So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
100% were defective. No PR disaster.
Meanwhile "Apple failed" for not releasing AirPower.
Try again.
No need to try again. Review units went out worldwide. You heard about a handful of problems. This review unit went back without exhibiting any problems:
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
Maybe I'm old fashioned.
Your defense of the yet unreleased Mate X is noted as the subtext of your defense of Samsung's Galaxy Fold.
Sucks that Huawei decided to wait to release their Mate X when they could have pimped Samsung's return to market, given your extensive defense of their "delay".
For the record, the Galaxy Fold was so poorly designed, that people thought they were peeling off a protective cover...and the mechanicals of the hinges were failing virtually overnight.
But true that these were "evaluation" units, not units shipped to customers, as if there is a difference in production.
It was just a reactionary excuse on his part. It made no rational sense.
As bad as Huawei is, Samsung gets all the excuses in the world.
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
100% were defective. No PR disaster.
Meanwhile "Apple failed" for not releasing AirPower.
Try again.
No need to try again. Review units went out worldwide. You heard about a handful of problems. This review unit went back without exhibiting any problems:
My response to the Air Power issue was literally along the lines of 'shit happens. It isn't a big deal'.
My response to the Air Power non release was that it was technically impossible at that time to make a charger with the flexibility Apple was asking of it.
It was physics problem that couldn't be practically transitioned to a product during the engineering phase, so it was killed.
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
Maybe I'm old fashioned.
Oh, by the way, Rev A fell on its own merits.
But good luck on Rev B.
But as no product has actually shipped...
Better to wait for it, right?
So, it was fortunate for Samsung that the design was so poor that a high number failed immediately, causing Samsung to dither, and then cancel the ship dates.
Prediction: there's no f-ing way they magically re-engineered this thing within a couple months. It's still crap, it's still a broken design that they can't make work in the real world, and it will fail hilariously.
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
They presold them and AT&T just refunded their customers this week. If the break wasn’t so immediate and found by the media reviewing them they were shipping them right to them. The fall out for Apple would have been disastrous without a doubt. Every news station would have been reminding you about it daily and Samsung would have commercials out poking fun by now.
I forgot about that! Didn't AT&T issue additional gift cards or something? Just looked it up and yes, AT&T will lose an additional $100 on every pre-order cancelled. Best Buy also had pre-orders. Again "had Apple"..... We would have seen more than commercials by only Samsung. Every other iWannabe would be having a field day on Apple. Every company would have an ad poking fun at Apple and ads mocking cancelled pre-orders making Apple fans look stupid.
On the article about AT&T, iKnockoff users are bashing iPad Pro and STILL mentioning #Bengate as a similar disaster......
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
Maybe I'm old fashioned.
Oh, by the way, Rev A fell on its own merits.
But good luck on Rev B.
But as no product has actually shipped...
Better to wait for it, right?
So, it was fortunate for Samsung that the design was so poor that a high number failed immediately, causing Samsung to dither, and then cancel the ship dates.
Do I have that about right?
As I mentioned earlier, Samsung gets all the excuses in the world.
Prediction: there's no f-ing way they magically re-engineered this thing within a couple months. It's still crap, it's still a broken design that they can't make work in the real world, and it will fail hilariously.
I don't discount that Samsung obtained useful information from the failure; that's a part of the development process, but the fact that the failures occurred so quickly after the release of the initial evaluation units, defines "rush to market".
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
Maybe I'm old fashioned.
No... I'm old enough to where being "old fashioned" actually meant something.
You're confusing "old fashioned" with just being ignorant. It didn't matter if it did not officially "ship". Samsung put this flaming turd out with the intent of selling it to the masses and it crashed and burned spectacularly. Regardless of your amazing ability to fabricate a narrative to suit your fanboy agenda, there is no scenario anywhere where a company thinks it's a good idea to introduce a product like this and then recall it after a few days.
People didn't need to use one. It didn't work. It was junk. It was enough to even make Huawei blink with theirs, irrelevant that your theory is that Huawei did it because with the competition gone, it did not have to release another botched product.
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
Maybe I'm old fashioned.
Your defense of the yet unreleased Mate X is noted as the subtext of your defense of Samsung's Galaxy Fold.
Sucks that Huawei decided to wait to release their Mate X when they could have pimped Samsung's return to market, given your extensive defense of their "delay".
For the record, the Galaxy Fold was so poorly designed, that people thought they were peeling off a protective cover...and the mechanicals of the hinges were failing virtually overnight.
But true that these were "evaluation" units, not units shipped to customers, as if there is a difference in production.
Kind of adds weight to those other potential reasons mentioned.
And it wasn't a 'defence'. I put some facts on the table and speculated a bit.
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
Maybe I'm old fashioned.
Your defense of the yet unreleased Mate X is noted as the subtext of your defense of Samsung's Galaxy Fold.
Sucks that Huawei decided to wait to release their Mate X when they could have pimped Samsung's return to market, given your extensive defense of their "delay".
For the record, the Galaxy Fold was so poorly designed, that people thought they were peeling off a protective cover...and the mechanicals of the hinges were failing virtually overnight.
But true that these were "evaluation" units, not units shipped to customers, as if there is a difference in production.
Kind of adds weight to those other potential reasons mentioned.
And it wasn't a 'defence'. I put some facts on the table and speculated a bit.
I got my degree in Mechanical Engineering more than 3 decades ago, and I work in manufacturing everyday, so when you speak wrt manufacturing or design, I roll my eyes.
Really, this would be a good time to just shut the fuck up and stop "speculating" with your PR skillset.
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
Maybe I'm old fashioned.
I have used one. One of the people I work with was needing to take some video of an experiment, so over a couple of days I have used his fairly new Samsung phone several times. Also previously I've had to make calls with a friends Samsung. Pass. They feel cheep to me. They don't feel like a solid product in my hand. If I had to get an Android phone I'd go with a Pixel or an LG. At least they feel like something worth paying a few hundred for.
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
Maybe I'm old fashioned.
Your defense of the yet unreleased Mate X is noted as the subtext of your defense of Samsung's Galaxy Fold.
Sucks that Huawei decided to wait to release their Mate X when they could have pimped Samsung's return to market, given your extensive defense of their "delay".
For the record, the Galaxy Fold was so poorly designed, that people thought they were peeling off a protective cover...and the mechanicals of the hinges were failing virtually overnight.
But true that these were "evaluation" units, not units shipped to customers, as if there is a difference in production.
Kind of adds weight to those other potential reasons mentioned.
And it wasn't a 'defence'. I put some facts on the table and speculated a bit.
I got my degree in Mechanical Engineering more than 3 decades ago, and I work in manufacturing everyday, so when you speak wrt manufacturing or design, I roll my eyes.
Really, this would be a good time to just shut the fuck up and stop "speculating" with your PR skillset.
What are you trying to say?
In the absence of real information all we have left is speculation. Perhaps in your engineering degree world things are different but out in the real world you don't need an engineering degree to speak on the Mate X delay. Unless of course you have seen Huawei make a specific and unique claim to an engineering design problem (and you haven't).
In the absence of that (and that is the case - there is no such reference) there are many reasons (and not mutually exclusive either) that come into play and they include areas that were not even touched on in the news of the Mate X delay and potentially far removed from manufacturing and/or engineering.
Now, I'm lucky because I get to speak to a lot of people from different technical and non technical fields and at a high level. Being able to draw from a wealth of opinion gives me more than enough confidence to speak on many subjects at this level.
Maybe I should roll my eyes too whenever you talk about anything you don't have a degree in. LOL!
So Apple gets a media storm, memes, countless hate videos for less than 1% bent iPhones while Samsung gets away with 100% defected bent phones that break?
No. In a word.
Samsung didn't ship any and 100% didn't break. Also, if they are near ready to launch it is probably that the fixes were minor. Probably important but minor.
We'll now have to wait for the new official date.
Still a PR disaster but the phone itself might not be as much of a hardware failure as some thought. When it reaches users, we'll know soon enough.
It's a disaster in every way. But I love that you think it's somehow a good thing that they can't make a decent shipping product. I don't know why Samsung would have a Fanboy - but it's nice to meet you.
Considering you've never even used one, your claim is a bold one.
I prefer to let the device stand or fall on its own merits.
Maybe I'm old fashioned.
Your defense of the yet unreleased Mate X is noted as the subtext of your defense of Samsung's Galaxy Fold.
Sucks that Huawei decided to wait to release their Mate X when they could have pimped Samsung's return to market, given your extensive defense of their "delay".
For the record, the Galaxy Fold was so poorly designed, that people thought they were peeling off a protective cover...and the mechanicals of the hinges were failing virtually overnight.
But true that these were "evaluation" units, not units shipped to customers, as if there is a difference in production.
Kind of adds weight to those other potential reasons mentioned.
And it wasn't a 'defence'. I put some facts on the table and speculated a bit.
I got my degree in Mechanical Engineering more than 3 decades ago, and I work in manufacturing everyday, so when you speak wrt manufacturing or design, I roll my eyes.
Really, this would be a good time to just shut the fuck up and stop "speculating" with your PR skillset.
What are you trying to say?
In the absence of real information all we have left is speculation. Perhaps in your engineering degree world things are different but out in the real world you don't need an engineering degree to speak on the Mate X delay. Unless of course you have seen Huawei make a specific and unique claim to an engineering design problem (and you haven't).
In the absence of that (and that is the case - there is no such reference) there are many reasons (and not mutually exclusive either) that come into play and they include areas that were not even touched on in the news of the Mate X delay and potentially far removed from manufacturing and/or engineering.
Now, I'm lucky because I get to speak to a lot of people from different technical and non technical fields and at a high level. Being able to draw from a wealth of opinion gives me more than enough confidence to speak on many subjects at this level.
Maybe I should roll my eyes too whenever you talk about anything you don't have a degree in. LOL!
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But good luck on Rev B.
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_is_recalling_all_galaxy_fold_review_units-news-36706.php
My response to the Air Power issue was literally along the lines of 'shit happens. It isn't a big deal'.
It was just a reactionary excuse on his part. It made no rational sense.
As bad as Huawei is, Samsung gets all the excuses in the world.
It was physics problem that couldn't be practically transitioned to a product during the engineering phase, so it was killed.
I totally missed that and had to go back to read it again.
Better to wait for it, right?
Do I have that about right?
I forgot about that! Didn't AT&T issue additional gift cards or something?
Just looked it up and yes, AT&T will lose an additional $100 on every pre-order cancelled. Best Buy also had pre-orders. Again "had Apple"..... We would have seen more than commercials by only Samsung. Every other iWannabe would be having a field day on Apple. Every company would have an ad poking fun at Apple and ads mocking cancelled pre-orders making Apple fans look stupid.
On the article about AT&T, iKnockoff users are bashing iPad Pro and STILL mentioning #Bengate as a similar disaster......
As I mentioned earlier, Samsung gets all the excuses in the world.
People didn't need to use one. It didn't work. It was junk. It was enough to even make Huawei blink with theirs, irrelevant that your theory is that Huawei did it because with the competition gone, it did not have to release another botched product.
And it wasn't a 'defence'. I put some facts on the table and speculated a bit.
Really, this would be a good time to just shut the fuck up and stop "speculating" with your PR skillset.
In the absence of real information all we have left is speculation. Perhaps in your engineering degree world things are different but out in the real world you don't need an engineering degree to speak on the Mate X delay. Unless of course you have seen Huawei make a specific and unique claim to an engineering design problem (and you haven't).
In the absence of that (and that is the case - there is no such reference) there are many reasons (and not mutually exclusive either) that come into play and they include areas that were not even touched on in the news of the Mate X delay and potentially far removed from manufacturing and/or engineering.
Now, I'm lucky because I get to speak to a lot of people from different technical and non technical fields and at a high level. Being able to draw from a wealth of opinion gives me more than enough confidence to speak on many subjects at this level.
Maybe I should roll my eyes too whenever you talk about anything you don't have a degree in. LOL!