Apple includes confusing "5G E" AT&T connectivity icon in iOS 12.2 beta

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  • Reply 21 of 30
    dewmedewme Posts: 6,098member
    This is like putting a 150 mph speedometer on a Yugo.  AT&T's response ... we'll sell you some JATO rockets next year to attach to the rear bumper of your Yugo.
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  • Reply 22 of 30
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member
    gatorguy said:
    emoeller said:

    I think this is a bad idea as it implies that both AT&T and Apple have rolled out and are utilizing 5G technology, when in fact neither is utilizing 5G standards.
    Most people think it's Apple leading the 5G rollout, so no surprise if Apple might use that little misconception as a marketing advantage. 
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/american-consumers-5g-survey-apple/


    Funny, for most iPhone users, Apple always seems to have the right features, the right technology, at just the right time for upgrading. Probably why that "misconception" is such an advantage; it's true for them. Of course, it is both reassuring and helpful that Apple leads in lifecycle support of hones over the competition.

    Around here, it's always drang and sturm about Apple being behind some assortment of features, specs, or technology, that today's latest Android OS devices have.
    edited February 2019
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  • Reply 23 of 30
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member

    wocowboy said:
    The iPhone XR does not include 4x4 MIMO that is a lynchpin of AT&T's 5GE scam, it only supports 2x2 MIMO, so it gets less than half the data speed of the higher-priced models.    This capability is among the things you don't get when you buy the XR instead of the XS and XS-Max, both of which include 4x4 MIMO.
    That would be likely, half the theoretical speed, unless there are some real world tests you can link that show otherwise.

    Here's my link;

    https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-xr-vs-xs-cheat-sheet,review-5761.html

    "Faster gigabit LTE: Apple is reserving the fastest 4G speeds for the iPhone XS and the XS Max, as only the latter two handsets will support gigabit LTE. The iPhone XR supports only LTE Advanced, which is a step below gigabit LTE. That means you should see slower download and upload speeds from the iPhone XR than the iPhone XS and the XS Max.

    However, based on our iPhone XR review, we found that the iPhone XR's download speeds were comparable to the iPhone XS Max on T-Mobile's network. Only the upload speeds were slower."

    "While the iPhone XR doesn't support the fastest Gigabit LTE network standard that the iPhone XS and XS Max do, it delivered excellent data rates in our testing. On the Speedtet.net app, the iPhone XR averaged 58.4-Mbps downloads, compared to 58.2-Mbps down for the iPhone XS. However, the iPhone XS offered about double the upload speeds, at 25.4 Mbps versus 12.87 Mbps for the XR."

    Obviously, it depends on the network.

    edited February 2019
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  • Reply 24 of 30
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    emoeller said:

    I think this is a bad idea as it implies that both AT&T and Apple have rolled out and are utilizing 5G technology, when in fact neither is utilizing 5G standards.
    Most people think it's Apple leading the 5G rollout, so no surprise if Apple might use that little misconception as a marketing advantage. 
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/american-consumers-5g-survey-apple/


    Funny, for most iPhone users, Apple always seems to have the right features, the right technology, at just the right time for upgrading. Probably why that "misconception" is such an advantage; it's true for them. Of course, it is both reassuring and helpful that Apple leads in lifecycle support of hones over the competition.

    Around here, it's always drang and sturm about Apple being behind some assortment of features, specs, or technology, that today's latest Android OS devices have.
    So you agree that Apple implying to their users they now have "5G" (not that regular folks even know what it is other than it's supposed to be a really big thing) on their new iPhone is fine since Apple will. Sometime. Soon. When it's ready.

    Well OK then TMay.
    edited February 2019
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  • Reply 25 of 30
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,327member
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    emoeller said:

    I think this is a bad idea as it implies that both AT&T and Apple have rolled out and are utilizing 5G technology, when in fact neither is utilizing 5G standards.
    Most people think it's Apple leading the 5G rollout, so no surprise if Apple might use that little misconception as a marketing advantage. 
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/american-consumers-5g-survey-apple/


    Funny, for most iPhone users, Apple always seems to have the right features, the right technology, at just the right time for upgrading. Probably why that "misconception" is such an advantage; it's true for them. Of course, it is both reassuring and helpful that Apple leads in lifecycle support of hones over the competition.

    Around here, it's always drang and sturm about Apple being behind some assortment of features, specs, or technology, that today's latest Android OS devices have.
    Are you suggesting that iPhone users just imagine that they have those features and be happy in that fantasy world? ;-)

    That's a pretty expensive fantasy!
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  • Reply 26 of 30
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    emoeller said:

    I think this is a bad idea as it implies that both AT&T and Apple have rolled out and are utilizing 5G technology, when in fact neither is utilizing 5G standards.
    Most people think it's Apple leading the 5G rollout, so no surprise if Apple might use that little misconception as a marketing advantage. 
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/american-consumers-5g-survey-apple/


    Funny, for most iPhone users, Apple always seems to have the right features, the right technology, at just the right time for upgrading. Probably why that "misconception" is such an advantage; it's true for them. Of course, it is both reassuring and helpful that Apple leads in lifecycle support of hones over the competition.

    Around here, it's always drang and sturm about Apple being behind some assortment of features, specs, or technology, that today's latest Android OS devices have.
    So you agree that Apple implying to their users they now have "5G" (not that regular folks even know what it is other than it's supposed to be a really big thing) on their new iPhone is fine since Apple will. Sometime. Soon. When it's ready.

    Well OK then TMay.
    Nope, and I agree that Apple should cease with the icon.
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  • Reply 27 of 30
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member

    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    emoeller said:

    I think this is a bad idea as it implies that both AT&T and Apple have rolled out and are utilizing 5G technology, when in fact neither is utilizing 5G standards.
    Most people think it's Apple leading the 5G rollout, so no surprise if Apple might use that little misconception as a marketing advantage. 
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/american-consumers-5g-survey-apple/


    Funny, for most iPhone users, Apple always seems to have the right features, the right technology, at just the right time for upgrading. Probably why that "misconception" is such an advantage; it's true for them. Of course, it is both reassuring and helpful that Apple leads in lifecycle support of hones over the competition.

    Around here, it's always drang and sturm about Apple being behind some assortment of features, specs, or technology, that today's latest Android OS devices have.
    Are you suggesting that iPhone users just imagine that they have those features and be happy in that fantasy world? ;-)

    That's a pretty expensive fantasy!
    No, only that most people, including yourself, don't actually buy the bleeding edge models, simply because their current phone is "good enough", and when they do eventually upgrade, they end up with the important features anyway.
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  • Reply 28 of 30
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    emoeller said:

    I think this is a bad idea as it implies that both AT&T and Apple have rolled out and are utilizing 5G technology, when in fact neither is utilizing 5G standards.
    Most people think it's Apple leading the 5G rollout, so no surprise if Apple might use that little misconception as a marketing advantage. 
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/american-consumers-5g-survey-apple/


    Funny, for most iPhone users, Apple always seems to have the right features, the right technology, at just the right time for upgrading. Probably why that "misconception" is such an advantage; it's true for them. Of course, it is both reassuring and helpful that Apple leads in lifecycle support of hones over the competition.

    Around here, it's always drang and sturm about Apple being behind some assortment of features, specs, or technology, that today's latest Android OS devices have.
    So you agree that Apple implying to their users they now have "5G" (not that regular folks even know what it is other than it's supposed to be a really big thing) on their new iPhone is fine since Apple will. Sometime. Soon. When it's ready.

    Well OK then TMay.
    Nope, and I agree that Apple should cease with the icon.
    Well then we agree.
    muthuk_vanalingam
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  • Reply 29 of 30
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    emoeller said:

    I think this is a bad idea as it implies that both AT&T and Apple have rolled out and are utilizing 5G technology, when in fact neither is utilizing 5G standards.
    Most people think it's Apple leading the 5G rollout, so no surprise if Apple might use that little misconception as a marketing advantage. 
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/american-consumers-5g-survey-apple/


    Funny, for most iPhone users, Apple always seems to have the right features, the right technology, at just the right time for upgrading. Probably why that "misconception" is such an advantage; it's true for them. Of course, it is both reassuring and helpful that Apple leads in lifecycle support of hones over the competition.

    Around here, it's always drang and sturm about Apple being behind some assortment of features, specs, or technology, that today's latest Android OS devices have.
    So you agree that Apple implying to their users they now have "5G" (not that regular folks even know what it is other than it's supposed to be a really big thing) on their new iPhone is fine since Apple will. Sometime. Soon. When it's ready.

    Well OK then TMay.
    Nope, and I agree that Apple should cease with the icon.
    Well then we agree.
    I would note that this is in the beta, so it is likely no consumer would see it anyway, but it if makes it into the release version, that is where I have the problem.
    muthuk_vanalingam
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