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    canukstormcanukstorm Posts: 2,782member
    Because when Apple’s MO and greatest source of revenue/profits is selling pricy hardware then they can push the privacy and security angle. Now that they’re moving in to subscription services they’ll do whatever is necessary to grow that business model. Also for all of Apple’s bravado around privacy they still take billions from Google for it to be the default search engine on iOS. And then most downloaded free apps are usually from Google or Facebook. Man DED is obsessed with Google. Is it possible for him to write an editorial that isn’t just a long way of saying Apple good, Google bad?
    "Because when Apple’s MO and greatest source of revenue/profits is selling pricy hardware then they can push the privacy and security angle."

    They didn't use the privacy / security angle because of pricy hardware but because they're getting roasted in the next important battleground that is cloud / AI / ML / ambient computing.  Hopefully the new AI SVP and the team that he's building will help alleviate that but right now Apple is significantly behind.
    That too. But when your money mostly comes from hardware sales and not ML/AI services products it’s easier to push the privacy angle. 
    Even though Apple doesn't directly make money off of AI / ML based services, it will need to significantly improve in this area if it wants to add value to its hardware and justify the premium prices.  The privacy / security angle is not enough.
    Nah. The premium prices are for the premium hardware. Keep your cheap plastic Pixel junk. The privacy fact is also something I'll pay for. Keep your google shadow profiles.
    "The premium prices are for the premium hardware"

    Then you're overpaying for hardware.
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  • Reply 62 of 62
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,712member

    gatorguy said:
    bb-15 said:
    - It is trivial to avoid Apple data collection for ads in the News app. 
    I don’t use it. 
    - With the App Store, I accept that there will be targeted ads for my searches. But that is a minimal intrusion. 
    I don’t use Google search (instead use DuckDuckGo).
    It is easy to limit ad tracking in iOS for its main services.

    * Compare that to Android/Google services where the economics are based on tracking the users through unique identifiers & targeting ads. 

    * Typical Android phones are directing users to Google services. Google’s mines data from “free” services like Gmail, Chrome, Google Maps & Google Drive

    You should update both your pretty old link and your understanding of GMail. Google doesn't data mine it for ads. They don't "data-mine" Google Drive for ads either AFAIK as it's encrypted from the time it leaves your computer/smartphone/whatever, but I'll research that to be sure. Of course none of the paid GSuite services which includes Gmail, Drive, Docs etc are used for ad monetization anyway. 

    It's actually pretty simple to turn off the tracking that does occur. Simply pause your Google account, ie sign out. You can always sign back in if you need to for some specific Google service. 
    Dear Google employee/parent,

    You should update your understanding go Gmail. Google does data mine it, for purposes we cannot know:

    https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/05/17/gmail-tracks-purchas-history
    LOL... Grasp at straws much?

    So two "journalists" (perhaps the term should be used lightly?) are not sure what something is or why, but not actually concerned enough to bother checking. Worse Meg Graham, one of those two, has contacts at Google and simply had to ask. Doesn't keep them from implying it must be something devious tho even if knowing nothing about it, Gruber being Gruber, or you being bothered to do a two minute search about what it is before relaying it. If Google wanted to "mine" the data they wouldn't need to give the user a category for it in order to do so. It's right there alongside "Subscriptions" and "Payment Methods"

    Common sense can be your friend.  :/ 

    The truth shall set you free... 
    https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/comment/3158972/#Comment_3158972

    Haters and lazy journalists....
    Both make lousy sources of good information. 

    EDIT: So they DID check afterall and found nothing devious or sneaky, and they acknowledge Google isn't using it for ads. With that said there's no clear toggle at this point that disallows categorizing subscriptions or purchases for those concerned about it being there, even if the only one who can see it is you. That seems to be their concern. Fair enough. 
    edited May 2019
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