So like you can see the one a year behind and the one destroyed by an a year old GPU is the apple A12 bionic. I dont know if you but I have both right now in my hands.
On the CPU the A12 bionic is faster but on the GPU dont even dream with that.
3D Mark has a bug in it that causes crashes unless iPhone was warm. So, the score is off. In other GPU testings, A12 spanks S845 by a wide margin. In fact, it is likely that A12 will still lead in GPU over the S855.
We know that 855 CPU will be 2 years behind Apple. We agree on that.
GPU...20% faster than 845. We agree. So let’s see how much faster A12 is over 845.
To quote Anandtech:
“In terms of sustained performance, the figures quickly reduce after a few minutes and stabilise further down the road. Here, the iPhone XS outperforms the iPhone X by 61%. The Apple A12 is also able to beat the current leader, the Snapdragon 845 inside the OnePlus 6, by 45% in sustained performance.
...the iPhone XS and XS Maxi, thanks to the new A12 SoC, showcase industry leading performance and efficiency, and currently are the best mobile platforms for gaming, period.”
Anything else i need to educate your ignorant arse on? LOL
Anandtech: “The contrast to the best Android SoCs have to offer is extremely stark – both in terms of performance as well as in power efficiency. Apple’s SoCs have better energy efficiency than all recent Android SoCs while having a nearly 2x performance advantage. I wouldn’t be surprised that if we were to normalise for energy used, Apple would have a 3x performance lead. (3X performance!!!!! 3x!!! THREE TIMES!!!!)
The Apple A12 is a beast of a SoC. While the A11 already bested the competition in terms of performance and power efficiency, the A12 doubles down on it in this regard, thanks to Apple’s world-class design teams which were able to squeeze out even more out of their CPU microarchitectures. The Vortex CPU’s memory subsystem saw an enormous boost, which grants the A12 a significant performance boost in a lot of workloads.
On the GPU side, Apple’s measured performance gains are also within the promised figures, and even above that when it comes to sustained performance. The new GPU looks like an iteration on last year’s design, but an added fourth core as well as the important introduction of GPU memory compression are able to increase the performance to new levels.”
Yeah, i love to go there! Can you keep up? LOL
BTW, since you love Antutu so much, you do realize that Antutu can be cheated on (like Huawei and Samsung have done repeatedly!). Secondly, Antutu CPU test is pathetically basic...it is far from testing the actual CPU performance. Per Anandtech: "AnTuTu’s CPU test falls among these as its footprint is also tiny and not testing anything beyond the execution engines and the first level cache hierarchy."
And this is why Antutu is not used by major reviewers...too easily to cheat and the score is not exactly real-world based. Nice score sure...but SPEC2006 is far better. So, let's see how S855/8150 can do on SPEC2006. Until then, YOU JUST GOT OWNED.
Dude stop lying. iPhone X max?? That must be limited edition! Lol
Read Anandtech review.
So, you think that S845 GPU is better than A12?!?!
you think that? Really?!
Does Fortnite officially run at 60 FPS on your s9+? Mine does.
did you know why fortnite do not run at 60 fps on android hahahha the same developer told that the problems is not the performance, the problems is the different version of android. each OM have diferent optimization and diferent memory managment and thats why.
read first and try the next time.
Blah blah...sorry excuses. XS and XR runs at 60 FPS. Samsung, which has exclusive agreement with Fortnite, runs at 30 FPS at best.
Huawei did promise that Kirin will beat A12 this year...but like most things from Huawei, that promise is just full of lies.
First, be sure of what you are talking about beacus not the apple A serie, exynos or kirin has been able to compete with the SD in sustained performance that has been like that always and with the A11 and A12 is not deference.
The A11 is severely thermally constrained and is only able to achieve these scores when the devices are cold
Not even in battery life.
And now that you are talking about sustained performance and the "wonderful kirin 980" here you have a real life speed test between the mate 20 pro and the pixel 3.
Dont talk what you know.
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized than android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
Huawei did promise that Kirin will beat A12 this year...but like most things from Huawei, that promise is just full of lies.
First, be sure of what you are talking about beacus not the apple A serie, exynos or kirin has been able to compete with the SD in sustained performance that has been like that always and with the A11 and A12 is not deference.
The A11 is severely thermally constrained and is only able to achieve these scores when the devices are cold
Not even in battery life.
And now that you are talking about sustained performance and the "wonderful kirin 980" here you have a real life speed test between the mate 20 pro and the pixel 3.
Dont talk what you know.
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized than android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
Huh? Dude, did you even read POST #101????? I thought that we’re talking A12 chip here?? Why are your changing topics??
According to deep analysis by Anandtech, A12 GPU is better than S845 in SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE BY A WHOOPING 45 (FORTY-FIVE) PERCENT!!!! Yes, 45% faster. Your S845 is trash compare to A12 GPU.
To quote Anandtech:
“In terms of sustained performance, the figures quickly reduce after a few minutes and stabilise further down the road. Here, the iPhone XS outperforms the iPhone X by 61%. The Apple A12 is also able to beat the current leader, the Snapdragon 845 inside the OnePlus 6, by 45% in sustained performance.
...the iPhone XS and XS Maxi, thanks to the new A12 SoC, showcase industry leading performance and efficiency, and currently are the best mobile platforms for gaming, period.”
S855 is ONLY 20% faster than S845. Do the math. OUCH!
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized than android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
I will talk what i know! LOL
Dude, you don't know jack. You cannot even stay on topic because you are wrong on basically everything so far!
Tell me more about "iOS optimization" and why Spec2006 and Geekbench scores favor iPhone. Tell me more. Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS. Clearly, you don't give credit to the CPU architecture and custom cores...you think that it is all because of optimizations. Explain please. I am dying to here your deep tech knowledge on this.
You should STFU. You’re in waaayyy over your head here kid. I will continue to make you look like a damn fool. Just my advice.
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized than android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
I will talk what i know! LOL
Dude, you don't know jack. You cannot even stay on topic because you are wrong on basically everything so far!
Tell me more about "iOS optimization" and why Spec2006 and Geekbench scores favor iPhone. Tell me more. Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS. Clearly, you don't give credit to the CPU architecture and custom cores...you think that it is all because of optimizations. Explain please. I am dying to here your deep tech knowledge on this.
Ok, if OS do not have nothing to be with the Benchmark scores then you tell me why a laptop with Mac OS have different scores than a laptop using windows with the same Intel core i5 ?? Tell why you take a laptop with windows and put ubuntu on it and the geekbench scores are different ??? If you think you know then tell me.
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized than android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
I will talk what i know! LOL
Dude, you don't know jack. You cannot even stay on topic because you are wrong on basically everything so far!
Tell me more about "iOS optimization" and why Spec2006 and Geekbench scores favor iPhone. Tell me more. Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS. Clearly, you don't give credit to the CPU architecture and custom cores...you think that it is all because of optimizations. Explain please. I am dying to here your deep tech knowledge on this.
You should STFU. You’re in waaayyy over your head here kid. I will continue to make you look like a damn fool. Just my advice.
2 diferent os, both linux, 2 different laptops same processor. If you know so much tell me why both have different scores
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized than android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
I will talk what i know! LOL
Dude, you don't know jack. You cannot even stay on topic because you are wrong on basically everything so far!
Tell me more about "iOS optimization" and why Spec2006 and Geekbench scores favor iPhone. Tell me more. Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS. Clearly, you don't give credit to the CPU architecture and custom cores...you think that it is all because of optimizations. Explain please. I am dying to here your deep tech knowledge on this.
Ok, if OS do not have nothing to be with the Benchmark scores then you tell me why a laptop with Mac OS have different scores than a laptop using windows with the same Intel core i5 ?? Tell why you take a laptop with windows and put ubuntu on it and the geekbench scores are different ??? If you think you know then tell me.
No, i want YOU to explain to me. After that i will explain why Spec2006 or Geekbench do not differ much at all...and thus, are indeed cross-platform.
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized than android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
I will talk what i know! LOL
Dude, you don't know jack. You cannot even stay on topic because you are wrong on basically everything so far!
Tell me more about "iOS optimization" and why Spec2006 and Geekbench scores favor iPhone. Tell me more. Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS. Clearly, you don't give credit to the CPU architecture and custom cores...you think that it is all because of optimizations. Explain please. I am dying to here your deep tech knowledge on this.
Ok, if OS do not have nothing to be with the Benchmark scores then you tell me why a laptop with Mac OS have different scores than a laptop using windows with the same Intel core i5 ?? Tell why you take a laptop with windows and put ubuntu on it and the geekbench scores are different ??? If you think you know then tell me.
No, i want YOU to explain to me. After that i will explain why Spec2006 or Geekbench do not differ much at all...and thus, are indeed cross-platform.
You are the professional here hahahaha you are the one who know everything hahaha but yeah you dont even know what to answer.
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized than android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
I will talk what i know! LOL
Dude, you don't know jack. You cannot even stay on topic because you are wrong on basically everything so far!
Tell me more about "iOS optimization" and why Spec2006 and Geekbench scores favor iPhone. Tell me more. Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS. Clearly, you don't give credit to the CPU architecture and custom cores...you think that it is all because of optimizations. Explain please. I am dying to here your deep tech knowledge on this.
Ok, if OS do not have nothing to be with the Benchmark scores then you tell me why a laptop with Mac OS have different scores than a laptop using windows with the same Intel core i5 ?? Tell why you take a laptop with windows and put ubuntu on it and the geekbench scores are different ??? If you think you know then tell me.
No, i want YOU to explain to me. After that i will explain why Spec2006 or Geekbench do not differ much at all...and thus, are indeed cross-platform.
You are the professional here hahahaha you are the one who know everything hahaha but yeah you dont even know what to answer.
Come Brian answer
Hint: different something can explain the slight difference. See how single core is pretty much same.
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized than android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
I will talk what i know! LOL
Dude, you don't know jack. You cannot even stay on topic because you are wrong on basically everything so far!
Tell me more about "iOS optimization" and why Spec2006 and Geekbench scores favor iPhone. Tell me more. Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS. Clearly, you don't give credit to the CPU architecture and custom cores...you think that it is all because of optimizations. Explain please. I am dying to here your deep tech knowledge on this.
Ok, if OS do not have nothing to be with the Benchmark scores then you tell me why a laptop with Mac OS have different scores than a laptop using windows with the same Intel core i5 ?? Tell why you take a laptop with windows and put ubuntu on it and the geekbench scores are different ??? If you think you know then tell me.
No, i want YOU to explain to me. After that i will explain why Spec2006 or Geekbench do not differ much at all...and thus, are indeed cross-platform.
You are the professional here hahahaha you are the one who know everything hahaha but yeah you dont even know what to answer.
Come Brian answer
Hint: different something can explain the slight difference. See how single core is pretty much same.
Hahaha that's the only think you can said hahahaha what about multicore, same amount of cores, same cache same processor.
Come on smart man tell me hahaha explain to me if you can.
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized uthan android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
I will talk what i know! LOL
Dude, you don't know jack. You cannot even stay on topic because you are wrong on basically everything so far!
Tell me more about "iOS optimization" and why Spec2006 and Geekbench scores favor iPhone. Tell me more. Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS. Clearly, you don't give credit to the CPU architecture and custom cores...you think that it is all because of optimizations. Explain please. I am dying to here your deep tech knowledge on this.
You should STFU. You’re in waaayyy over your head here kid. I will continue to make you look like a damn fool. Just my advice.
One more thing hehe tell me who look like a fool hahahaha
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized uthan android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
I will talk what i know! LOL
Dude, you don't know jack. You cannot even stay on topic because you are wrong on basically everything so far!
Tell me more about "iOS optimization" and why Spec2006 and Geekbench scores favor iPhone. Tell me more. Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS. Clearly, you don't give credit to the CPU architecture and custom cores...you think that it is all because of optimizations. Explain please. I am dying to here your deep tech knowledge on this.
You should STFU. You’re in waaayyy over your head here kid. I will continue to make you look like a damn fool. Just my advice.
One more thing hehe tell me who look like a fool hahahaha
Every OS will have different drivers that use hardware slightly different. The deviation in scores for those two configurations are slightly larger than normal, but not atypical for the difference between two runs on a given machine. Some specific workload scores, mainly the HTML5 DOM score, show an unexpected discrepancy which could be the result of a hardware issue or an intermittent background process, though with two results it is difficult to draw firm conclusions about its cause.
Your comment was that the devices run different OSes. True. However you say that means that the tests are invalid, which isn't true.
So the kernel is the first item. The kernel performs several tasks relevant to our tests: Tasking scheduling, RAM management and IO. We can assume that the first is negligible as there is only one high priority tasking running, the benchmark itself. The exception is during the multi-core tests. The question is does one OS provide a significant performance boost over the other due to its scheduling of threads. No, it doesn't. For proof of this we can look further afield to Linux and macOS in general. Will there be a difference, sure, but not enough to bias the results. OS architecture affects performance when the program makes a system call. Geekbench and Antutu, though they have subtests that test system calls, are mostly looping common tasks that are confined to userspace and really just runs on bare metal. They don't touch the kernel.
Next screen resolution. This of course is a factor for GPU tests. For Geekbench it is completely irrelevant. For AnTuTu it is indeed a factor, however AnTuTu has also altered its loads to include off screen rendering. Also, the screen resolutions of the devices under test are similar, not the same, but similar. So, overall nothing here, please move along.
Up next is RAM. Well RAM isn’t part of the OS and it is actually part of the subsystem that we want to test. The differences in RAM performance are important to us, hence running the benchmarks in the first place. If you mean RAM management then that is a part of the kernel as I mentioned earlier. If the tests are doing lots of dynamic memory requests, asking for RAM from the OS and then returning it, then you would be correct. This would exercise the OS much more than the hardware. However, that is not what the tests do. Display and RAM...Geekbench is an off-screen app. It doesn't push anything that the display resolution would affect. RAM might be an issue but it seems Geekbench fits well within the RAM of both devices just fine.
Now we come to storage. It is indeed true that Geekbench contains IO related tests and it is also true that these do have a heavier OS reliance than the other tests. However two things to note. 1) Is that the tests are the same on both operating systems (i.e. using SQLite) and they aren’t specific aimed directly at the native filesystem. 2) While I agree that a bias dependent on the performance of the filesystem will exist, the question is will that biases be more than the performance characteristics of the hardware. Tough question. I will go with no, because the same tests run on different generations of the same platform (say the iPhone 7S compared to the iPhone 8 compared to the X) show the same relative performance increase as observed across platforms. In other words, if the processor under test shows performance gain X on iOS compared to iOS, but a very different relative performance gain on iOS to Android then something is wrong. However, we don’t see that.
One more things to mention.The tests from Geekbench and AnTuTu are written in C, so there is no comparison of the Java Runtime library with Obj-C/Swift etc.
The only real variable is the CPU governor and power throttling schemes. That can indeed affect performance from device to device, not just OS to OS. But Geekbench at least already has that taken into consideration. It has built-in "cooldown" periods when it detects CPU throttling.
Finally, cross platform benchmarking is used all across the industry as a way to test hardware while minimizing the impact of the OS. Well known examples including tests like SPECint.
Your comment was that the devices run different OSes. True. However you say that means that the tests are invalid, which isn't true.
So the kernel is the first item. The kernel performs several tasks relevant to our tests: Tasking scheduling, RAM management and IO. We can assume that the first is negligible as there is only one high priority tasking running, the benchmark itself. The exception is during the multi-core tests. The question is does one OS provide a significant performance boost over the other due to its scheduling of threads. No, it doesn't. For proof of this we can look further afield to Linux and macOS in general. Will there be a difference, sure, but not enough to bias the results. OS architecture affects performance when the program makes a system call. Geekbench and Antutu, though they have subtests that test system calls, are mostly looping common tasks that are confined to userspace and really just runs on bare metal. They don't touch the kernel.
Next screen resolution. This of course is a factor for GPU tests. For Geekbench it is completely irrelevant. For AnTuTu it is indeed a factor, however AnTuTu has also altered its loads to include off screen rendering. Also, the screen resolutions of the devices under test are similar, not the same, but similar. So, overall nothing here, please move along.
Up next is RAM. Well RAM isn’t part of the OS and it is actually part of the subsystem that we want to test. The differences in RAM performance are important to us, hence running the benchmarks in the first place. If you mean RAM management then that is a part of the kernel as I mentioned earlier. If the tests are doing lots of dynamic memory requests, asking for RAM from the OS and then returning it, then you would be correct. This would exercise the OS much more than the hardware. However, that is not what the tests do. Display and RAM...Geekbench is an off-screen app. It doesn't push anything that the display resolution would affect. RAM might be an issue but it seems Geekbench fits well within the RAM of both devices just fine.
Now we come to storage. It is indeed true that Geekbench contains IO related tests and it is also true that these do have a heavier OS reliance than the other tests. However two things to note. 1) Is that the tests are the same on both operating systems (i.e. using SQLite) and they aren’t specific aimed directly at the native filesystem. 2) While I agree that a bias dependent on the performance of the filesystem will exist, the question is will that biases be more than the performance characteristics of the hardware. Tough question. I will go with no, because the same tests run on different generations of the same platform (say the iPhone 7S compared to the iPhone 8 compared to the X) show the same relative performance increase as observed across platforms. In other words, if the processor under test shows performance gain X on iOS compared to iOS, but a very different relative performance gain on iOS to Android then something is wrong. However, we don’t see that.
One more things to mention.The tests from Geekbench and AnTuTu are written in C, so there is no comparison of the Java Runtime library with Obj-C/Swift etc.
The only real variable is the CPU governor and power throttling schemes. That can indeed affect performance from device to device, not just OS to OS. But Geekbench at least already has that taken into consideration. It has built-in "cooldown" periods when it detects CPU throttling.
Finally, cross platform benchmarking is used all across the industry as a way to test hardware while minimizing the impact of the OS. Well known examples including tests like SPECint.
How good Google is. so you are telling me that if you use the apple A12 on windows you still will get the same score that you get using iOS hahaha dont dream with that, no metter how much you optimized windows of the A12, windows is to much with to many background task. OS have a lot to be in bechmark same has motherboard, and has been proved that depend on the motherboard the scores are higher. You remember this part in one of your comments ( Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS ) tell who looks like a fool. You are going against yourself hahaha
Your comment was that the devices run different OSes. True. However you say that means that the tests are invalid, which isn't true.
So the kernel is the first item. The kernel performs several tasks relevant to our tests: Tasking scheduling, RAM management and IO. We can assume that the first is negligible as there is only one high priority tasking running, the benchmark itself. The exception is during the multi-core tests. The question is does one OS provide a significant performance boost over the other due to its scheduling of threads. No, it doesn't. For proof of this we can look further afield to Linux and macOS in general. Will there be a difference, sure, but not enough to bias the results. OS architecture affects performance when the program makes a system call. Geekbench and Antutu, though they have subtests that test system calls, are mostly looping common tasks that are confined to userspace and really just runs on bare metal. They don't touch the kernel.
Next screen resolution. This of course is a factor for GPU tests. For Geekbench it is completely irrelevant. For AnTuTu it is indeed a factor, however AnTuTu has also altered its loads to include off screen rendering. Also, the screen resolutions of the devices under test are similar, not the same, but similar. So, overall nothing here, please move along.
Up next is RAM. Well RAM isn’t part of the OS and it is actually part of the subsystem that we want to test. The differences in RAM performance are important to us, hence running the benchmarks in the first place. If you mean RAM management then that is a part of the kernel as I mentioned earlier. If the tests are doing lots of dynamic memory requests, asking for RAM from the OS and then returning it, then you would be correct. This would exercise the OS much more than the hardware. However, that is not what the tests do. Display and RAM...Geekbench is an off-screen app. It doesn't push anything that the display resolution would affect. RAM might be an issue but it seems Geekbench fits well within the RAM of both devices just fine.
Now we come to storage. It is indeed true that Geekbench contains IO related tests and it is also true that these do have a heavier OS reliance than the other tests. However two things to note. 1) Is that the tests are the same on both operating systems (i.e. using SQLite) and they aren’t specific aimed directly at the native filesystem. 2) While I agree that a bias dependent on the performance of the filesystem will exist, the question is will that biases be more than the performance characteristics of the hardware. Tough question. I will go with no, because the same tests run on different generations of the same platform (say the iPhone 7S compared to the iPhone 8 compared to the X) show the same relative performance increase as observed across platforms. In other words, if the processor under test shows performance gain X on iOS compared to iOS, but a very different relative performance gain on iOS to Android then something is wrong. However, we don’t see that.
One more things to mention.The tests from Geekbench and AnTuTu are written in C, so there is no comparison of the Java Runtime library with Obj-C/Swift etc.
The only real variable is the CPU governor and power throttling schemes. That can indeed affect performance from device to device, not just OS to OS. But Geekbench at least already has that taken into consideration. It has built-in "cooldown" periods when it detects CPU throttling.
Finally, cross platform benchmarking is used all across the industry as a way to test hardware while minimizing the impact of the OS. Well known examples including tests like SPECint.
How good Google is. You remember this part in one of your comments ( Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS ) tell who looks like a fool. You are going against yourself hahaha
One more time.
Read and inform your self before talk.
Page 3 of this thread. NO NEED TO GOOGLE.
So so we now agree that A12 GPU spank 845 butt and will likely kill 855 too? SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE.
According to deep analysis by Anandtech, A12 GPU is better than S845 in SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE BY A WHOOPING 45 (FORTY-FIVE) PERCENT!!!! Yes, 45% faster. Your S845 is trash compare to A12 GPU.
To quote Anandtech:
“In terms of sustained performance, the figures quickly reduce after a few minutes and stabilise further down the road. Here, the iPhone XS outperforms the iPhone X by 61%. The Apple A12 is also able to beat the current leader, the Snapdragon 845 inside the OnePlus 6, by 45% in sustained performance.
...the iPhone XS and XS Maxi, thanks to the new A12 SoC, showcase industry leading performance and efficiency, and currently are the best mobile platforms for gaming, period.”
S855 is ONLY 20% faster than S845. Do the math. OUCH!
According to deep analysis by Anandtech, A12 GPU is better than S845 in SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE BY A WHOOPING 45 (FORTY-FIVE) PERCENT!!!! Yes, 45% faster. Your S845 is trash compare to A12 GPU.
To quote Anandtech:
“In terms of sustained performance, the figures quickly reduce after a few minutes and stabilise further down the road. Here, the iPhone XS outperforms the iPhone X by 61%. The Apple A12 is also able to beat the current leader, the Snapdragon 845 inside the OnePlus 6, by 45% in sustained performance.
...the iPhone XS and XS Maxi, thanks to the new A12 SoC, showcase industry leading performance and efficiency, and currently are the best mobile platforms for gaming, period.”
S855 is ONLY 20% faster than S845. Do the math. OUCH!
Are you smoking something??.
We have the adreno 630 runing on a single high performance core using opened gl es 3.1 in a 10 nm technology with a 1866 mhz memory ram doing 128k in antutu In the other side we have tha A12 runing on 6 cores using metal 2 with a 7 nm technology with 2133 mhz memory ram scoring 124k and you still believe in what you are saying??
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We know that 855 CPU will be 2 years behind Apple. We agree on that.
GPU...20% faster than 845. We agree. So let’s see how much faster A12 is over 845.
To quote Anandtech:
“In terms of sustained performance, the figures quickly reduce after a few minutes and stabilise further down the road. Here, the iPhone XS outperforms the iPhone X by 61%. The Apple A12 is also able to beat the current leader, the Snapdragon 845 inside the OnePlus 6, by 45% in sustained performance.
...the iPhone XS and XS Maxi, thanks to the new A12 SoC, showcase industry leading performance and efficiency, and currently are the best mobile platforms for gaming, period.”
Anything else i need to educate your ignorant arse on? LOL
The Apple A12 is a beast of a SoC. While the A11 already bested the competition in terms of performance and power efficiency, the A12 doubles down on it in this regard, thanks to Apple’s world-class design teams which were able to squeeze out even more out of their CPU microarchitectures. The Vortex CPU’s memory subsystem saw an enormous boost, which grants the A12 a significant performance boost in a lot of workloads.
On the GPU side, Apple’s measured performance gains are also within the promised figures, and even above that when it comes to sustained performance. The new GPU looks like an iteration on last year’s design, but an added fourth core as well as the important introduction of GPU memory compression are able to increase the performance to new levels.”
Yeah, i love to go there! Can you keep up? LOL
BTW, since you love Antutu so much, you do realize that Antutu can be cheated on (like Huawei and Samsung have done repeatedly!). Secondly, Antutu CPU test is pathetically basic...it is far from testing the actual CPU performance. Per Anandtech: "AnTuTu’s CPU test falls among these as its footprint is also tiny and not testing anything beyond the execution engines and the first level cache hierarchy."
And this is why Antutu is not used by major reviewers...too easily to cheat and the score is not exactly real-world based. Nice score sure...but SPEC2006 is far better. So, let's see how S855/8150 can do on SPEC2006. Until then, YOU JUST GOT OWNED.
Huawei did promise that Kirin will beat A12 this year...but like most things from Huawei, that promise is just full of lies.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12420/snapdragon-845-performance-preview/4
The A11 is severely thermally constrained and is only able to achieve these scores when the devices are cold
Not even in battery life.
And now that you are talking about sustained performance and the "wonderful kirin 980" here you have a real life speed test between the mate 20 pro and the pixel 3.
Dont talk what you know.
The only one I give you is the CPU, the CPU in the iPhone is more faster beacus the IOS is better optimized than android but on the GPU theres nothing to look.
According to deep analysis by Anandtech, A12 GPU is better than S845 in SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE BY A WHOOPING 45 (FORTY-FIVE) PERCENT!!!! Yes, 45% faster. Your S845 is trash compare to A12 GPU.
To quote Anandtech:
“In terms of sustained performance, the figures quickly reduce after a few minutes and stabilise further down the road. Here, the iPhone XS outperforms the iPhone X by 61%. The Apple A12 is also able to beat the current leader, the Snapdragon 845 inside the OnePlus 6, by 45% in sustained performance.
...the iPhone XS and XS Maxi, thanks to the new A12 SoC, showcase industry leading performance and efficiency, and currently are the best mobile platforms for gaming, period.”
S855 is ONLY 20% faster than S845. Do the math. OUCH!
And here is XS Max destroying Pixel 3!!!
https://youtu.be/Usvx_rJogxg
Why are you changing topics/??? LOL. ADD? So, when you get destroyed by FACTS, you change topic? HAHAHAHA
Dude, you don't know jack. You cannot even stay on topic because you are wrong on basically everything so far!
Tell me more about "iOS optimization" and why Spec2006 and Geekbench scores favor iPhone. Tell me more. Explain me how these benchmarks are influenced by the OS. Clearly, you don't give credit to the CPU architecture and custom cores...you think that it is all because of optimizations. Explain please. I am dying to here your deep tech knowledge on this.
You should STFU. You’re in waaayyy over your head here kid. I will continue to make you look like a damn fool. Just my advice.
Come Brian answer
Come on smart man tell me hahaha explain to me if you can.
Your comment was that the devices run different OSes. True. However you say that means that the tests are invalid, which isn't true.
So the kernel is the first item. The kernel performs several tasks relevant to our tests: Tasking scheduling, RAM management and IO. We can assume that the first is negligible as there is only one high priority tasking running, the benchmark itself. The exception is during the multi-core tests. The question is does one OS provide a significant performance boost over the other due to its scheduling of threads. No, it doesn't. For proof of this we can look further afield to Linux and macOS in general. Will there be a difference, sure, but not enough to bias the results. OS architecture affects performance when the program makes a system call. Geekbench and Antutu, though they have subtests that test system calls, are mostly looping common tasks that are confined to userspace and really just runs on bare metal. They don't touch the kernel.
Next screen resolution. This of course is a factor for GPU tests. For Geekbench it is completely irrelevant. For AnTuTu it is indeed a factor, however AnTuTu has also altered its loads to include off screen rendering. Also, the screen resolutions of the devices under test are similar, not the same, but similar. So, overall nothing here, please move along.
Up next is RAM. Well RAM isn’t part of the OS and it is actually part of the subsystem that we want to test. The differences in RAM performance are important to us, hence running the benchmarks in the first place. If you mean RAM management then that is a part of the kernel as I mentioned earlier. If the tests are doing lots of dynamic memory requests, asking for RAM from the OS and then returning it, then you would be correct. This would exercise the OS much more than the hardware. However, that is not what the tests do. Display and RAM...Geekbench is an off-screen app. It doesn't push anything that the display resolution would affect. RAM might be an issue but it seems Geekbench fits well within the RAM of both devices just fine.
Now we come to storage. It is indeed true that Geekbench contains IO related tests and it is also true that these do have a heavier OS reliance than the other tests. However two things to note. 1) Is that the tests are the same on both operating systems (i.e. using SQLite) and they aren’t specific aimed directly at the native filesystem. 2) While I agree that a bias dependent on the performance of the filesystem will exist, the question is will that biases be more than the performance characteristics of the hardware. Tough question. I will go with no, because the same tests run on different generations of the same platform (say the iPhone 7S compared to the iPhone 8 compared to the X) show the same relative performance increase as observed across platforms. In other words, if the processor under test shows performance gain X on iOS compared to iOS, but a very different relative performance gain on iOS to Android then something is wrong. However, we don’t see that.
One more things to mention.The tests from Geekbench and AnTuTu are written in C, so there is no comparison of the Java Runtime library with Obj-C/Swift etc.
The only real variable is the CPU governor and power throttling schemes. That can indeed affect performance from device to device, not just OS to OS. But Geekbench at least already has that taken into consideration. It has built-in "cooldown" periods when it detects CPU throttling.
Finally, cross platform benchmarking is used all across the industry as a way to test hardware while minimizing the impact of the OS. Well known examples including tests like SPECint.
One more time.
Read and inform your self before talk.
So so we now agree that A12 GPU spank 845 butt and will likely kill 855 too? SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE.
According to deep analysis by Anandtech, A12 GPU is better than S845 in SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE BY A WHOOPING 45 (FORTY-FIVE) PERCENT!!!! Yes, 45% faster. Your S845 is trash compare to A12 GPU.
To quote Anandtech:
“In terms of sustained performance, the figures quickly reduce after a few minutes and stabilise further down the road. Here, the iPhone XS outperforms the iPhone X by 61%. The Apple A12 is also able to beat the current leader, the Snapdragon 845 inside the OnePlus 6, by 45% in sustained performance.
...the iPhone XS and XS Maxi, thanks to the new A12 SoC, showcase industry leading performance and efficiency, and currently are the best mobile platforms for gaming, period.”
S855 is ONLY 20% faster than S845. Do the math. OUCH!
We have the adreno 630 runing on a single high performance core using opened gl es 3.1 in a 10 nm technology with a 1866 mhz memory ram doing 128k in antutu
In the other side we have tha A12 runing on 6 cores using metal 2 with a 7 nm technology with 2133 mhz memory ram scoring 124k and you still believe in what you are saying??
Drugs are bad man, stop using them.