Not a firearm owner, NRA member or any of that, but if an armed guard dropped one of these “young men” and the video was distributed widely in glorious full color 4K HDR, this nonsense would come to a screeching halt.
The kind of people who commit such brazen acts are taking advantage of the society they live in and apparently do not contribute to in any valuable way. Arm the guards, put a man trap in at the entrance and tell the guards to go for a head shot if need be.
Enoigh already. Eventually, someone will get hurt because of these “young men”.
I understand your frustration, but I suspect it would be a PR nightmare for Apple. Can you imagine how quickly Apple’s detractors would jump on this as an opportunity to sell their products? To say nothing of the families involved who would find an ambulance chaser attorney and attempt to sue for an obscene amount of money. Perhaps said lawyer would probably find a way to turn it into a class action lawsuit.
So...no...not a good anti-theft policy for Apple to attempt.
Nonsense. The San Francisco flagship store has armed police guarding the entrance. Have you heard of a smash-and-grab there? No.
Thieves aren't stupid. They are as cowardly as can be. If they knew the guards were armed, they'd think twice about doing it during business-hours.
Just an idea but, Apple could make those devices to only contain a display that is wired to the brains that sit underneath the desks. The wire would be to replace the existing security wire, with the only difference being it delivers a video signal.
The device will have to weigh and feel identical to the original product.
Don't think King Apple hasn't thought through this already. I would bet my bottom dollar that the demo devices do have always on GPS and that the whole take is probably already foiled:)
In a weird way it might actually benefit Apple because it is no loss for them through insurance and it reinforces the perceived premium value of Apple devices to potential customers when they see it on the evening news.
Not a firearm owner, NRA member or any of that, but if an armed guard dropped one of these “young men” and the video was distributed widely in glorious full color 4K HDR, this nonsense would come to a screeching halt.
The kind of people who commit such brazen acts are taking advantage of the society they live in and apparently do not contribute to in any valuable way. Arm the guards, put a man trap in at the entrance and tell the guards to go for a head shot if need be.
Enoigh already. Eventually, someone will get hurt because of these “young men”.
No company would employ armed guards as a response. They are covered by insurance and the likelihood of customers getting hurt increases with firearms. Apple would suffer tremendously if a non-involved customer or bystander was hurt or killed as a result of the actions by their armed guards. I can imagine the headlines.
California needs to prosecute these robbers and any networks that use them to smash and grab.
Not a firearm owner, NRA member or any of that, but if an armed guard dropped one of these “young men” and the video was distributed widely in glorious full color 4K HDR, this nonsense would come to a screeching halt.
The kind of people who commit such brazen acts are taking advantage of the society they live in and apparently do not contribute to in any valuable way. Arm the guards, put a man trap in at the entrance and tell the guards to go for a head shot if need be.
Enoigh already. Eventually, someone will get hurt because of these “young men”.
No company would employ armed guards as a response. They are covered by insurance and the likelihood of customers getting hurt increases with firearms. Apple would suffer tremendously if a non-involved customer or bystander was hurt or killed as a result of the actions by their armed guards. I can imagine the headlines.
California needs to prosecute these robbers and any networks that use them to smash and grab.
The flagship store in San Francisco has armed police officers at the front entrance. Doesn't seem to bother anyone.
I'm not sure what the best solution is but the appearance that Apple is doing nothing to combat these brazen robberies is a green light for thieves to keep doing it. What if next time, a customer(s) gets hurt, injured, or God forbid, killed??? Apple will have to shoulder responsibility. I see a big payout coming soon.
Not a firearm owner, NRA member or any of that, but if an armed guard dropped one of these “young men” and the video was distributed widely in glorious full color 4K HDR, this nonsense would come to a screeching halt.
The kind of people who commit such brazen acts are taking advantage of the society they live in and apparently do not contribute to in any valuable way. Arm the guards, put a man trap in at the entrance and tell the guards to go for a head shot if need be.
Enoigh already. Eventually, someone will get hurt because of these “young men”.
No company would employ armed guards as a response. They are covered by insurance and the likelihood of customers getting hurt increases with firearms. Apple would suffer tremendously if a non-involved customer or bystander was hurt or killed as a result of the actions by their armed guards. I can imagine the headlines.
California needs to prosecute these robbers and any networks that use them to smash and grab.
The flagship store in San Francisco has armed police officers at the front entrance. Doesn't seem to bother anyone.
From what I remember, San Francisco has had a special protection unit for ages. Apple (and other tenants?) in particular areas that recently renovated/updated may have been required to employ this special police force that are trained by SFPD, which also has oversight over the force. It was all part of the prolonged negotiations between the city and Apple which included the ridiculousness over the decrepit fountain in the way of Apple's plan renovations.
Not a firearm owner, NRA member or any of that, but if an armed guard dropped one of these “young men” and the video was distributed widely in glorious full color 4K HDR, this nonsense would come to a screeching halt.
The kind of people who commit such brazen acts are taking advantage of the society they live in and apparently do not contribute to in any valuable way. Arm the guards, put a man trap in at the entrance and tell the guards to go for a head shot if need be.
Enoigh already. Eventually, someone will get hurt because of these “young men”.
No company would employ armed guards as a response. They are covered by insurance and the likelihood of customers getting hurt increases with firearms. Apple would suffer tremendously if a non-involved customer or bystander was hurt or killed as a result of the actions by their armed guards. I can imagine the headlines.
California needs to prosecute these robbers and any networks that use them to smash and grab.
The flagship store in San Francisco has armed police officers at the front entrance. Doesn't seem to bother anyone.
From what I remember, San Francisco has had a special protection unit for ages. Apple (and other tenants?) in particular areas that recently renovated/updated may have been required to employ this special police force that are trained by SFPD, which also has oversight over the force. It was all part of the prolonged negotiations between the city and Apple which included the ridiculousness over the decrepit fountain in the way of Apple's plan renovations.
Not sure about that, but the fact that the SF Flagship store has armed personnel there, it does debunk the anti-gun arguments that people here are trying to make.
Not a firearm owner, NRA member or any of that, but if an armed guard dropped one of these “young men” and the video was distributed widely in glorious full color 4K HDR, this nonsense would come to a screeching halt.
The kind of people who commit such brazen acts are taking advantage of the society they live in and apparently do not contribute to in any valuable way. Arm the guards, put a man trap in at the entrance and tell the guards to go for a head shot if need be.
Enoigh already. Eventually, someone will get hurt because of these “young men”.
No company would employ armed guards as a response. They are covered by insurance and the likelihood of customers getting hurt increases with firearms. Apple would suffer tremendously if a non-involved customer or bystander was hurt or killed as a result of the actions by their armed guards. I can imagine the headlines.
California needs to prosecute these robbers and any networks that use them to smash and grab.
The flagship store in San Francisco has armed police officers at the front entrance. Doesn't seem to bother anyone.
From what I remember, San Francisco has had a special protection unit for ages. Apple (and other tenants?) in particular areas that recently renovated/updated may have been required to employ this special police force that are trained by SFPD, which also has oversight over the force. It was all part of the prolonged negotiations between the city and Apple which included the ridiculousness over the decrepit fountain in the way of Apple's plan renovations.
Not sure about that, but it the fact that the SF Flagship store has armed personnel there, it does debunk the anti-gun arguments that people here are trying to make.
I am sure Apple does NOT want to have armed guards at the entrances. Hence my suggestion of simply hiring plainclothes off duty police to sit outside the store entrance area drinking coffee or whatever.
Clearly many of the people posting have no idea what insurance is. Apple most certainly is self-insured for such product loses. In fact most retailers are so they employ security and other measures to reduce "shrinkage". Insurance is for monetary losses one can not otherwise afford, this doesn't apply to Apple losing some of its display products that it wouldn't sell at full retail prices anyway.
Not a firearm owner, NRA member or any of that, but if an armed guard dropped one of these “young men” and the video was distributed widely in glorious full color 4K HDR, this nonsense would come to a screeching halt.
From Hollywood's handbook on publicity: "There is no such thing as bad publicity".
You never read about thieves stealing Androids devices. Samsung spends many millions advertising its Android devices, and still has to lower prices to move them.
Apple may lose a Million dollars worth of equipment throughout the year, but they get publicity worth much, much more, most importantly "iPhones are so desirable gangs stage mass thefts to get them".
I always forget this, but you're absolutely right. this is cheap advertising! with the best message "EVERYONE WANTS APPLE PRODUCTS - THEY'RE VALUABLE!"
sad as it is
What the heck is going on in California? I live here in NYC, and that never happens at the Apple stores here. The security at NYC Apple stores is very obvious. They look like ex military actually. At least two of them at the front door and more downstairs. I don’t know what kind of security they have at the California Apple stores, but i doubt it’s like here in NYC. Apple is a Trillion dollar company. You’d think they’d be able to hire top notch security at ALL their stores. I don’t get it.
This can only happen in this liberal to crime country. In 3rd world, you will get caught by customers in store and than everyone will beat the hell out of those thieves teaching them to never try again. It works.
I'd like to see it taken further with Apple secretly removing features not needed for a demo, like an always-on GPS so that any device stolen from a store can be tracked even if the thieves turn off the devices.
O yes, like those thieves care about features existing and removed. They look for money from sale of those devices. Thieves do not care about being cool like yourself. They need money and I will not mention here for what as to keep courtesy.
“Being cool like yourself” — ? What the hell is wrong with you?
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The device will have to weigh and feel identical to the original product.
Clearly many of the people posting have no idea what insurance is. Apple most certainly is self-insured for such product loses. In fact most retailers are so they employ security and other measures to reduce "shrinkage". Insurance is for monetary losses one can not otherwise afford, this doesn't apply to Apple losing some of its display products that it wouldn't sell at full retail prices anyway.