Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
I don't know what "not selling well" means. Is it not meeting (too) rosey expectations or actually failing to sell in any meaningful numbers. Maybe Google quoted the actual numbers someplace.
I noticed in the AI article that the Pixel line was now ranked at number three in US premium sales which doesn't seem to equate with "not selling" period.
"Does Google want significant market share? If so, is it willing to spend whatever it takes and take on Samsung, Huawei, Oppo etc etc? If not, why is it making the phone? Is it really having any real influence on the rest of the industry? Is option value enough?"
Number three in Premium sales at low volumes is a thing, I guess.
Yes, it could be.
Maybe they have what they believe to be rationale plans to supplant Sammy at #2. Maybe not. Perhaps they're satisfied for now with how the line is progressing even if investors want to grumble and thus some excuse to appease them must be made. Or maybe they're not. The line isn't close to 4 years old yet, and building mindshare and relationships takes time. At this stage Apple's iPhone was playing long distance second fiddle to Nokia and essentially tied with Blackberry. The Android OEM's were even farther behind.
Things do change, sometimes for the better and sometimes for worse.
The overall market is in decline, which is not a great sign for a four year old line, contending with vigorous competitors. I have my doubts that pricing cuts will be a great driver for sales, as it is as likely that the competition will offer price cuts as a counter, but maybe that will be the fix until Google delivers a competitive "premium" or "flagship" phone as the Pixel 4. Most comments wrt the Google Pixel 3 have been "meh" hardware.
It isn't like I am the only one to have predicted a consolidation in the Android OS device Market, but that is exactly what is/will be taking place as the overall smartphone market matures, and enters decline. Apple has already acknowledged this, and has reacted with longer life cycles, and trade-ins to encourage sales, and even price cuts in a few markets.
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
I don't know what "not selling well" means. Is it not meeting (too) rosey expectations or actually failing to sell in any meaningful numbers. Maybe Google quoted the actual numbers someplace.
I noticed in the AI article that the Pixel line was now ranked at number three in US premium sales which doesn't seem to equate with "not selling" period.
"Does Google want significant market share? If so, is it willing to spend whatever it takes and take on Samsung, Huawei, Oppo etc etc? If not, why is it making the phone? Is it really having any real influence on the rest of the industry? Is option value enough?"
Number three in Premium sales at low volumes is a thing, I guess.
Yes, it could be.
Maybe they have what they believe to be rationale plans to supplant Sammy at #2. Maybe not. Perhaps they're satisfied for now with how the line is progressing even if investors want to grumble and thus some excuse to appease them must be made. Or maybe they're not. The line isn't close to 4 years old yet, and building mindshare and relationships takes time. At this stage Apple's iPhone was playing long distance second fiddle to Nokia and essentially tied with Blackberry. The Android OEM's were even farther behind.
Things do change, sometimes for the better and sometimes for worse.
The overall market is in decline, which is not a great sign for a four year old line, contending with vigorous competitors. I have my doubts that pricing cuts will be a great driver for sales, as it is as likely that the competition will offer price cuts as a counter, but maybe that will be the fix until Google delivers a competitive "premium" or "flagship" phone as the Pixel 4. Most comments wrt the Google Pixel 3 have been "meh" hardware.
It isn't like I am the only one to have predicted a consolidation in the Android OS device Market, but that is exactly what is/will be taking place as the overall smartphone market matures, and enters decline. Apple has already acknowledged this, and has reacted with longer life cycles, and trade-ins to encourage sales, and even price cuts in a few markets.
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
Just because something isn't winning, doesn't mean that it isn't a challenger.
Then even the lamest-selling, generic android knockoff is an iPhone-challenger. C'mon. Serious challengers only.
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
I don't know what "not selling well" means.
LOL
Kinda like some folks claiming the iPhone "not selling well" in China. Example: You and Avon might not agree on what that means. In fact what DOES that mean StrangeDays?
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
I don't know what "not selling well" means.
LOL
I actually agree with Gatorguy on this. It's the details of the "not selling well" that I am interested in, rather than the absolute numbers, which aren't great for sure.
While I'm not a Android OS user, there certainly is a valued place in the smartphone world for a pure Android OS experience.
I actually agree with Gatorguy on this. It's the details of the "not selling well" that I am interested in, rather than the absolute numbers, which aren't great for sure.
While I'm not a Android OS user, there certainly is a valued place in the smartphone world for a pure Android OS experience.
Google has been trying the pure Google experience for about 9 years now. They tried with the Nexus models, they tried with Motorola, they tried with the pure Google Android installs on flagships from various brands, and they are trying with Pixels.
The value of the software in of itself isn’t that high and can’t carry the water over sales channels, carrier agreements, service and support. If they are serious about it, at minimum, it needs to be in all retail stores from carriers, and I don’t think it has ever been. It’s never no one feature being able to carry the day, and there needs to be a holistic strategy.
Maybe if they are serious of about their MVNO services, actually build out retail, a much larger set of people would be willing to get into the brand? But as it is now, it is mostly a hobby to them. It definitely has more mindshare among the mediarati then say LG or Sony, but in terms of what the customers see, I don’t think they favor Google over an LG or a Sony, or an HTC. They really can’t break out of the pack without more effort.
I actually agree with Gatorguy on this. It's the details of the "not selling well" that I am interested in, rather than the absolute numbers, which aren't great for sure.
While I'm not a Android OS user, there certainly is a valued place in the smartphone world for a pure Android OS experience.
Google has been trying the pure Google experience for about 9 years now. They tried with the Nexus models, they tried with Motorola, they tried with the pure Google Android installs on flagships from various brands, and they are trying with Pixels.
The value of the software in of itself isn’t that high and can’t carry the water over sales channels, carrier agreements, service and support. If they are serious about it, at minimum, it needs to be in all retail stores from carriers, and I don’t think it has ever been. It’s never no one feature being able to carry the day, and there needs to be a holistic strategy.
Maybe if they are serious of about their MVNO services, actually build out retail, a much larger set of people would be willing to get into the brand? But as it is now, it is mostly a hobby to them. It definitely has more mindshare among the mediarati then say LG or Sony, but in terms of what the customers see, I don’t think they favor Google over an LG or a Sony, or an HTC. They really can’t break out of the pack without more effort.
The Pixels are Google's first real foray into building a smartphone brand that stands on it's own. All the Nexus models flowed out of Google's need to have thousands of platform/OS test devices anyway, and trying to retail a few became a natural extension. In general all were pretty much a re-badge of some OEM's smartphone model, manufactured and engineered by the likes of HTC and LG with a little Sammy sprinkled in one or two years. This past year is the first time they were not. In fact this fall may be the first where EVERYTHING in the Pixel phone (as much as can be anyway) is a Google engineered and designed element.
So it's only been in the past four years or so where Google appears to become convinced they need to work harder at moving beyond a reliance on advertising as their only real source of income. IMO they're serious if inexperienced at marketing hardware as an identifiable and integrated product line, building a brand from the ground up. They may never get there, lots of companies fail at establishing some specific product as a viable entrant, but it doesn't mean it's just a hobby.
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
Just because something isn't winning, doesn't mean that it isn't a challenger.
AppleInsider doesn’t write that Sony is an iPhone challenger. The same goes for LG. Andy Rubin’s phone was considered a challenger to iPhone by AppleInsider even though 99.9% of the readers laughed at the consideration. So... “challenger” is selectively used by AppleInsider to promote specific Apple competitors instead of all Apple competitors.
I actually agree with Gatorguy on this. It's the details of the "not selling well" that I am interested in, rather than the absolute numbers, which aren't great for sure.
While I'm not a Android OS user, there certainly is a valued place in the smartphone world for a pure Android OS experience.
Google has been trying the pure Google experience for about 9 years now. They tried with the Nexus models, they tried with Motorola, they tried with the pure Google Android installs on flagships from various brands, and they are trying with Pixels.
The value of the software in of itself isn’t that high and can’t carry the water over sales channels, carrier agreements, service and support. If they are serious about it, at minimum, it needs to be in all retail stores from carriers, and I don’t think it has ever been.
You're correct it has not been, instead marketed as a Verizon exclusive. That won't be the case with new models. Those have already been announced for TMobile, and today docs at Sprint indicate they'll also be promoting them. ATT may still be a holdout.
An insightful Fast Company interview with Google's head of hardware linked below where he discusses where they hope to go with hardware. One of the best points he made was that some of the best and most useful innovations may not require your smartphone to be laden with expensive components at a premium price. Google may not be in a league with Apple on design but their forte is software and AI which could enable them to sell mid-priced phones with top-line features.
BTW contrary to a recent AI article he says Pixelbooks aren't going away.
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
I don't know what "not selling well" means.
LOL
Kinda like some folks claiming the iPhone "not selling well" in China. Example: You and Avon might not agree on what that means. In fact what DOES that mean StrangeDays?
You’re putting words in my mouth. I’m not now nor was talking about iphone sales in china. But way to move them goalposts! To the left! No, the right!
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
I don't know what "not selling well" means.
LOL
I actually agree with Gatorguy on this. It's the details of the "not selling well" that I am interested in, rather than the absolute numbers, which aren't great for sure.
While I'm not a Android OS user, there certainly is a valued place in the smartphone world for a pure Android OS experience.
Doesn’t change the absolute numbers — Pixels don’t sell well.
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
I don't know what "not selling well" means.
LOL
I actually agree with Gatorguy on this. It's the details of the "not selling well" that I am interested in, rather than the absolute numbers, which aren't great for sure.
While I'm not a Android OS user, there certainly is a valued place in the smartphone world for a pure Android OS experience.
Doesn’t change the absolute numbers — Pixels don’t sell well.
Pixels are sold in very few countries - by design. They were never going to hit industry highs with sales.
It should be clear to all that Google is simply gearing up at this stage. Learning from manufacturing, distribution, support, carriers, errors etc.
Slowly putting all the pieces together. I wouldn't write them off for a while yet.
Less than two years ago you were howling in derision at my suggestion that Huawei could be a threat to the smartphone duopoly. How things have changed! The duopoly is no more, save for the US but what could happen if Google goes nuclear with a solid worldwide release with specific targeting of the US market?
How might that affect Apple's iPhone business?
No 5G. No folding phone. No mid range 'new' offerings. The S10 seeing discounts and promotions prior to the Note 10 release and Google making a concerted effort to carve a decent slice of the pie. Out of the US the Mate 30 is coming plus two Honor flagships.
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
Just because something isn't winning, doesn't mean that it isn't a challenger.
Wow completely 100% disagree with administrator in this one. If you have a very small slice of the pie then you are not a challenger. So every boxer is a challenger to the champ - I think not.
Really want to like Pixels but their performance drop off over time is pretty terrible. Great cameras can't overcome that issue. There's just no excuse since other Android OEM's don't suffer performance drops as severely as Pixels... and they're running skins.
I'm not seeing much performance drop-off on my OG Pixel, but I don't use it for intensive tasks best done with another device anyway. But yeah I get for some folks that might be their only computing device so different needs. I don't see the new mid-rangers as iPhone threats anyway. They're intended for a different market segment than Apple generally plays in.
In my case I've personally chosen to stick with a second hand Pixel for the updates, feature enhancements unique to the Pixel line, and security. For those things it's great. The sub-$200 pricing was a bonus. I could certainly afford a brand new premium priced smartphone, but it would not serve any particular purpose to do so. They wouldn't fill any need this older model doesn't already.
Any idea why Pixels aren’t selling very well at all? Everything I read indicates really poor sales. Yesterday I read an article saying Google is blaming Verizon for it. The headline claims the Pixel 3a is “challenging” the iPhone. How can it be challenging the iPhone when it’s not selling.
I don't know what "not selling well" means.
LOL
I actually agree with Gatorguy on this. It's the details of the "not selling well" that I am interested in, rather than the absolute numbers, which aren't great for sure.
While I'm not a Android OS user, there certainly is a valued place in the smartphone world for a pure Android OS experience.
Doesn’t change the absolute numbers — Pixels don’t sell well.
How many have they sold? With only a single carrier who has exclusive sales rights (Verizon) it should not be a surprise that sales might be underwhelming from an Apple perspective.
With that said it makes it all the more impressive IMO that the Pixel line would now be #3 in the US in premium handset sales considering their competitors are offered on all the big carriers. The Google Pixel 4 may be the first Pixel flagship that’s available via US carriers other than Verizon, and the upcoming mid-range line has already been announced as available on others. Sales should be improving.
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It isn't like I am the only one to have predicted a consolidation in the Android OS device Market, but that is exactly what is/will be taking place as the overall smartphone market matures, and enters decline. Apple has already acknowledged this, and has reacted with longer life cycles, and trade-ins to encourage sales, and even price cuts in a few markets.
Then even the lamest-selling, generic android knockoff is an iPhone-challenger. C'mon. Serious challengers only.
LOL
While I'm not a Android OS user, there certainly is a valued place in the smartphone world for a pure Android OS experience.
The value of the software in of itself isn’t that high and can’t carry the water over sales channels, carrier agreements, service and support. If they are serious about it, at minimum, it needs to be in all retail stores from carriers, and I don’t think it has ever been. It’s never no one feature being able to carry the day, and there needs to be a holistic strategy.
Maybe if they are serious of about their MVNO services, actually build out retail, a much larger set of people would be willing to get into the brand? But as it is now, it is mostly a hobby to them. It definitely has more mindshare among the mediarati then say LG or Sony, but in terms of what the customers see, I don’t think they favor Google over an LG or a Sony, or an HTC. They really can’t break out of the pack without more effort.
So it's only been in the past four years or so where Google appears to become convinced they need to work harder at moving beyond a reliance on advertising as their only real source of income. IMO they're serious if inexperienced at marketing hardware as an identifiable and integrated product line, building a brand from the ground up. They may never get there, lots of companies fail at establishing some specific product as a viable entrant, but it doesn't mean it's just a hobby.
BTW contrary to a recent AI article he says Pixelbooks aren't going away.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90343434/three-years-in-googles-hardware-honcho-is-just-getting-started
It should be clear to all that Google is simply gearing up at this stage. Learning from manufacturing, distribution, support, carriers, errors etc.
Slowly putting all the pieces together. I wouldn't write them off for a while yet.
Less than two years ago you were howling in derision at my suggestion that Huawei could be a threat to the smartphone duopoly. How things have changed! The duopoly is no more, save for the US but what could happen if Google goes nuclear with a solid worldwide release with specific targeting of the US market?
How might that affect Apple's iPhone business?
No 5G. No folding phone. No mid range 'new' offerings. The S10 seeing discounts and promotions prior to the Note 10 release and Google making a concerted effort to carve a decent slice of the pie. Out of the US the Mate 30 is coming plus two Honor flagships.
As I've said before. Thank God for competition.
With that said it makes it all the more impressive IMO that the Pixel line would now be #3 in the US in premium handset sales considering their competitors are offered on all the big carriers. The Google Pixel 4 may be the first Pixel flagship that’s available via US carriers other than Verizon, and the upcoming mid-range line has already been announced as available on others. Sales should be improving.