I can see why they would move the front drive bays near the middle - as a lot of people place these machines on their desk. But it better be real quiet then.
Not good though when you want to place it on the floor.
"Decorative air intakes" - looks kinda like my old s900. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Not quite the minimalist design I like from Apple.
I hope Apple will not take these pictures down, I'd rather see something else coming.
It's going to somewhat suck if the biggest surprise of the summer is ruined now. But I couldn't help but look when I saw the link, I had to click it, I couldn't help.
Is there an Apple logo on the side, or just some sort of roundel? Could it be a really close 3rd party knock-off to which someone added a PPC (Amiga one?) board slopped in just to jerk our chains a little?
I hope not. I think the case is not too bad, but a little un Apple in the drive treatment and what I assume are 4 front facing ports?
<strong>Is there an Apple logo on the side, or just some sort of roundel? Could it be a really close 3rd party knock-off to which someone added a PPC (Amiga one?) board slopped in just to jerk our chains a little?
I hope not. I think the case is not too bad, but a little un Apple in the drive treatment and what I assume are 4 front facing ports?
I know I've seen that motherboard before.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I see the Apple on the side. I already pointed out that it's basically the same board as the red board we saw on eBay, which is distinctly Apple. Those 4 holes on the front are vents.
It looks like the PCI slots are on the top. That is different than the current machines. Also, two external drive bays are a definite improvement but doesn't the current internal arrangement allow for 6 drives (stacked)? I wonder how many people took advantage of that.
The PDF also says up to 4 Megs of RAM. That is better for some of the applications it is buying and the markets it is going after. No mention of the type of RAM or processor speeds. I guess we will have to wait until mid August to get the rest of the details. Unless this person spills some more
Especially funny in the PDF is that it doesn't mention a processor, but it does give us some "clues":
- Turbine cooling
- Heat Sink (VERY LARGE 7lbs)
- the air intakes
This clearly has been made by someone (a) either in the know, but not courageous enough to post specs (b) someone just doing their best to convince us of the authenticity of their claims.
I go for option (b).
Hell, if I had had some more time I could have made the PDF myself. Looks like someone just had a longer peak at the photos before they were posted.
Wait, stupid me. Georgia, that might just be the real thing. The middle shot is not the motherboard, is it? It's the daughtercard. I've seen a motherboard with the PPC in that arrangement (and that board color) hmmm... the inner skeptic questions but the inner maclot wants to believe.
<strong>No, I've seen that color board, with whatever that chip is, mounted diagonally like that... I've seen that sucker before, I'm sure of it.
Either I got a look at an Apple MoBo without knowing it, I had a premonition, or that thing is fake.
Someone do a quick scour of the PPC AIX/Linux/Amiga projects floating around the web. I'm absolutely certain I've seen that motherboard before.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The CPU is not on the mainboard, it's on a riser. This is the third time I've said this.
You probably saw the pics of the eMac motherboard which has the CPU soldered directly onto the mainboard diagonally.
No again, I saw an ATX style Mobo in that arrangement and color. It had AGP and PCI slots down the sides, and RAM down another such that it boxed the CPU in when everything was installed.
So, actually it can't be this motherboard shown here.
I'm starting to believe...
The QS looks better, but I'll take two full size front drive bays. Also, unless those things at the bottom are front facing ports, get rid of them.
Unless they're on the back and the PDF is incomplete. Which it probably is.
So either the PDF is incomplete, or Apple must have great trust we don't need those buttons anymore: any kernel panic can be solved by pushing the power button alone.
This is exactly what is suggested from the screenshots from Jaguar which show a new screen after a kernel panic.
An user (APPLEP58) pretends to know something about this design and even claims he made the PDF:
[quote] DAMN the internet moves fast! I just made that PDF in CorelDRAW last night! and e-mailed it to macrumors.com webmaster but after getting no reply I posted it on the boards earlier; THAT WAS FRIGGIN FAST!
but perhaps I've said too much.
By the way it's not white it's the same silver color G4s are now, teh image is distorted (stretched, but you knew that) the sides, top, and handles are indistinguishable from P57 (QuickSilver); just A COMPLETE change of the internal design, and front and back panel are different.
...
BTW the french site has very old pics of what's called a DVT or EVT model, many components aren't seen, like the massive heatsink; and teh MPU die is not at a 45 degree like that in the final product; the boards are blue like th XServe's...
If those are front facing ports, they at least serve some purpose to some people. It does make pluging in a camera or a portable firewire drive much easier. They're quite ugly to me, and if they're not doing anything useful, they should get rid of them.
I'm inclined to believe Apple58. He mentions those photos are very old. It's possible the brown board is older than the red board. He indentifies the color of the tower...it's not clear in the photo. He talks about stuff we can't see.
I love the Xserve's deep blue colored motherboard.
The slots on the red board are indeed DDR SDRAM slots. regular PC-133 slots are keyed with two notches.
Here is a board that has both.
here is a board with onboard FireWire, USB 2, Serial ATA and DDR-400. Note this board has an AGP Pro slot, distinguished by the extra pins. Regular AGP 4x and AGP 8x look the same.
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Not good though when you want to place it on the floor.
"Decorative air intakes" - looks kinda like my old s900. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Not quite the minimalist design I like from Apple.
I hope Apple will not take these pictures down, I'd rather see something else coming.
[ 07-21-2002: Message edited by: zoeph ]</p>
I hope not. I think the case is not too bad, but a little un Apple in the drive treatment and what I assume are 4 front facing ports?
I know I've seen that motherboard before.
<strong>Is there an Apple logo on the side, or just some sort of roundel? Could it be a really close 3rd party knock-off to which someone added a PPC (Amiga one?) board slopped in just to jerk our chains a little?
I hope not. I think the case is not too bad, but a little un Apple in the drive treatment and what I assume are 4 front facing ports?
I know I've seen that motherboard before.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I see the Apple on the side. I already pointed out that it's basically the same board as the red board we saw on eBay, which is distinctly Apple. Those 4 holes on the front are vents.
The PDF also says up to 4 Megs of RAM. That is better for some of the applications it is buying and the markets it is going after. No mention of the type of RAM or processor speeds. I guess we will have to wait until mid August to get the rest of the details. Unless this person spills some more
- Turbine cooling
- Heat Sink (VERY LARGE 7lbs)
- the air intakes
This clearly has been made by someone (a) either in the know, but not courageous enough to post specs (b) someone just doing their best to convince us of the authenticity of their claims.
I go for option (b).
Hell, if I had had some more time I could have made the PDF myself. Looks like someone just had a longer peak at the photos before they were posted.
Either I got a look at an Apple MoBo without knowing it, I had a premonition, or that thing is fake.
Someone do a quick scour of the PPC AIX/Linux/Amiga projects floating around the web. I'm absolutely certain I've seen that motherboard before.
its the guts that really matter
<strong>No, I've seen that color board, with whatever that chip is, mounted diagonally like that... I've seen that sucker before, I'm sure of it.
Either I got a look at an Apple MoBo without knowing it, I had a premonition, or that thing is fake.
Someone do a quick scour of the PPC AIX/Linux/Amiga projects floating around the web. I'm absolutely certain I've seen that motherboard before.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The CPU is not on the mainboard, it's on a riser. This is the third time I've said this.
You probably saw the pics of the eMac motherboard which has the CPU soldered directly onto the mainboard diagonally.
tada.
[ 07-21-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
I say: 'Ugly son bitch'.
But now. Dunno. Could get used to it. It's different.
Cooling vents? I wonder why...
Lemon Bon Bon
So, actually it can't be this motherboard shown here.
I'm starting to believe...
The QS looks better, but I'll take two full size front drive bays. Also, unless those things at the bottom are front facing ports, get rid of them.
Lemon Bon Bon
Unless they're on the back and the PDF is incomplete. Which it probably is.
So either the PDF is incomplete, or Apple must have great trust we don't need those buttons anymore: any kernel panic can be solved by pushing the power button alone.
This is exactly what is suggested from the screenshots from Jaguar which show a new screen after a kernel panic.
<strong>antaisce1, DDR SDRAM is also SDRAM.
[ 07-21-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
What type of memory & bus is probable since the .pdf says "next generation G5 ready".
Does this also make the forthcoming towers the in-between "Yikes" transition model?
<a href="http://www.macrumors.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=8083"; target="_blank">MacRumors Thread</a>
An user (APPLEP58) pretends to know something about this design and even claims he made the PDF:
[quote] DAMN the internet moves fast! I just made that PDF in CorelDRAW last night! and e-mailed it to macrumors.com webmaster but after getting no reply I posted it on the boards earlier; THAT WAS FRIGGIN FAST!
but perhaps I've said too much.
By the way it's not white it's the same silver color G4s are now, teh image is distorted (stretched, but you knew that) the sides, top, and handles are indistinguishable from P57 (QuickSilver); just A COMPLETE change of the internal design, and front and back panel are different.
...
BTW the french site has very old pics of what's called a DVT or EVT model, many components aren't seen, like the massive heatsink; and teh MPU die is not at a 45 degree like that in the final product; the boards are blue like th XServe's...
<hr></blockquote>
[ 07-21-2002: Message edited by: CyberDog ]</p>
If this is their design it says two things though:
1. They should be trying harder. They could have done better.
2. The G5 is close enough that they are starting to plan for it.
Edit: Actually it says several more things but I'm just mentioning these for now
[ 07-21-2002: Message edited by: Telomar ]</p>
I'm inclined to believe Apple58. He mentions those photos are very old. It's possible the brown board is older than the red board. He indentifies the color of the tower...it's not clear in the photo. He talks about stuff we can't see.
I love the Xserve's deep blue colored motherboard.
Here is a board that has both.
here is a board with onboard FireWire, USB 2, Serial ATA and DDR-400. Note this board has an AGP Pro slot, distinguished by the extra pins. Regular AGP 4x and AGP 8x look the same.
[ 07-21-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>