The TextBlade keyboard is superb, but you'll have to be patient

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  • Reply 1601 of 1615
    colinngcolinng Posts: 116member
    Rolanbek said:

    Colin, 

    I don't expect you to be able to parse this...
    Rolanbek, thanks for making my day. That was truly hilarious! Really made me laugh. 

    Since we're trading jokes about parsing, here's my favorite one: https://stackoverflow.com/a/1732454/

    Hope you enjoy it as much as I did! 

    Colin
    deckaddict
  • Reply 1602 of 1615
    alexonlinealexonline Posts: 241member
    PS Mark, just tell the world what these updates are that you know we are “anxious” to learn, we know you won’t deliver on them for months anyway, so why the pretence?

    It’s obnoxious of you to continue behaving this way when one of your Treggers was placed in personal danger due to your ineptitude. 

    I sure am glad I have my money back. I can always reorder, but if you go bankrupt in the meantime, you’re not taking MY money with you on top of everything else. 
  • Reply 1603 of 1615
    alexonline said:

    ColinG attacked the messenger rather than responding to the message, which his response rudely dismissed!

    It is an indictment of MK’s extreme tardiness.

    Don’t know why you didn’t show any empathy for Verxion in your first reply to his comment, but your longer comment did state it was a busier day than usual. 

    I’m guessing you have been concerned an episode such as Verxion’s might happen to you

    some Treggers will presumably decide just how wise it is to use TextBlade in public, which is very sad indeed. 

    The reality of course is that millions of TextBlades should have now been in the public's hands

    The next update had better have some real substance
    1. And, of course, you and others here never do that! (yes, that was sarcastic).

    2. Yes. But also a problem when so many critics call everyone who disagrees with them a "liar". That guy was acting out that meme.

    3. Because I only had a brief opportunity to respond - and I thought, as long as he was hitting a legitimate complaint, I'd also reinforce another of his legitimate complaints.

    4. Actually, no. Never gave it any thought. Besides, I know karate and two other Japanese words :)

    5. I'm sure some will. Probably ones smarter than me.

    6. That is one view. It may even be correct. But it could also have been wrong.

    7. Yep. Said that multiple times.


  • Reply 1604 of 1615
    TextBladeDenied said:

    #2 - Ugh. What an ugly analogy....It's not ethical to just shoot someone, but it may be ethical to shoot someone who is shooting at you.

    You are far too much of a simpleton to debate this Kahuna.
    1. Don't care if it is "ugly" - it applied your "logic". as for your changed example, okay, if WT won't tell you what the free gift is before GR, then you are free to refuse to say what gifts you will give until they do.

    2. Hmmm, just referenced this practice of attacking the person rather than the arguments in a post to Alex and here you are, doing it. Good timing!

    BTW, why are you against liberty? I mean, you went on about how you had me on ignore, and agreed with someone that it was so liberating - yet this is the second time you've obviously responded to what I posted.
  • Reply 1605 of 1615
    alexonlinealexonline Posts: 241member
    ColinG says he “knows” Waytools

    https://forum.waytools.com/t/the-clock-is-ticking/5621/17

    What a shame Knighton is such an unreliable narrator and actor, then. 

    Even in in the face of the public attack on Verxion, the denial of reality continues - as does Mark’s silence of any useful information!

    ColinG - you are becoming a bit of an unreliable narrator, too. If you KNOW Mark Knighton and Waytools, when, pray tell, is TextBlade due?

    Or don’t you know?

    The reality is that you know nothing, Colin Snow. 
    edited June 2019
  • Reply 1606 of 1615
    alexonlinealexonline Posts: 241member
    alexonline said:

    ColinG attacked the messenger rather than responding to the message, which his response rudely dismissed!

    It is an indictment of MK’s extreme tardiness.

    Don’t know why you didn’t show any empathy for Verxion in your first reply to his comment, but your longer comment did state it was a busier day than usual. 

    I’m guessing you have been concerned an episode such as Verxion’s might happen to you

    some Treggers will presumably decide just how wise it is to use TextBlade in public, which is very sad indeed. 

    The reality of course is that millions of TextBlades should have now been in the public's hands

    The next update had better have some real substance
    1. And, of course, you and others here never do that! (yes, that was sarcastic).

    2. Yes. But also a problem when so many critics call everyone who disagrees with them a "liar". That guy was acting out that meme.

    3. Because I only had a brief opportunity to respond - and I thought, as long as he was hitting a legitimate complaint, I'd also reinforce another of his legitimate complaints.

    4. Actually, no. Never gave it any thought. Besides, I know karate and two other Japanese words :)

    5. I'm sure some will. Probably ones smarter than me.

    6. That is one view. It may even be correct. But it could also have been wrong.

    7. Yep. Said that multiple times.


    You act as a proxy for Mark, or at least have in the past. Many would characterise your actions as much more than a mere “messenger”.
  • Reply 1607 of 1615
    You act as a proxy for Mark, or at least have in the past. Many would characterise your actions as much more than a mere “messenger”.
    I act according to what I want to say. But didn't you just make an issue about focusing on the person rather than their arguments?

    I don't care about what "many" would characterize me as. They've been consistently wrong.

    I'm totally open about what I say, think, and the reasons for how I post. Yet a whole bunch of you folks keep insisting on your own meme instead.
  • Reply 1608 of 1615
    sirasira Posts: 4member
    Dabigkahuna said. The reasons for not being able to ship have already been explained many times.
    So, has Waytools ever posted a sensible explanation for my post 1569?

    Do updates to refactoring farms require hardware replacement? Yes / no
    Case Yes: Is the post that the OTA problem has been solved a lie?
    Case No: Why is it not possible to ship with the good firmware of ver.1?

    How many TB orderd customers want 100% perfect products?
    I believe that it includes myself, but customers who order at the time of product launch in January 2015 should be considered as a enthusiastic early adapter, not a general customer. 
    Isn't such a customer different from the general users participating in TREG.

    Shouldn't waytools think that. Ther are the partner who can actually receive the goods and report any problems and solve them together.

    alexonlinearkorott
  • Reply 1609 of 1615
    You act as a proxy for Mark, or at least have in the past. Many would characterise your actions as much more than a mere “messenger”.
    I act according to what I want to say. But didn't you just make an issue about focusing on the person rather than their arguments?

    I don't care about what "many" would characterize me as. They've been consistently wrong.

    I'm totally open about what I say, think, and the reasons for how I post. Yet a whole bunch of you folks keep insisting on your own meme instead.
    Whilst you are certainly entitled to an opinion, it is not one which is universally shared... nor is it established fact...
    alexonline
  • Reply 1610 of 1615
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,818administrator
    Done here.
    gmaddenTextBladeDeniedRolanbekidea2go_twitter
  • Reply 1611 of 1615
    weirdosmurf said:

     so it’s just deliberate misrepresentation then... [shrug]
    Except I didn't misrepresent anyone.

    But here you are, once again making it about me :)
    Au contraire mon cherie... Akorot wrote the following post:
    arkorott said:

    Wow, his should quite an update...an update that requires an update after being promised so many weeks ago and way past their self imposed deadline.
    So as you said they at the very least should announce GR, on top of the cure for cancer, discovery of the warp drive, launch of Half Life 3, and the last 2 pending GRRM GoT novels.

    edit: have you read at WTF of people increasing their order units on account of the update of the update ?!
    Now we have confirmation we will get all these goodies and more ! (and a secret, secret gift...)
    You then followed quoting him with this:

    arkorott said:

    Wow, his should quite an update
    That is one of the points I've tried to make to WT. The longer it takes to get the update out - missing many time projections along the way - it is going to naturally make people think that it is taking so much time because there is so much in it and so much keeps changing so they have to redo parts of it.

    This rising expectation is not a good thing if it is just a basic update that looks like it could have been written in an hour or less. Nor will it be good if it is fairly generic, like saying they've made a lot of progress. Or even saying they made a lot of progress on some specific things but nothing we can measure.

    It was a long time ago, but once they posted something about the percentage of testers that had a problem. That, to me, was useful info. After all, ultimately GR is going to mainly depend on what problems exist, what percentage experience them, and how often they happen to those who do experience them.

    For example, if you have 5% with problems, that may be considered to many if the problem is serious and happens all the time. But if it is serious, yet only pops up maybe once a week, briefly, then it may be acceptable. So I'd like to have some idea about those numbers. If nothing else, if the same info was given in future updates, we could see how much better things have gotten.
    Which takes 6 words from his post and puts an entirely 180 degree slant on what he said. It was pointed out (by me) that perhaps you’d missed his sarcasm, but you steadfastly clung to the notion that you knew it was sarcastic...

    ...if you were aware it was sarcastic, then you entirely misrepresented his post to skew 180 degrees entirely from what he clearly wrote... Not only that, but you’re sticking to your guns and claiming you aren’t misrepresenting his post... Christ, it isn’t even difficult to look up, it’s all on this page bwahahahahaha...! 

    Doing what you did (skewing someone’s post and re-spinning it 180 degrees) and claiming it is not what it most clearly is would be... ummmmm... what’s the word I’m searching for...? Someone around here tosses it about frequently... That’s it; “dishonest” (quite the dictionary definition of it fwiw... ooooooh, that’s gotta sting... [wince])
  • Reply 1612 of 1615
    Ethics is not black and white, juvenile opinions of certain people notwithstanding.

    Context and circumstances change. When the gift was originally offered, it was in the context of imminent release.

    In fact, it was always offered in the context of an imminent release, so in hindsight, it was always a deception.

    The purpose of the 'top gift' is not to reward early adopters. The purpose of the 'top gift' is to be a secret which Mark Knighton controls, so early adopters have a harder time deciding whether or not to leave their money in his hands.

    The 'top gift' is not a technology secret. It's not a trade secret. It will do no unjust harm to Waytools to make it known. If the gift is not so good, perhaps other customers will cancel their orders because it's not worth waiting for, but that would be perfectly fair to those customers who paid Mark Knighton a long time ago.

    Why should customers be kept in the dark for so long? It's unethical to let this secret continue to be used by Mark Knighton as a tool of manipulation.

    It's time for a Tregger with a conscience to reveal the secret 'top gift' so Mark can't use it against his customers anymore.

    You bring up an interesting point, and one I’ve felt for a long time; withholding information on what the “free gift” is removes important data on a purchasing/refund decision. It’s a valid question as to whether withholding such information is unethical.

    I also wonder whether it is unethical to enforce that particular portion of a Treg NDA... I mean, Treggers are even allowed to talk about system flaws discovered (after allowing a week for the engineers to address any issues discovered...) but the contents about a “free gift” is a verboten topic... it seems out of step...

    ...I’m not a commercial lawyer specialising in corporate/contract ethics, but it does seem a little odd to me... I also freely admit that if I knew what the “free gift” was, I may well decide to cancel my purchase for a refund, but the not knowing (i.e. lack of information...) causes difficulty making a reasonable determination on a decision based on overall value...

    ...if it’s just a bobble-head doll, then I’ll know I can go the refund route...  ;)
  • Reply 1612 of 1615
    weirdosmurf said:

     so it’s just deliberate misrepresentation then... [shrug]
    Except I didn't misrepresent anyone.

    But here you are, once again making it about me :)
    Au contraire mon cherie... Akorot wrote the following post:
    arkorott said:

    Wow, his should quite an update...an update that requires an update after being promised so many weeks ago and way past their self imposed deadline.
    So as you said they at the very least should announce GR, on top of the cure for cancer, discovery of the warp drive, launch of Half Life 3, and the last 2 pending GRRM GoT novels.

    edit: have you read at WTF of people increasing their order units on account of the update of the update ?!
    Now we have confirmation we will get all these goodies and more ! (and a secret, secret gift...)
    You then followed quoting him with this:

    arkorott said:

    Wow, his should quite an update
    That is one of the points I've tried to make to WT. The longer it takes to get the update out - missing many time projections along the way - it is going to naturally make people think that it is taking so much time because there is so much in it and so much keeps changing so they have to redo parts of it.

    This rising expectation is not a good thing if it is just a basic update that looks like it could have been written in an hour or less. Nor will it be good if it is fairly generic, like saying they've made a lot of progress. Or even saying they made a lot of progress on some specific things but nothing we can measure.

    It was a long time ago, but once they posted something about the percentage of testers that had a problem. That, to me, was useful info. After all, ultimately GR is going to mainly depend on what problems exist, what percentage experience them, and how often they happen to those who do experience them.

    For example, if you have 5% with problems, that may be considered to many if the problem is serious and happens all the time. But if it is serious, yet only pops up maybe once a week, briefly, then it may be acceptable. So I'd like to have some idea about those numbers. If nothing else, if the same info was given in future updates, we could see how much better things have gotten.
    Which takes 6 words from his post and puts an entirely 180 degree slant on what he said. It was pointed out (by me) that perhaps you’d missed his sarcasm, but you steadfastly clung to the notion that you knew it was sarcastic...

    ...if you were aware it was sarcastic, then you entirely misrepresented his post to skew 180 degrees entirely from what he clearly wrote... Not only that, but you’re sticking to your guns and claiming you aren’t misrepresenting his post... Christ, it isn’t even difficult to look up, it’s all on this page bwahahahahaha...! 

    Doing what you did (skewing someone’s post and re-spinning it 180 degrees) and claiming it is not what it most clearly is would be... ummmmm... what’s the word I’m searching for...? Someone around here tosses it about frequently... That’s it; “dishonest” (quite the dictionary definition of it fwiw... ooooooh, that’s gotta sting... [wince])
  • Reply 1612 of 1615
    Ethics is not black and white, juvenile opinions of certain people notwithstanding.

    Context and circumstances change. When the gift was originally offered, it was in the context of imminent release.

    In fact, it was always offered in the context of an imminent release, so in hindsight, it was always a deception.

    The purpose of the 'top gift' is not to reward early adopters. The purpose of the 'top gift' is to be a secret which Mark Knighton controls, so early adopters have a harder time deciding whether or not to leave their money in his hands.

    The 'top gift' is not a technology secret. It's not a trade secret. It will do no unjust harm to Waytools to make it known. If the gift is not so good, perhaps other customers will cancel their orders because it's not worth waiting for, but that would be perfectly fair to those customers who paid Mark Knighton a long time ago.

    Why should customers be kept in the dark for so long? It's unethical to let this secret continue to be used by Mark Knighton as a tool of manipulation.

    It's time for a Tregger with a conscience to reveal the secret 'top gift' so Mark can't use it against his customers anymore.

    You bring up an interesting point, and one I’ve felt for a long time; withholding information on what the “free gift” is removes important data on a purchasing/refund decision. It’s a valid question as to whether withholding such information is unethical.

    I also wonder whether it is unethical to enforce that particular portion of a Treg NDA... I mean, Treggers are even allowed to talk about system flaws discovered (after allowing a week for the engineers to address any issues discovered...) but the contents about a “free gift” is a verboten topic... it seems out of step...

    ...I’m not a commercial lawyer specialising in corporate/contract ethics, but it does seem a little odd to me... I also freely admit that if I knew what the “free gift” was, I may well decide to cancel my purchase for a refund, but the not knowing (i.e. lack of information...) causes difficulty making a reasonable determination on a decision based on overall value...

    ...if it’s just a bobble-head doll, then I’ll know I can go the refund route...  ;)
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