I wish Apple would just sort out their issue with nVidia. Not knocking ATI Radeon's here, but it would be nice to have the choice and it's Apple causing the block, not nVidia.
Simply not true. This is Nvidia who don’t allow their processors to be programmed at the “Metal” level. Apple as a computer producer has right to access and control a processor using up to the most granular elements of the processor’s instruction set. As such, Nvidia is a consumer company. It produces some consumer graphics cards, mostly for gaming, mining and alike. It is not an “OEM partner” to Apple like Intel, AMD, or Samsung.
I wish Apple would just sort out their issue with nVidia. Not knocking ATI Radeon's here, but it would be nice to have the choice and it's Apple causing the block, not nVidia.
Source? I don’t know why they don’t exist on Macs, but I’ve read it’s a dispute over drivers. What details do you have that settle the matter?
See the link I posted above. Hope it helps.
So what? The whole article you linked explains how Nvidia has spectacularly failed to be an OEM Partner. It just supports the fact that Nvidia is nothing more than a consumer graphics card company.
The article goes into the history of Apple and nVidia and gives some background which isn't bad to share. I too wish Apple could support nVidia on the Mac platform. All Apple has to do is say let's forget the disputes of the past and hash out a deal with nVidia if they choose to do so.
As a computer and operating system producer, Apple has right to control every aspect of the products it is selling, including the drivers.
Absolutely they do. That right ends with a purchase however. Apple does not have any right to choose what hardware is used with that computer, nor what software is run on it. It is my device, with which I shall do as I please. If that thing isn't sanctioned by Apple, boo boo I'm going to do it anyway. If Apple is artificially restricting software choice because of some stupid old spat with Nvidia then that is bad for everyone, and anticompetitive.
Absolutely you do as you please. Provided that you write your own driver !
I wish Apple would just sort out their issue with nVidia. Not knocking ATI Radeon's here, but it would be nice to have the choice and it's Apple causing the block, not nVidia.
Simply not true. This is Nvidia who don’t allow their processors to be programmed at the “Metal” level. Apple as a computer producer has right to access and control a processor using up to the most granular elements of the processor’s instruction set. As such, Nvidia is a consumer company. It produces some consumer graphics cards, mostly for gaming, mining and alike. It is not an “OEM partner” to Apple like Intel, AMD, or Samsung.
I wish Apple would just sort out their issue with nVidia. Not knocking ATI Radeon's here, but it would be nice to have the choice and it's Apple causing the block, not nVidia.
Source? I don’t know why they don’t exist on Macs, but I’ve read it’s a dispute over drivers. What details do you have that settle the matter?
See the link I posted above. Hope it helps.
So what? The whole article you linked explains how Nvidia has spectacularly failed to be an OEM Partner. It just supports the fact that Nvidia is nothing more than a consumer graphics card company.
The article goes into the history of Apple and nVidia and gives some background which isn't bad to share. I too wish Apple could support nVidia on the Mac platform. All Apple has to do is say let's forget the disputes of the past and hash out a deal with nVidia if they choose to do so.
As a computer and operating system producer, Apple has right to control every aspect of the products it is selling, including the drivers.
Absolutely they do. That right ends with a purchase however. Apple does not have any right to choose what hardware is used with that computer, nor what software is run on it. It is my device, with which I shall do as I please. If that thing isn't sanctioned by Apple, boo boo I'm going to do it anyway. If Apple is artificially restricting software choice because of some stupid old spat with Nvidia then that is bad for everyone, and anticompetitive.
Absolutely you do as you please. Provided that you write your own driver !
...which wouldn't be necessary if Apple wasn't being so obstructive.
I wish Apple would just sort out their issue with nVidia. Not knocking ATI Radeon's here, but it would be nice to have the choice and it's Apple causing the block, not nVidia.
Simply not true. This is Nvidia who don’t allow their processors to be programmed at the “Metal” level. Apple as a computer producer has right to access and control a processor using up to the most granular elements of the processor’s instruction set. As such, Nvidia is a consumer company. It produces some consumer graphics cards, mostly for gaming, mining and alike. It is not an “OEM partner” to Apple like Intel, AMD, or Samsung.
I wish Apple would just sort out their issue with nVidia. Not knocking ATI Radeon's here, but it would be nice to have the choice and it's Apple causing the block, not nVidia.
Source? I don’t know why they don’t exist on Macs, but I’ve read it’s a dispute over drivers. What details do you have that settle the matter?
See the link I posted above. Hope it helps.
So what? The whole article you linked explains how Nvidia has spectacularly failed to be an OEM Partner. It just supports the fact that Nvidia is nothing more than a consumer graphics card company.
The article goes into the history of Apple and nVidia and gives some background which isn't bad to share. I too wish Apple could support nVidia on the Mac platform. All Apple has to do is say let's forget the disputes of the past and hash out a deal with nVidia if they choose to do so.
As a computer and operating system producer, Apple has right to control every aspect of the products it is selling, including the drivers.
Absolutely they do. That right ends with a purchase however. Apple does not have any right to choose what hardware is used with that computer, nor what software is run on it. It is my device, with which I shall do as I please. If that thing isn't sanctioned by Apple, boo boo I'm going to do it anyway. If Apple is artificially restricting software choice because of some stupid old spat with Nvidia then that is bad for everyone, and anticompetitive.
Absolutely you do as you please. Provided that you write your own driver !
...which wouldn't be necessary if Apple wasn't being so obstructive.
I'm wondering if Apple is going to surprise us this October!
What if Apple is going to offer a smaller version of the new Mac Pro! Basically, a desktop Vs Tower with fewer slots and less RAM support.
More of a system for photographers and gamers! We don't need as deep RAM as video editing or deep VR/CAD workstations.
Basically, replacing the 2013 Mac Pro which while many people won't want to hear was a pretty good system for what it was! As one who owns one I love it but its too limiting from a graphics perspective. Thats why I think Apple would be smart to offer a Desktop Mac Pro!
These GPU's would play well in such a system. Just think, a Mac Pro for the rest of us!
I don’t think so, unfortunately. Here’s why:
The recently announced Mac Pro according to all the media pundits and shills are that this is for the Pro market, high end user. That doesn’t explain why you would have the “entry level” configuration with 256gb SSD, 580x pro - these configurations do not serve the high end Pro market! This is the configuration for the rest of us, staring at $5,999. Beyond that you have the iMac Pro.
I wish Apple would just sort out their issue with nVidia. Not knocking ATI Radeon's here, but it would be nice to have the choice and it's Apple causing the block, not nVidia.
Simply not true. This is Nvidia who don’t allow their processors to be programmed at the “Metal” level. Apple as a computer producer has right to access and control a processor using up to the most granular elements of the processor’s instruction set. As such, Nvidia is a consumer company. It produces some consumer graphics cards, mostly for gaming, mining and alike. It is not an “OEM partner” to Apple like Intel, AMD, or Samsung.
I wish Apple would just sort out their issue with nVidia. Not knocking ATI Radeon's here, but it would be nice to have the choice and it's Apple causing the block, not nVidia.
Source? I don’t know why they don’t exist on Macs, but I’ve read it’s a dispute over drivers. What details do you have that settle the matter?
See the link I posted above. Hope it helps.
So what? The whole article you linked explains how Nvidia has spectacularly failed to be an OEM Partner. It just supports the fact that Nvidia is nothing more than a consumer graphics card company.
The article goes into the history of Apple and nVidia and gives some background which isn't bad to share. I too wish Apple could support nVidia on the Mac platform. All Apple has to do is say let's forget the disputes of the past and hash out a deal with nVidia if they choose to do so.
As a computer and operating system producer, Apple has right to control every aspect of the products it is selling, including the drivers.
Absolutely they do. That right ends with a purchase however. Apple does not have any right to choose what hardware is used with that computer, nor what software is run on it. It is my device, with which I shall do as I please. If that thing isn't sanctioned by Apple, boo boo I'm going to do it anyway. If Apple is artificially restricting software choice because of some stupid old spat with Nvidia then that is bad for everyone, and anticompetitive.
Absolutely you do as you please. Provided that you write your own driver !
...which wouldn't be necessary if Apple wasn't being so obstructive.
Why would Apple comply with your DIY phantasms?
I know you're desperate to defend Apple's every decision, but Apple providing inferior AMD GPUs in their Macs is doing their customers a disservice. Nothing to do with DIY. You might want to check what "phantasms" means.
I wish Apple would just sort out their issue with nVidia. Not knocking ATI Radeon's here, but it would be nice to have the choice and it's Apple causing the block, not nVidia.
Simply not true. This is Nvidia who don’t allow their processors to be programmed at the “Metal” level. Apple as a computer producer has right to access and control a processor using up to the most granular elements of the processor’s instruction set. As such, Nvidia is a consumer company. It produces some consumer graphics cards, mostly for gaming, mining and alike. It is not an “OEM partner” to Apple like Intel, AMD, or Samsung.
Total BS. You clearly have no idea about Nvidia. Maybe look at their site first.
Funny, but no. The PCIe connector is on the top in the photo. That is traditionally "upside down" because in a normal desktop form factor, the slots are on the motherboard on the bottom of the case. So the PCIe connector is on the bottom of the card.
Funny, but no. The PCIe connector is on the top in the photo. That is traditionally "upside down" because in a normal desktop form factor, the slots are on the motherboard on the bottom of the case. So the PCIe connector is on the bottom of the card.
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The recently announced Mac Pro according to all the media pundits and shills are that this is for the Pro market, high end user. That doesn’t explain why you would have the “entry level” configuration with 256gb SSD, 580x pro - these configurations do not serve the high end Pro market! This is the configuration for the rest of us, staring at $5,999. Beyond that you have the iMac Pro.
Disappointing, I know.