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  • Reply 61 of 187
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:

    Seth2015 said:
    @tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.

    Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.  
    Huawei...BANNED.  Sorry.  They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party.  Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business.  Oh wait...they support terrorist nations.  Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
    Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.

    Check out Amazon US.

    There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.

    I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.




    Banned from government jobs, telecommunication offices, military etc.  and that is just USA. 

    BANNED. 
    That is what you should have said, then. However, you didn't. You just threw a blanket 'BANNED' over everything.

    The fact remains, you can pick up any Huawei handset in the US with zero commercial restrictions.

    It is something completely different when your employer (be it the government or not) places its own restrictions.

    How is it possible that Huawei handsets can be sold legally throughout the US when they are 'banned'?
    Sorry, no one is stupid enough to buy a phone from a company that illegally support terrorist states AND been banned from many countries for spying and stealing IPs. 

    You and Seth kid prove me wrong. There are such folks in the world.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 62 of 187
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,592member
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:

    Seth2015 said:
    @tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.

    Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.  
    Huawei...BANNED.  Sorry.  They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party.  Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business.  Oh wait...they support terrorist nations.  Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
    Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.

    Check out Amazon US.

    There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.

    I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.




    Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%?  Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN?  The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!  

    You our want to keep defending Huawei?  If so, then you’re pathetic. 
    Honest answer: I support facts.


    The facts are the Huawei and ZTE resold U.S. technology into Iran at a time that Iran was sanctioned. ZTE has already paid for their mistake.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/us-probe-into-huawei-includes-accusations-of-bank-fraud-and-sanctions-violations-reuters.html
    So, off with her head then! LOL. Why bother with the paperwork!

    An accusation is just that, an accusation.

    The fact is that there is nothing proven until the case is heard. Painting an accusation as proof of guilt is more than a little worrying.

    In the case of ZTE, they accepted the situation. As of today, that isn't the case of Huawei. The fact is they have denied the accusations.

    You are getting ahead of yourself. Let's repond to facts as they are presented, not beforehand.


    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 63 of 187
    I feel that Apple chips have so much overhead and power to facilitate Apple As A Service for future growth of the company. Even if users retain the phones longer or the phones are sold second hand or at a discount a year or two later, buyers can be assured that the phones  will still work and provide those specific Apple features for several more years. The more people with Apple products, the bigger and faster Apple Services grows. The advanced hardware capabilities provide better user experience. 

    Apple sells the whole package specifically tuned to the hardware which works seamlessly together with the software and services. Qualcomm just sells engines. The specs are there but the real world performance depends on the cellphone manufacturers. 

    Just my humble opinion. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 64 of 187
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:

    Seth2015 said:
    @tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.

    Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.  
    Huawei...BANNED.  Sorry.  They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party.  Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business.  Oh wait...they support terrorist nations.  Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
    Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.

    Check out Amazon US.

    There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.

    I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.




    Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%?  Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN?  The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!  

    You our want to keep defending Huawei?  If so, then you’re pathetic. 
    Honest answer: I support facts.


    The facts are the Huawei and ZTE resold U.S. technology into Iran at a time that Iran was sanctioned. ZTE has already paid for their mistake.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/us-probe-into-huawei-includes-accusations-of-bank-fraud-and-sanctions-violations-reuters.html
    So, off with her head then! LOL. Why bother with the paperwork!

    An accusation is just that, an accusation.

    The fact is that there is nothing proven until the case is heard. Painting an accusation as proof of guilt is more than a little worrying.

    In the case of ZTE, they accepted the situation. As of today, that isn't the case of Huawei. The fact is they have denied the accusations.

    You are getting ahead of yourself. Let's repond to facts as they are presented, not beforehand.


    Yeah USA arresting the CFO in Canada by Canadian authorities and then transporting her to USA and literally creating international crisis was all done without any proof....

    seriously, stop acting like a fool man.  
    edited December 2018 watto_cobra
  • Reply 65 of 187
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,592member
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:

    Seth2015 said:
    @tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.

    Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.  
    Huawei...BANNED.  Sorry.  They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party.  Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business.  Oh wait...they support terrorist nations.  Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
    Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.

    Check out Amazon US.

    There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.

    I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.




    Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%?  Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN?  The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!  

    You our want to keep defending Huawei?  If so, then you’re pathetic. 
    Honest answer: I support facts.


    The facts are the Huawei and ZTE resold U.S. technology into Iran at a time that Iran was sanctioned. ZTE has already paid for their mistake.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/us-probe-into-huawei-includes-accusations-of-bank-fraud-and-sanctions-violations-reuters.html
    So, off with her head then! LOL. Why bother with the paperwork!

    An accusation is just that, an accusation.

    The fact is that there is nothing proven until the case is heard. Painting an accusation as proof of guilt is more than a little worrying.

    In the case of ZTE, they accepted the situation. As of today, that isn't the case of Huawei. The fact is they have denied the accusations.

    You are getting ahead of yourself. Let's repond to facts as they are presented, not beforehand.


    Yeah USA arresting the CFO in Canada by Canadian authorities and then transporting her to USA and literally creating international crisis was all done without any proof....

    seriously, stop acting like a fool man.  
    What? She's not having a stopover in Guantanamo first?

    Please try to understand what is happening. First, there is the request for extradition to be resolved before any 'transporting' to the US?

    There is a thread specifically on this issue right here on AI, why not take this aspect over there if you want to continue?
    edited December 2018 muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 66 of 187
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:

    Seth2015 said:
    @tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.

    Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.  
    Huawei...BANNED.  Sorry.  They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party.  Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business.  Oh wait...they support terrorist nations.  Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
    Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.

    Check out Amazon US.

    There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.

    I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.




    Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%?  Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN?  The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!  

    You our want to keep defending Huawei?  If so, then you’re pathetic. 
    Honest answer: I support facts.


    The facts are the Huawei and ZTE resold U.S. technology into Iran at a time that Iran was sanctioned. ZTE has already paid for their mistake.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/us-probe-into-huawei-includes-accusations-of-bank-fraud-and-sanctions-violations-reuters.html
    So, off with her head then! LOL. Why bother with the paperwork!

    An accusation is just that, an accusation.

    The fact is that there is nothing proven until the case is heard. Painting an accusation as proof of guilt is more than a little worrying.

    In the case of ZTE, they accepted the situation. As of today, that isn't the case of Huawei. The fact is they have denied the accusations.

    You are getting ahead of yourself. Let's repond to facts as they are presented, not beforehand.


    Yeah USA arresting the CFO in Canada by Canadian authorities and then transporting her to USA and literally creating international crisis was all done without any proof....

    seriously, stop acting like a fool man.  
    What? She's not having a stopover in Guantanamo first?

    Please try to understand what is happening. First, there is the request for extradition to be resolved before any 'transporting' to the US?

    There is a thread specifically on this issue right here on AI, why not take this aspect over there if you want to continue?
    So, Canadian officials arrested her for no reason?  They just want to piss of China?  Who asked Canada to arrest her?  Again, you think that Huawei is innocent??  LOL
    edited December 2018 racerhomie3watto_cobra
  • Reply 67 of 187
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,592member
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:

    Seth2015 said:
    @tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.

    Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.  
    Huawei...BANNED.  Sorry.  They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party.  Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business.  Oh wait...they support terrorist nations.  Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
    Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.

    Check out Amazon US.

    There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.

    I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.




    Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%?  Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN?  The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!  

    You our want to keep defending Huawei?  If so, then you’re pathetic. 
    Honest answer: I support facts.


    The facts are the Huawei and ZTE resold U.S. technology into Iran at a time that Iran was sanctioned. ZTE has already paid for their mistake.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/us-probe-into-huawei-includes-accusations-of-bank-fraud-and-sanctions-violations-reuters.html
    So, off with her head then! LOL. Why bother with the paperwork!

    An accusation is just that, an accusation.

    The fact is that there is nothing proven until the case is heard. Painting an accusation as proof of guilt is more than a little worrying.

    In the case of ZTE, they accepted the situation. As of today, that isn't the case of Huawei. The fact is they have denied the accusations.

    You are getting ahead of yourself. Let's repond to facts as they are presented, not beforehand.


    Yeah USA arresting the CFO in Canada by Canadian authorities and then transporting her to USA and literally creating international crisis was all done without any proof....

    seriously, stop acting like a fool man.  
    What? She's not having a stopover in Guantanamo first?

    Please try to understand what is happening. First, there is the request for extradition to be resolved before any 'transporting' to the US?

    There is a thread specifically on this issue right here on AI, why not take this aspect over there if you want to continue?
    So, Canadian officials arrested her for no reason?  They just want to piss of China?  Who asked Canada to arrest her?  Again, you think that Huawei is innocent??  LOL
    I don't know if she was cherry picked or if an alert popped up on a screen due to boarding pass or passport control. Either way there was a reason.

    The Canadians are applying protocol. It would be crazy to do otherwise. Move this debate to the other thread, this one is on QC.
  • Reply 68 of 187
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:

    Seth2015 said:
    @tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.

    Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.  
    Huawei...BANNED.  Sorry.  They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party.  Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business.  Oh wait...they support terrorist nations.  Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
    Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.

    Check out Amazon US.

    There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.

    I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.




    Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%?  Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN?  The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!  

    You our want to keep defending Huawei?  If so, then you’re pathetic. 
    Honest answer: I support facts.


    The facts are the Huawei and ZTE resold U.S. technology into Iran at a time that Iran was sanctioned. ZTE has already paid for their mistake.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/us-probe-into-huawei-includes-accusations-of-bank-fraud-and-sanctions-violations-reuters.html
    So, off with her head then! LOL. Why bother with the paperwork!

    An accusation is just that, an accusation.

    The fact is that there is nothing proven until the case is heard. Painting an accusation as proof of guilt is more than a little worrying.

    In the case of ZTE, they accepted the situation. As of today, that isn't the case of Huawei. The fact is they have denied the accusations.

    You are getting ahead of yourself. Let's repond to facts as they are presented, not beforehand.


    Yeah USA arresting the CFO in Canada by Canadian authorities and then transporting her to USA and literally creating international crisis was all done without any proof....

    seriously, stop acting like a fool man.  
    What? She's not having a stopover in Guantanamo first?

    Please try to understand what is happening. First, there is the request for extradition to be resolved before any 'transporting' to the US?

    There is a thread specifically on this issue right here on AI, why not take this aspect over there if you want to continue?
    So, Canadian officials arrested her for no reason?  They just want to piss of China?  Who asked Canada to arrest her?  Again, you think that Huawei is innocent??  LOL
    I don't know if she was cherry picked or if an alert popped up on a screen due to boarding pass or passport control. Either way there was a reason.

    The Canadians are applying protocol. It would be crazy to do otherwise. Move this debate to the other thread, this one is on QC.
    Yeah, it must have been about her boarding pass....LOL
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 69 of 187
    canukstormcanukstorm Posts: 2,689member
    The new A12 bionic is definitely killing Qualcomm. 

    Buuuuut....you average user has no idea what processor they have. My friend is a store manager for AT&T and he says most people rarely convert from Android to iOS anymore, and most don't know the difference between the new model and old model other than cosmetic changes or new features (the processor not being one of them).

    I mean the iPhone Max is a beast. Definitely the fastest phone on the market. But speed isn't everything. Some people just enjoy Android over iOS.
    "Some people just enjoy Android over iOS."

    At the end of the day, that's what it boils down to.  In a mature market, spec sheets don't hold the importance they once did, at least to the mainstream user.
  • Reply 70 of 187
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,293member
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:

    Seth2015 said:
    @tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.

    Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.  
    Huawei...BANNED.  Sorry.  They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party.  Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business.  Oh wait...they support terrorist nations.  Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
    Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.

    Check out Amazon US.

    There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.

    I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.




    Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%?  Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN?  The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!  

    You our want to keep defending Huawei?  If so, then you’re pathetic. 
    Honest answer: I support facts.


    The facts are the Huawei and ZTE resold U.S. technology into Iran at a time that Iran was sanctioned. ZTE has already paid for their mistake.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/us-probe-into-huawei-includes-accusations-of-bank-fraud-and-sanctions-violations-reuters.html
    So, off with her head then! LOL. Why bother with the paperwork!

    An accusation is just that, an accusation.

    The fact is that there is nothing proven until the case is heard. Painting an accusation as proof of guilt is more than a little worrying.

    In the case of ZTE, they accepted the situation. As of today, that isn't the case of Huawei. The fact is they have denied the accusations.

    You are getting ahead of yourself. Let's repond to facts as they are presented, not beforehand.


    Yeah USA arresting the CFO in Canada by Canadian authorities and then transporting her to USA and literally creating international crisis was all done without any proof....

    seriously, stop acting like a fool man.  
    What? She's not having a stopover in Guantanamo first?

    Please try to understand what is happening. First, there is the request for extradition to be resolved before any 'transporting' to the US?

    There is a thread specifically on this issue right here on AI, why not take this aspect over there if you want to continue?
    So, Canadian officials arrested her for no reason?  They just want to piss of China?  Who asked Canada to arrest her?  Again, you think that Huawei is innocent??  LOL
    I don't know if she was cherry picked or if an alert popped up on a screen due to boarding pass or passport control. Either way there was a reason.

    The Canadians are applying protocol. It would be crazy to do otherwise. Move this debate to the other thread, this one is on QC.
    Likely that Foreign Nationals are tracked constantly, but she would have stood out as a priority target.

    The real question is "why now", and I would surmise that the Trump Administration is making a point about stolen IP, that was redirected to Iran via business machinations by Huawei.

    It might be that she hasn't traveled through Canada or the U.S. until now, making this arrest possible.
    edited December 2018 Madtigerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 71 of 187
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,592member
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:

    Seth2015 said:
    @tmay People use different devices. I have both an iPhone X (standby phone every 2 weeks) and Huawei. You want a real world opinion? You can't see the difference in speed in actual using the phones. There's no jitter or judder, despite what Strangedays thinks he knows.

    Anyhow - but based on the comments here slating Androids, it'd be interesting to see which the people have used (or even read about;). There's a great world out there of mobile phones! @Madtiger wasn't even aware that Huawei phones be bought anywhere in the world - yet they're the second largest manufacture behind Samsung? So, it's very interesting how he (and others) can be that opinionated on something he has zero idea about.  
    Huawei...BANNED.  Sorry.  They sell a lot in countries where it is not banned or thru 3rd party.  Oh look, its CFO got arrested...must be because they do honest business.  Oh wait...they support terrorist nations.  Good job there kid for supporting Huawei.
    Huawei handsets have not been banned. Much less 'BANNED'.

    Check out Amazon US.

    There are limitations on use in some areas (US military personnel for example) but that is applicable to many brands all over the world.

    I've known people in the 'intelligence' realm who can fly using civil aviation but not use aeroflot. The are restrictions for people in certain jobs.




    Honest Q...you support Huawei 100%?  Even though they are sending OUR technology to IRAN?  The country that literally produces some of the worst terrorist networks and are responsible for killing your so many countrymen and our soldiers???!!!!  

    You our want to keep defending Huawei?  If so, then you’re pathetic. 
    Honest answer: I support facts.


    The facts are the Huawei and ZTE resold U.S. technology into Iran at a time that Iran was sanctioned. ZTE has already paid for their mistake.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/us-probe-into-huawei-includes-accusations-of-bank-fraud-and-sanctions-violations-reuters.html
    So, off with her head then! LOL. Why bother with the paperwork!

    An accusation is just that, an accusation.

    The fact is that there is nothing proven until the case is heard. Painting an accusation as proof of guilt is more than a little worrying.

    In the case of ZTE, they accepted the situation. As of today, that isn't the case of Huawei. The fact is they have denied the accusations.

    You are getting ahead of yourself. Let's repond to facts as they are presented, not beforehand.


    Yeah USA arresting the CFO in Canada by Canadian authorities and then transporting her to USA and literally creating international crisis was all done without any proof....

    seriously, stop acting like a fool man.  
    What? She's not having a stopover in Guantanamo first?

    Please try to understand what is happening. First, there is the request for extradition to be resolved before any 'transporting' to the US?

    There is a thread specifically on this issue right here on AI, why not take this aspect over there if you want to continue?
    So, Canadian officials arrested her for no reason?  They just want to piss of China?  Who asked Canada to arrest her?  Again, you think that Huawei is innocent??  LOL
    I don't know if she was cherry picked or if an alert popped up on a screen due to boarding pass or passport control. Either way there was a reason.

    The Canadians are applying protocol. It would be crazy to do otherwise. Move this debate to the other thread, this one is on QC.
    Likely that Foreign Nationals are tracked constantly, but she would have stood out as a priority target.

    The real question is "why now", and I would surmise that the Trump Administration is making a point about stolen IP, that was redirected to Iran via business machinations by Huawei.

    It might be that she hasn't traveled through Canada or the U.S. until now, making this arrest possible.
    That's a realistic stab, I think.

    Over the last few hours it has become clear she was cherry picked. As soon as she presented her passport she was arrested. Both the US and Canadian governments knew beforehand that she would be detained
    muthuk_vanalingam
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    Oh look Japan is readying to ban Huawei and ZTE over spying concerns. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 73 of 187
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,592member
    Madtiger said:
    Oh look Japan is readying to ban Huawei and ZTE over spying concerns. 
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-06/huawei-bust-signals-the-real-u-s-trade-war-with-china

    Spying has little to do with anything. Everybody will try to spy on everyone else, just like they always have. This is about competition.
  • Reply 74 of 187
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    Oh look Japan is readying to ban Huawei and ZTE over spying concerns. 
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-06/huawei-bust-signals-the-real-u-s-trade-war-with-china

    Spying has little to do with anything. Everybody will try to spy on everyone else, just like they always have. This is about competition.
    Nope.  Japan is set to effectively ban government purchases of telecommunications products from China’s Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and ZTE Corp over fears of intelligence leaks and cyber attacks, the Yomiuri newspaper reported on Friday.  In addition, Australia and New Zealand have blocked Huawei from building 5G networks, while Britain’s BT Group said on Wednesday it was removing Huawei’s equipment from the core of its existing 3G and 4G mobile operations.

    Over the past couple of years, Huawei has reportedly circumvented sanctions imposed on North Korea and Iran, providing the countries with telecom equipment that can be used for extensive spying on populations, so-called dual use technologies.

    Last month, senior German officials said they are planning a last-ditch drive to convince the government to consider excluding Chinese firms such as Huawei from building the country's 5G infrastructure.

    "There is serious concern. If it were up to me we would do what the Australians are doing," one official told Reuters news agency.



    LOL...more and more countries are now banning Huawei crap.
    edited December 2018 tmaywatto_cobra
  • Reply 75 of 187
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,075member
    Witbe said:
    Qualcomm has done a wonderful job. I totally sense why this article is written. I am eagarly waiting for new devices with snapdragon 855. Would like to see comparison with iphone XS.
    Definitely will do those comparisons. Subscribe to us on YouTube so you don't miss them. 
    I really like your video comparison.   One of the best parts of AI.
  • Reply 76 of 187
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,075member
    Seth2015 said:
    I think Apple need to start spending money elsewhere, tbh.

    They have this amazing fast chip - but lack on everything else?

    Maybe beef up that camera ... or a larger battery ... or change the charging system ... up the screen resolutions ... do something! In real world user experience, there's little between the A11/A12 and the flagship Androids. 


    I would really love to see Apple switch to Solid State Batteries.    Hopefully this would 1. enable both much longer battery time and thinner lighter phones.    A move to solid state batteries ahead of the android crowd would be a real phone-switch-motivator and would be one of the few things to justify the greater than $1,000 price of the iPhoneXs.
  • Reply 77 of 187
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,075member
    The processors have been the single greatest advantage of IOS devices over Android, and most likely soon to be the greatest advantage of Macs over Windows given Intel is now starting to fall short.

    Just think if next years MacBook Pro had 2 A12X processors, it would have better battery life, and be faster than the current Gen, of course the updates to Mac OS need to happen for that, and I'm not expecting it to be that soon, as well as there is still a chance that Intel will be able to improve a lot with 10 nm processors.
    I've gotten to the point that Intel should try switching to 12 nm if they can't make 10 nm in volume.    They need to do something.    I'm not buy another 14 nm chip based computer no matter how many "optimizations" it is supposed to have.
  • Reply 78 of 187
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,075member
    Seth2015 said:
    That's a better argument ... Thanks strangedays.

    You don't think maybe they could spend some money on a better? Maybe something that lasts a little longer? iPhone batteries die pretty early in in any very tests. 

    On the screen - from the outside, it looks like iPhone XR is running a screen from 2013. It can't do FullHD - you reckon this is all the eye can see? There is no need for anything higher?
    In my book the iphone 7plus and 8plus have better screens because of the higher pixel density.   Giving the average screen a new name doesn't make it better.
    muthuk_vanalingam
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    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,592member
    Madtiger said:
    avon b7 said:
    Madtiger said:
    Oh look Japan is readying to ban Huawei and ZTE over spying concerns. 
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-06/huawei-bust-signals-the-real-u-s-trade-war-with-china

    Spying has little to do with anything. Everybody will try to spy on everyone else, just like they always have. This is about competition.
    Nope.  Japan is set to effectively ban government purchases of telecommunications products from China’s Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and ZTE Corp over fears of intelligence leaks and cyber attacks, the Yomiuri newspaper reported on Friday.  In addition, Australia and New Zealand have blocked Huawei from building 5G networks, while Britain’s BT Group said on Wednesday it was removing Huawei’s equipment from the core of its existing 3G and 4G mobile operations.

    Over the past couple of years, Huawei has reportedly circumvented sanctions imposed on North Korea and Iran, providing the countries with telecom equipment that can be used for extensive spying on populations, so-called dual use technologies.

    Last month, senior German officials said they are planning a last-ditch drive to convince the government to consider excluding Chinese firms such as Huawei from building the country's 5G infrastructure.

    "There is serious concern. If it were up to me we would do what the Australians are doing," one official told Reuters news agency.



    LOL...more and more countries are now banning Huawei crap.
    Fears, not facts.

    There are people in the US government that are 'scared' (I'm quoting literally) of Huawei.

    The US is pressuring its allies to stop Huawei on the grounds of 'security fears' that have been denied by Huawei and are literally unsupported by any facts.

    The irony is that those 'allies' have already caught the NSA spying on them on numerous occasions. 

    Security has little to do with reality in this case (Huawei). What the US is trying to do is not be relegated on a technological level and having someone like Huawei running a large part of the world's communications backbone strikes fear into some people.
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    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,075member
    samno said:
    Seth2015 said:
    I think Apple need to start spending money elsewhere, tbh.

    They have this amazing fast chip - but lack on everything else?

    Maybe beef up that camera ... or a larger battery ... or change the charging system ... up the screen resolutions ... do something! In real world user experience, there's little between the A11/A12 and the flagship Androids. 


    buy Tesla and shake the damn GMs, Audi, BMWs of the world
    Apple is one of the few companies that could release an electric car now and really take on Tesla and the ICE manufacturers.    But they do need to do it within the next few years. Driving down the price of batteries via volume manufacturing is essential.    Of course Apple could buy an established manufacturer but then they might get stuck with a dealer network.
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