Evidence of standalone Music, Podcasts apps for macOS surfaces, signals iTunes breakup

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  • Reply 41 of 48
    cornchipcornchip Posts: 1,954member
    long time comin'. when it actually happens... hopefully it's not a train wreck like iPhoto --> Photos. by which I mean there's a clusterclump folder with all your old iPhoto folders over on the side that you never use. I'm sure it'll be better... I think.

    EDIT: either way I seem to be in the minority here of people who actually don't mind iTunes & thinks it works pretty damn well -- along with iCloud & TimeMachine etc. Knock on wood, but all of these things have saved my ass numerous times, and I have never been royally screwed by any of it. Also, I don't destroy my CDs 🙄
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  • Reply 42 of 48
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,487member
    The only times I use iTunes is when I want to add music to iCloud music library or want to load video on to my iPhone or iPad. You would think by now Apple would have a way to do this without needing to use desktop iTunes. Especially when they’re positioning iPad Pro as a laptop replacement. The iOS music and TV should allow you to add media. Having to download it on a desktop/laptop, import it into iTunes and then sync with your iPhone or iPad is retarded. Oh and while they’re at it, allow people to edit iCloud Music and imported video metadata on device. Having to do that through iTunes is silly too.
    As far as video goes, I don't know why you'd waste all that time versus using a DLNA player that does wifi transfers. No transcoding, no syncing, etc. Infuse, nPlayer, VLC, etc.
    I use Infuse for my video playback but never got the wireless transfer part to work so I gave up.
    Weird. You can add files via DLNA server, SMB, Dropbox, iCloud Drive, FTP, browser, etc. I use a DLNA server at home and just add files straight from the list when I'm going to travel or whatever, it could not be simpler. Same thing with nPlayer before it.
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  • Reply 43 of 48
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,487member
    MacPro said:
    The only times I use iTunes is when I want to add music to iCloud music library or want to load video on to my iPhone or iPad. You would think by now Apple would have a way to do this without needing to use desktop iTunes. Especially when they’re positioning iPad Pro as a laptop replacement. The iOS music and TV should allow you to add media. Having to download it on a desktop/laptop, import it into iTunes and then sync with your iPhone or iPad is retarded. Oh and while they’re at it, allow people to edit iCloud Music and imported video metadata on device. Having to do that through iTunes is silly too.
    As far as video goes, I don't know why you'd waste all that time versus using a DLNA player that does wifi transfers. No transcoding, no syncing, etc. Infuse, nPlayer, VLC, etc.
    I use Infuse for my video playback but never got the wireless transfer part to work so I gave up.
    I was banging my head against the wall with trying to get Airplay to run a video from my Photos app on a Mac to the Apple TV and hear the audio on the HomePods connected to the TV.  Then I hit the wall ... It seems to be Airplay video or HomePod audio, both are not possible it seems although part of me wonders if there is a way I have yet to find.
    Airfoil, maybe?


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  • Reply 44 of 48
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,487member

    knowitall said:
    henrybay said:
    About time. iTunes is impossible to navigate in its current form. Split it into smaller, focused and more manageable pieces. 
    Exactly, try to find the iPod/Pad/Phone update screens ... hopeless mixing all the navigation UI paradigms at the same time.
    Found it!


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  • Reply 45 of 48
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,487member
    Apple still needs a strong local backup app for those of us who work with highly confidential, restricted or classified data on iPhone and iPad

    There is no way that backup can go up on iCloud.  

    I can’t even put my contacts up on iCloud

    On the other hand breaking up music, movies and books is fine.   Otherwise, be careful what you wish for
    You can do that in iTunes or Configurator 2.
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  • Reply 46 of 48
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,487member
    The moment iTunes totally corrupted my database of thousands of songs I moved from CD’s - stuff you don’t find on Spotify - was the moment I hated the app. My backups failed because of a failed Time Machine setup (another thing that needs to die!). Preoccupied hate that comes from the depths of your soul and every DNA strand in your body. Never I will have that music again after I destroyed these CD’s. What a piece of shit this app is and I have been waiting for years to see it die!
    Here here, its about time it died, i lost 10000 songs i dutifully copied off cds. I cant tell you how angry i am at apple for their gross negligence. I winder how many billions they are losing because of that one event?
    Gross negligence is not having a backup of your own data that you dutifully copied off of cds.
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  • Reply 47 of 48
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,487member
    TV & Movies and the store for those getting spun off into the TV App makes perfect sense.

    Audiobooks moving to Books also makes sense, given that's how it is on iOS. Podcasts given its own app? Sure, for the same reasons. 

    That leaves Music, which can stay the same as it is now for all I care, it works fine for the most part. 

    Only remaining question mark is iOS device management for manual syncing and backups. If that gets ripped out, then they should maybe rebrand and improve on Configurator 2, which already has the home screen management stuff in better form than it ever was in iTunes, etc. Have that be a better, built-in app that is easier to navigate for users who aren't doing office device management and such and it won't matter if it's attached to iTunes or not. Also, I assume iTunes becomes just Music.
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