<strong>wasn't it Dorsal who started the DNA thing? The MB shown in his latest posts were labeled DNA. He was also tlking about DDR for MWNY2001 it never appeared probaly beacause MOTO never got a workable chip out. Time will tell.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What DNA thing was that? He never posted pictures...?
I don't doubt that Apple has had working (or almost working) DDR motherboards for over a year now -- most likely of the Xserve variety, which is of dubious value in a non-server machine without Quartz Extreme.
When did Apple acquire Raycer? It was then, more than a year, when I thought out loud (and even though I don't understand these things) that using the already present (and powerful if limited) GPU would be a much better strategy that building mysterious DSP 'chips'. We have API's I reasoned, so rather than have them accelerate noting but games, why not make them do a little real work more of the time? Turns out that's exactly what happened but, nobody listened to me then 'cause I wasn't slinging all manner of hardware speculation feces. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
The delivery for our AI deep throats notwithstanding, the new PowerMac delivery may be even later than August. Though there's little reason to believe that the following analyst has any hard information, his speculative concern should concern us all:
"Apple has probably got new CPUs in the works, but they can't release new machines in this economic climate until they've moved the current product," Manhattan marketing analyst Jessop Hawlins said. "So far, it's not a huge issue; they have announced new fun products that should appeal to their summer season buyers.
"But if they don't have the new models out early in 2003, I would expect the lack of high-performance machines to have a serious impact on their overall sales," Hawlins added. "You'd also have to wonder what speeds they'll need to be playing catch-up with by then."
Early in 2003! That would be curtains, with Apple ripped to ribbons. Considering his penchant for hyperbole, Jobs's tepid remarks about processor upgrades (paraphrase: "we see some pretty good things ahead") may point to another 500mhz-esque fiasco.
Salvation (a la Power4) in 2003? It's a rough time and a rough market. Come with the in-between PowerMac now, Apple!
I repeat. Now, now, even now. More of your loyal users will buy than you can predict, Mr. Jobs.
I just wanted to point out that just because somebody has access to some new secret hardware and describes it in detail, does not mean that they know when or if it will ever be released. I've seen quite a few features come and go in Jaguar through progressive builds... if I had ever said one of those features was going to be in Jaguar in August, it would have made me look like a liar because Apple removed that feature from the next build.
Same thing with hardware prototypes. If somebody says they have some new kickass hardware but then it never gets released... it doesn't necessarily mean they were making it up. Just try to remember that when criticizing people over their lack of accuracy regarding Macworld Expo predictions.
<strong>The delivery for our AI deep throats notwithstanding, the new PowerMac delivery may be even later than August. Though there's little reason to believe that the following analyst has any hard information, his speculative concern should concern us all:
"Apple has probably got new CPUs in the works, but they can't release new machines in this economic climate until they've moved the current product," Manhattan marketing analyst Jessop Hawlins said. "So far, it's not a huge issue; they have announced new fun products that should appeal to their summer season buyers.
"But if they don't have the new models out early in 2003, I would expect the lack of high-performance machines to have a serious impact on their overall sales," Hawlins added. "You'd also have to wonder what speeds they'll need to be playing catch-up with by then."
Early in 2003! That would be curtains, with Apple ripped to ribbons. Considering his penchant for hyperbole, Jobs's tepid remarks about processor upgrades (paraphrase: "we see some pretty good things ahead") may point to another 500mhz-esque fiasco.
Salvation (a la Power4) in 2003? It's a rough time and a rough market. Come with the in-between PowerMac now, Apple!
I repeat. Now, now, even now. More of your loyal users will buy than you can predict, Mr. Jobs.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think you're reading way too much into the comments of an analyst who doesn't know anything anyhow... and you are also reading too much into the Jobsian comments. Apple is apparently sitting on 6.5 weeks of inventory (as of MacWorld), which is by definition measured against the current rate of sales. They have at least 4 weeks before the expected intro date, plus the rate of sales is expected to pick up a little due to the new discount program and the fact that MacWorld has come and gone. Sure there are a lot of people who will continue to hold off, but there are also a lot of people who need a new machine which doesn't have to be better than the current crop of PM's and to whom the current discount is good motivation. If they manage to chew through 5-6 weeks of inventory in the next 4 weeks then they'll be in decent shape for the new introduction.
Jobs' "pretty good things ahead" could simply be a smooth clock rate ramp on the G4, until the new IBM processor is ready to go. Perhaps a new G4 somewhere in the middle. It could be better than that, it could be worse than that. Jobs likes to play close to his vest, so he's just being neutral.
You're right Programmer. My statement is itself dubious:
[quote] Though there's little reason to believe that the following analyst has any hard information, his speculative concern should concern us all <hr></blockquote>
The dependent clause is in the Programmer camp. The independent clause contradicts its antecedent clause. I'm spinning specious whirligag, Progammer. We have five or six weeks to go.
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<strong>wasn't it Dorsal who started the DNA thing? The MB shown in his latest posts were labeled DNA. He was also tlking about DDR for MWNY2001 it never appeared probaly beacause MOTO never got a workable chip out. Time will tell.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What DNA thing was that? He never posted pictures...?
I don't doubt that Apple has had working (or almost working) DDR motherboards for over a year now -- most likely of the Xserve variety, which is of dubious value in a non-server machine without Quartz Extreme.
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"Apple has probably got new CPUs in the works, but they can't release new machines in this economic climate until they've moved the current product," Manhattan marketing analyst Jessop Hawlins said. "So far, it's not a huge issue; they have announced new fun products that should appeal to their summer season buyers.
"But if they don't have the new models out early in 2003, I would expect the lack of high-performance machines to have a serious impact on their overall sales," Hawlins added. "You'd also have to wonder what speeds they'll need to be playing catch-up with by then."
Early in 2003! That would be curtains, with Apple ripped to ribbons. Considering his penchant for hyperbole, Jobs's tepid remarks about processor upgrades (paraphrase: "we see some pretty good things ahead") may point to another 500mhz-esque fiasco.
Salvation (a la Power4) in 2003? It's a rough time and a rough market. Come with the in-between PowerMac now, Apple!
I repeat. Now, now, even now. More of your loyal users will buy than you can predict, Mr. Jobs.
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Same thing with hardware prototypes. If somebody says they have some new kickass hardware but then it never gets released... it doesn't necessarily mean they were making it up. Just try to remember that when criticizing people over their lack of accuracy regarding Macworld Expo predictions.
<strong>The delivery for our AI deep throats notwithstanding, the new PowerMac delivery may be even later than August. Though there's little reason to believe that the following analyst has any hard information, his speculative concern should concern us all:
"Apple has probably got new CPUs in the works, but they can't release new machines in this economic climate until they've moved the current product," Manhattan marketing analyst Jessop Hawlins said. "So far, it's not a huge issue; they have announced new fun products that should appeal to their summer season buyers.
"But if they don't have the new models out early in 2003, I would expect the lack of high-performance machines to have a serious impact on their overall sales," Hawlins added. "You'd also have to wonder what speeds they'll need to be playing catch-up with by then."
Early in 2003! That would be curtains, with Apple ripped to ribbons. Considering his penchant for hyperbole, Jobs's tepid remarks about processor upgrades (paraphrase: "we see some pretty good things ahead") may point to another 500mhz-esque fiasco.
Salvation (a la Power4) in 2003? It's a rough time and a rough market. Come with the in-between PowerMac now, Apple!
I repeat. Now, now, even now. More of your loyal users will buy than you can predict, Mr. Jobs.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think you're reading way too much into the comments of an analyst who doesn't know anything anyhow... and you are also reading too much into the Jobsian comments. Apple is apparently sitting on 6.5 weeks of inventory (as of MacWorld), which is by definition measured against the current rate of sales. They have at least 4 weeks before the expected intro date, plus the rate of sales is expected to pick up a little due to the new discount program and the fact that MacWorld has come and gone. Sure there are a lot of people who will continue to hold off, but there are also a lot of people who need a new machine which doesn't have to be better than the current crop of PM's and to whom the current discount is good motivation. If they manage to chew through 5-6 weeks of inventory in the next 4 weeks then they'll be in decent shape for the new introduction.
Jobs' "pretty good things ahead" could simply be a smooth clock rate ramp on the G4, until the new IBM processor is ready to go. Perhaps a new G4 somewhere in the middle. It could be better than that, it could be worse than that. Jobs likes to play close to his vest, so he's just being neutral.
[quote] Though there's little reason to believe that the following analyst has any hard information, his speculative concern should concern us all <hr></blockquote>
The dependent clause is in the Programmer camp. The independent clause contradicts its antecedent clause. I'm spinning specious whirligag, Progammer. We have five or six weeks to go.
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