    And people wonder why we Brits voted to leave the wonderful EU... 😏

    Could it be that both Apple and Shazam operate in all those countries as well? 
    If those countries have a concern then a complaint to the EU is correct, so they investigate and see if there are any issues.
    It's no wonder the UK voted to leave when they show such a profound lack of understanding of what and how the EU operates.

    Shazam does not operate in those country, they only make an app that runs on your phone, unless the EU claims running on someone's phone who lives in their country as operating in their country. Not sure what authority they may have.
    Of course it operates in those countries. You can download it from that countries app store, it sends you iTunes to buy tracks etc, in those countries. It sells ads etc.

    The app store is owned by App and those App stores do not operate in those countries, they actually operate and sit in an Ireland data center. This is similar to mail order, you can order something from a company and they can ship it anywhere in the world, but does not mean the company operates in the country you live and they ship too. Operate has a very specific business legal definition.
    I think if Apple has operations in an EU country, ie an Apple Store, it would be considered tax-resident for other Apple services as well. A couple years ago Apple used the "oh, we operate from Ireland" argument to dodge Italian taxes which didn't work out well for them.  
    muthuk_vanalingam
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