Mac Pro spotted in DJ Calvin Harris' studio ahead of launch

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  • Reply 21 of 33
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    demo
    edited November 2019
  • Reply 22 of 33
    sflocal said:
    macxpress said:
    ernestu said:
    I'm surprised it doesn't come with the new WiFi 6.
    I doubt any professional buying this is doing things off wireless. Wireless is still too unreliable. We're lucky it even comes with wireless to be honest. 
    They probably put it in there for Apple Watch users since it requires WiFi for certain things.  

    Any wireless connection between a Mac and an Apple Watch would be Bluetooth (direct device-to-device), not over the Wifi network (Mac-to-router-to-Watch). If that Wifi connection is required on the Watch side for something, it still doesn't matter how the Mac connects to the router... wireless or wired.

    Apple requires WiFi for Apple Watch unlock as signal Time of Flight calculations as well as Spatial Beam Phase calculations all rely on WiFi hardware. Plus, Bluetooth sucks when it comes to raw data throughput, so Apple uses a combination of bluetooth-based discovery with its own WiFi stack (what you call WiFi direct on android is comparable, but not the same) for high data throughput as well as device authentification using advanced math with paramters that can be extracted from WiFi signals. Bluetooth does not offer any such feature and is infeasible for authentification purposes (e.g. Android based watch unlock is inherently insecure).
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  • Reply 23 of 33
    FolioFolio Posts: 698member
    tyler82 said:
    It takes a $30,000 Mac Pro to make electronic music? Kind of a waste of hardware. This is a workstation for extremely complex video editing, bitcoin processing, and extremely complex mathematical formulas. 
    Guess you didn’t see the Apple video where they featured a music producer mixing hundreds of tracks on the new MP. 
    tyler82 said:
    It takes a $30,000 Mac Pro to make electronic music? Kind of a waste of hardware. This is a workstation for extremely complex video editing, bitcoin processing, and extremely complex mathematical formulas. 
    Guess you didn’t see the Apple video where they featured a music producer mixing hundreds of tracks on the new MP. 
    If memory serves,  Avid was part of the demo. I'm hoping Apple will rollout new Logic too
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 24 of 33
    Avid HDX was part of the WWDC demos.  Believe featured 6 HDX cards at the demo.  Quote from AVID:

    “Avid’s Pro Tools team is blown away by the unprecedented processing power of the new Mac Pro, and thanks to its internal expansion capabilities, up to six Pro Tools HDX cards can be installed within the system – a first for Avid’s flagship audio workstation. We’re now able to deliver never-before-seen performance and capabilities for audio production in a single system and deliver a platform that professional users in music and post have been eagerly awaiting.”
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 25 of 33
    I prefer music made the old fashion way, analog recordings in a recording studio. Spent a lot of time in the finest studios in the DFW Metroplex through out the '70's and early '80's watching some of the finest artists of the times do their thing including the sound engineers who made it all possible.
  • Reply 26 of 33
    mobird said:
    I prefer music made the old fashion way, analog recordings in a recording studio. Spent a lot of time in the finest studios in the DFW Metroplex through out the '70's and early '80's watching some of the finest artists of the times do their thing including the sound engineers who made it all possible.
    You want Calvin Harris to get off your lawn?
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  • Reply 27 of 33
    mobird said:
    I prefer music made the old fashion way, analog recordings in a recording studio. Spent a lot of time in the finest studios in the DFW Metroplex through out the '70's and early '80's watching some of the finest artists of the times do their thing including the sound engineers who made it all possible.
    You want Calvin Harris to get off your lawn?
    Only if he is not mowing it... ;) Otherwise he can do whatever he pleases. I was just expressing a personal preference of the character and nuances of the audio generated as well as the methods utilized during that period.
    You OK with that?
  • Reply 28 of 33
    Folio said:
    tyler82 said:
    It takes a $30,000 Mac Pro to make electronic music? Kind of a waste of hardware. This is a workstation for extremely complex video editing, bitcoin processing, and extremely complex mathematical formulas. 
    Guess you didn’t see the Apple video where they featured a music producer mixing hundreds of tracks on the new MP. 
    tyler82 said:
    It takes a $30,000 Mac Pro to make electronic music? Kind of a waste of hardware. This is a workstation for extremely complex video editing, bitcoin processing, and extremely complex mathematical formulas. 
    Guess you didn’t see the Apple video where they featured a music producer mixing hundreds of tracks on the new MP. 
    If memory serves,  Avid was part of the demo. I'm hoping Apple will rollout new Logic too
    It was Logic. WWDC announcement of the MP, they did a segment specifically on Logic and the power of the MP for composing, at position 1:29:10: 



    ...1,000 tracks at once, 56 threads. He points out that to do these composers used to have to use multiple computers at once. 

    So, complex audio engineering and composing is definitely a valid use case case, unlike Tyler's claim that it's wasted on this hardware. Errrnt.
    edited November 2019 fastasleepwatto_cobra
  • Reply 29 of 33
    PezaPeza Posts: 198member
    At first I thought this was fake, but when you look at it closely you can see it isn’t. Lucky man. Won’t be long before it’s available for purchase.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 30 of 33
    PezaPeza Posts: 198member
    tyler82 said:
    It takes a $30,000 Mac Pro to make electronic music? Kind of a waste of hardware. This is a workstation for extremely complex video editing, bitcoin processing, and extremely complex mathematical formulas. 
    As a number of others have pointed out, you have no idea what you're talking about. Jacob Collier has most of his tracks as three separate files (orchestral studio session, personal vocal sessions, personal instrumental sessions) because his current mac can't cope with it. Even the new Mac Pro will be pushed. Just watch the first 3 minutes. 128 Gb of RAM, he's got a session loaded with "only" 358 tracks, and the first thing that happens when he presses play is the thing falls over. Audio work is very processor and RAM intensive. 


    What an excellent informative post, his video really highlights the power of Logic and why it’s a ‘pro’ app’, and why you need an awful lot of memory to use it in that professional manner. Amazing.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 31 of 33
    DRBDRB Posts: 34member
    tyler82 said:
    It takes a $30,000 Mac Pro to make electronic music? Kind of a waste of hardware. This is a workstation for extremely complex video editing, bitcoin processing, and extremely complex mathematical formulas. 
    No, he just has it because it's used as a tax write off because it's a business expense, plus it's an ego booster, or in this specific case, it's probably a loaner unit from Apple just to get feedback from a variety of so-called Professionals. I would agree that for this guy's purposes it's definitely overkill. It would have been better if Apple seeded these to a production company that actually pushed the envelope for music production as there are some customers that literally have HUNDREDS of tracks for a soundtrack. typically the film production companies that work with film scores, etc. What Calvin does probably could be done on an regular iPad without too much problem.
  • Reply 32 of 33
    DRB said:
    tyler82 said:
    It takes a $30,000 Mac Pro to make electronic music? Kind of a waste of hardware. This is a workstation for extremely complex video editing, bitcoin processing, and extremely complex mathematical formulas. 
    No, he just has it because it's used as a tax write off because it's a business expense, plus it's an ego booster, or in this specific case, it's probably a loaner unit from Apple just to get feedback from a variety of so-called Professionals. I would agree that for this guy's purposes it's definitely overkill. It would have been better if Apple seeded these to a production company that actually pushed the envelope for music production as there are some customers that literally have HUNDREDS of tracks for a soundtrack. typically the film production companies that work with film scores, etc. What Calvin does probably could be done on an regular iPad without too much problem.
    This is, of course, complete unadulterated horse shit. Sounds like someone's jealous!
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 33 of 33
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,782member
    DRB said:
    tyler82 said:
    It takes a $30,000 Mac Pro to make electronic music? Kind of a waste of hardware. This is a workstation for extremely complex video editing, bitcoin processing, and extremely complex mathematical formulas. 
    No, he just has it because it's used as a tax write off because it's a business expense, plus it's an ego booster, or in this specific case, it's probably a loaner unit from Apple just to get feedback from a variety of so-called Professionals. I would agree that for this guy's purposes it's definitely overkill. It would have been better if Apple seeded these to a production company that actually pushed the envelope for music production as there are some customers that literally have HUNDREDS of tracks for a soundtrack. typically the film production companies that work with film scores, etc. What Calvin does probably could be done on an regular iPad without too much problem.
    Uhhhhhh no. 
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