Looks good; can’t wait! One thing: the iPhone 4 was 2010. I remember that because the 4s was Keynoted the day after Steve Jobs died in 2011. My buddy then bought one a few weeks later.
Aside from one of those speculative renders you mention—which had small, iPhone X-like bezels and a notch—no rumors ever suggested a notch on the iPad afaik. Instead Apple is camouflaging it by using a notch-sized bezel width (9mm) all the way around. The asset found in iOS 12 did not have a notch, rather it shows a pretty good sized bezel.
If the measurements leaked from Mac Otakara are correct, the bezel is about 9mm all the way around; the notch is 8.93mm so it makes sense.
re: edge to edge, i have no idea why that description is used when the bezel is 9mm—actually growing a couple mm on the long edges for the smaller iPad Pro.
If the measurements leaked from Mac Otakara are correct, the bezel is about 9mm all the way around; the notch is 8.93mm so it makes sense.
re: edge to edge, i have no idea why that description is used when the bezel is 9mm—actually growing a couple mm on the long edges for the smaller iPad Pro.
Wider bezels would seem a backward step.
The TrueDepth camera system for FaceID will be located on the long edge, in order to support landscape unlocking. So at least that edge needs a 9mm bezel. Even with the spurious touch rejection effected through software, the bezel does serve a functional purpose in the iPad form factor. Whether portrait or landscape, they’re held by the edges and without sufficient bezel UX is compromised.
Also, short edges are losing a ton of bezel so taken as a whole, the bezel situation is a big step forward. btw with the 12.9”, the bezel on all four sides shrinks.
Edge to edge display? Has the definition of edge to edge been redefined to mean not edge to edge, but with smaller bezels?i also don’t the know if the one camera design is what we’ll be seeing. I expect the two camera module.
Newsflash: infinity edge pools don’t actually drop off to infinity, nor do their edges extend to infinity, nor does the perception extend to infinity, just to the Earth’s horizon, which is typically 3-12 miles, depending upon how high off the ground the pool is. Not every description must be taken literally.
Aside from one of those speculative renders you mention—which had small, iPhone X-like bezels and a notch—no rumors ever suggested a notch on the iPad afaik. Instead Apple is camouflaging it by using a notch-sized bezel width (9mm) all the way around. The asset found in iOS 12 did not have a notch, rather it shows a pretty good sized bezel.
I remember when the iPad was originally announced and the haters were always saying it was nothing but a big, ol' iPhone and if I remember correctly, it was said in a derogatory sense. Well, now that render even actually looks like a big ol' iPhone, but I'm saying it as a compliment. Let's see who'll be the first critic to complain that there's too much bezel. Some people are always going on about some whiny "too much bezel" rant when it comes to displays.
Edge to edge display? Has the definition of edge to edge been redefined to mean not edge to edge, but with smaller bezels?i also don’t the know if the one camera design is what we’ll be seeing. I expect the two camera module.
Newsflash: infinity edge pools don’t actually drop off to infinity, nor do their edges extend to infinity, nor does the perception extend to infinity, just to the Earth’s horizon, which is typically 3-12 miles, depending upon how high off the ground the pool is. Not every description must be taken literally.
Maybe Horizon Pool would be a better description then but it doesn't mean we need to use edge-to-edge incorrectly too. It's especially short sighted considering we can all imagine what a real edge-to-edge display looks like and it won't be long before we have them.
I await the day when Apple loosens up on the industrial look of iPhones, iPads and Macs, and starts to have fun with the designs again. Remember the original iMacs? And the various designs of iPods? Then things became repetitive and boring,..
Can you give an example of this whimsy?I don’t see what can be done on a modern phone or iPad that’s almost all screen.
I await the day when Apple loosens up on the industrial look of iPhones, iPads and Macs, and starts to have fun with the designs again. Remember the original iMacs? And the various designs of iPods? Then things became repetitive and boring,..
Can you give an example of this whimsy?I don’t see what can be done on a modern phone or iPad that’s almost all screen.
You mean the phone that has yet to ship, has had feature and price changes before ever shipping, and had its launch date continually moved back? Will it even ship this year?
People complained about the price of the original iPhone and continued to complain about the price every year which includes last year's model at a grand, and the Red phone goes well beyond that. I wish them luck, but do you think the features they're pushing at the price they're pushing it at for an Android phone is viable?
These renders are really ugly. I seriously doubt it. Also, it appears we ended up in an era of really boring product design. Minimalism has turned until boring, no-risk product design. I understand there is only so much you can do with phones and tablets (versus something like a desktop) but where is the fun, the bold statements, the magic? It’s comparing a Mazda to a Mitsubishi. Both are fine, mature cars, but boring as hell.
Edit: apologies, did not read the entire thread. Apparently someone else made a similar comparison with cars.
I await the day when Apple loosens up on the industrial look of iPhones, iPads and Macs, and starts to have fun with the designs again. Remember the original iMacs? And the various designs of iPods? Then things became repetitive and boring,..
Smart people just buy shiny colorful cases, if they want veriety. Artistic people can choose from thousands of different designs. Boring and narrow minded people complain about the lack of options.
There are different types (more than just 3 examples above) of people in this world. Which one are you?
I await the day when Apple loosens up on the industrial look of iPhones, iPads and Macs, and starts to have fun with the designs again. Remember the original iMacs? And the various designs of iPods? Then things became repetitive and boring,..
Can you give an example of this whimsy?I don’t see what can be done on a modern phone or iPad that’s almost all screen.
We need an integrated phisical keyboard into iPhones. It is rediculous that Apple hasn’t produced even one phone with the phisical keyboard. That would be such an excitement and surprise! no one would expect that! This is how you innovate!
I await the day when Apple loosens up on the industrial look of iPhones, iPads and Macs, and starts to have fun with the designs again. Remember the original iMacs? And the various designs of iPods? Then things became repetitive and boring,..
Can you give an example of this whimsy?I don’t see what can be done on a modern phone or iPad that’s almost all screen.
We need an integrated phisical keyboard into iPhones. It is rediculous that Apple hasn’t produced even one phone with the phisical keyboard. That would be such an excitement and surprise! no one would expect that! This is how you innovate!
It sure looks like Nokia was having "fun" and being "whimsical" by not doing something "repetitive" simply because it was a way to make a functional device.
These renders are really ugly. I seriously doubt it. Also, it appears we ended up in an era of really boring product design. Minimalism has turned until boring, no-risk product design. I understand there is only so much you can do with phones and tablets (versus something like a desktop) but where is the fun, the bold statements, the magic? It’s comparing a Mazda to a Mitsubishi. Both are fine, mature cars, but boring as hell.
Edit: apologies, did not read the entire thread. Apparently someone else made a similar comparison with cars.
Tablet computers are not cars. Rather than talk about why they aren't fun, can you talk about what you would change, and more importantly, can you convince me why those changes are warranted?
Change in design for the sake of change isn't always a good idea. Hence, while Apple continued to make phones thinner and battery life was recognised as of paramount importance you'll notice at a certain point iPhones stopped getting much thinner. The screaming to stop going thinner was palpable. And I would submit, if you look at how Apple's keyboards are now they have been changed for the sake of thinness, and reliability and user experience have suffered as a result.
Simplicity and minimalism can serve a purpose when you are talking about a tablet computer, which is basically a sheet of glass encasing modern computer internals. No one cries out for a spoon that isn't more fun, for example, because by and large we all recognise spoons work well and changing them would more likely make them worse and not simply different. Yes that's the analogy I'm going with at this point. There is no spoon.
I await the day when Apple loosens up on the industrial look of iPhones, iPads and Macs, and starts to have fun with the designs again. Remember the original iMacs? And the various designs of iPods? Then things became repetitive and boring,..
Can you give an example of this whimsy?I don’t see what can be done on a modern phone or iPad that’s almost all screen.
We need an integrated phisical keyboard into iPhones. It is rediculous that Apple hasn’t produced even one phone with the phisical keyboard. That would be such an excitement and surprise! no one would expect that! This is how you innovate!
If Apple really cared about the environment they would make a wind-up iPhone
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I want to know tech details. The A12X, memory, storage, screen and so on.
With that icon, does iPhone icons show a notch?
Also, short edges are losing a ton of bezel so taken as a whole, the bezel situation is a big step forward. btw with the 12.9”, the bezel on all four sides shrinks.
People complained about the price of the original iPhone and continued to complain about the price every year which includes last year's model at a grand, and the Red phone goes well beyond that. I wish them luck, but do you think the features they're pushing at the price they're pushing it at for an Android phone is viable?
Also, it appears we ended up in an era of really boring product design. Minimalism has turned until boring, no-risk product design. I understand there is only so much you can do with phones and tablets (versus something like a desktop) but where is the fun, the bold statements, the magic? It’s comparing a Mazda to a Mitsubishi. Both are fine, mature cars, but boring as hell.
Edit: apologies, did not read the entire thread. Apparently someone else made a similar comparison with cars.
Artistic people can choose from thousands of different designs.
Boring and narrow minded people complain about the lack of options.
There are different types (more than just 3 examples above) of people in this world.
Which one are you?
That would be such an excitement and surprise!
no one would expect that!
This is how you innovate!
Change in design for the sake of change isn't always a good idea. Hence, while Apple continued to make phones thinner and battery life was recognised as of paramount importance you'll notice at a certain point iPhones stopped getting much thinner. The screaming to stop going thinner was palpable. And I would submit, if you look at how Apple's keyboards are now they have been changed for the sake of thinness, and reliability and user experience have suffered as a result.
Simplicity and minimalism can serve a purpose when you are talking about a tablet computer, which is basically a sheet of glass encasing modern computer internals. No one cries out for a spoon that isn't more fun, for example, because by and large we all recognise spoons work well and changing them would more likely make them worse and not simply different. Yes that's the analogy I'm going with at this point. There is no spoon.
If Apple really cared about the environment they would make a wind-up iPhone
Ha. Good find.