LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays, but without the production issues or potential for burn-in. Moving to Mini LED could also reduce Apple's reliance on Samsung's OLED manufacturing.
This is an article about iPads. Afaik, iPad screen tech is IPS LCD. Even if they move' to Mini LED, they'd still be using LCD panels with the Mini LED backlight. Apple has never relied on Samsung's OLED manufacturing for iPads. What's the connection?
Also just a suggestion. You guys should do an "explainer" on display tech used in/possibly will be use in Apple products. Too many articles just throw out OLED, Mini LED, Micro LED in the same article as if the audience knows the differences. The comment section generally proves that to be untrue. All three of those technologies are decidedly different. They're also in decidedly different stages of development.
There’s a misconception on your part here. Apple has been working on micro LED screens, as I mentioned above your post. In fact, Apple is ahead of everyone else in R&D for that tech, and basically kickstarted the R&D in the rest of the major players in the industry. The article says mini LED, which I questioned. But the idea is that this is not an LCD screen with an LED backlight, which uses leds on the edge of the display. Only large screens have them in back. It’s an LED screen.
I wouldn’t describe it as an “LED screen”. They’re describing a LCD screen with a grid of mini-LED backlights. Current generation is LCD with edge-lit LED backlight. When MacBooks has CFL backlit LCD screens, did you fall the “fluorescent screens”? No, they were and still are LCD screens. This is no different and I find it equally confusing that AI would mention “LED and Mini LED” alongside OLED, and then causally mention Micro LED later in the article as those latter two are much more comparable as they’re completely different screen tech from LCD, regardless of how it’s backlit, as they both are self-illuminating and require no backlight at all. The only comparison that makes sense to OLED is that you get deeper blacks and contrast with mini LED because you have a fine grid of backlights that can be selectively illuminated.
I know you understand this but just outlining the differences for people who would rightfully find this article super confusing. I agree with CloudTalkin.
Maybe I didn’t state it as clearly as I should have. Yes, mini led screens are backlightlit LCD screens. MicroLED screens are LED transmissive screens. I don’t see Apple using mini led screens. I see them going to micro LED screens.
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays, but without the production issues or potential for burn-in. Moving to Mini LED could also reduce Apple's reliance on Samsung's OLED manufacturing.
This is an article about iPads. Afaik, iPad screen tech is IPS LCD. Even if they move' to Mini LED, they'd still be using LCD panels with the Mini LED backlight. Apple has never relied on Samsung's OLED manufacturing for iPads. What's the connection?
Also just a suggestion. You guys should do an "explainer" on display tech used in/possibly will be use in Apple products. Too many articles just throw out OLED, Mini LED, Micro LED in the same article as if the audience knows the differences. The comment section generally proves that to be untrue. All three of those technologies are decidedly different. They're also in decidedly different stages of development.
There’s a misconception on your part here. Apple has been working on micro LED screens, as I mentioned above your post. In fact, Apple is ahead of everyone else in R&D for that tech, and basically kickstarted the R&D in the rest of the major players in the industry. The article says mini LED, which I questioned. But the idea is that this is not an LCD screen with an LED backlight, which uses leds on the edge of the display. Only large screens have them in back. It’s an LED screen.
I wouldn’t describe it as an “LED screen”. They’re describing a LCD screen with a grid of mini-LED backlights. Current generation is LCD with edge-lit LED backlight. When MacBooks has CFL backlit LCD screens, did you fall the “fluorescent screens”? No, they were and still are LCD screens. This is no different and I find it equally confusing that AI would mention “LED and Mini LED” alongside OLED, and then causally mention Micro LED later in the article as those latter two are much more comparable as they’re completely different screen tech from LCD, regardless of how it’s backlit, as they both are self-illuminating and require no backlight at all. The only comparison that makes sense to OLED is that you get deeper blacks and contrast with mini LED because you have a fine grid of backlights that can be selectively illuminated.
I know you understand this but just outlining the differences for people who would rightfully find this article super confusing. I agree with CloudTalkin.
Maybe I didn’t state it as clearly as I should have. Yes, mini led screens are backlightlit LCD screens. MicroLED screens are LED transmissive screens. I don’t see Apple using mini led screens. I see them going to micro LED screens.
By the end of 2020 as quoted in the article? Nope. The tech isn't ready. Even if it was, they wouldn't risk debuting it in iPads. That makes no sense. Apple Watch will see MicroLED first and it will be no sooner than 2021. Again, opinion, but an opinion that makes a heckuva lot more sense than thinking next year's iPads will debut MicroLED.
That article you referenced is outdated. It also doesn't support your assertion that Apple is ahead in MicroLED research. It states that Apple has the broadest patent portfolio due to it's LuxVue acquisition. That's not the same as leading in R&D. Apple could be ahead, but nothing you presented supports that assertion. Even at the end of your reference article there's an admonition that some significant issues exist with MicroLED. To date, there are still significant hurdles involved in mass commercialization of MicroLED. So not sure why you think MicroLED will hit iPads before MiniLED. Apple is already using MiniLED in the XDR Display.
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays, but without the production issues or potential for burn-in. Moving to Mini LED could also reduce Apple's reliance on Samsung's OLED manufacturing.
This is an article about iPads. Afaik, iPad screen tech is IPS LCD. Even if they move' to Mini LED, they'd still be using LCD panels with the Mini LED backlight. Apple has never relied on Samsung's OLED manufacturing for iPads. What's the connection?
Also just a suggestion. You guys should do an "explainer" on display tech used in/possibly will be use in Apple products. Too many articles just throw out OLED, Mini LED, Micro LED in the same article as if the audience knows the differences. The comment section generally proves that to be untrue. All three of those technologies are decidedly different. They're also in decidedly different stages of development.
There’s a misconception on your part here. Apple has been working on micro LED screens, as I mentioned above your post. In fact, Apple is ahead of everyone else in R&D for that tech, and basically kickstarted the R&D in the rest of the major players in the industry. The article says mini LED, which I questioned. But the idea is that this is not an LCD screen with an LED backlight, which uses leds on the edge of the display. Only large screens have them in back. It’s an LED screen.
I wouldn’t describe it as an “LED screen”. They’re describing a LCD screen with a grid of mini-LED backlights. Current generation is LCD with edge-lit LED backlight. When MacBooks has CFL backlit LCD screens, did you fall the “fluorescent screens”? No, they were and still are LCD screens. This is no different and I find it equally confusing that AI would mention “LED and Mini LED” alongside OLED, and then causally mention Micro LED later in the article as those latter two are much more comparable as they’re completely different screen tech from LCD, regardless of how it’s backlit, as they both are self-illuminating and require no backlight at all. The only comparison that makes sense to OLED is that you get deeper blacks and contrast with mini LED because you have a fine grid of backlights that can be selectively illuminated.
I know you understand this but just outlining the differences for people who would rightfully find this article super confusing. I agree with CloudTalkin.
Maybe I didn’t state it as clearly as I should have. Yes, mini led screens are backlightlit LCD screens. MicroLED screens are LED transmissive screens. I don’t see Apple using mini led screens. I see them going to micro LED screens.
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays, but without the production issues or potential for burn-in. Moving to Mini LED could also reduce Apple's reliance on Samsung's OLED manufacturing.
This is an article about iPads. Afaik, iPad screen tech is IPS LCD. Even if they move' to Mini LED, they'd still be using LCD panels with the Mini LED backlight. Apple has never relied on Samsung's OLED manufacturing for iPads. What's the connection?
Also just a suggestion. You guys should do an "explainer" on display tech used in/possibly will be use in Apple products. Too many articles just throw out OLED, Mini LED, Micro LED in the same article as if the audience knows the differences. The comment section generally proves that to be untrue. All three of those technologies are decidedly different. They're also in decidedly different stages of development.
There’s a misconception on your part here. Apple has been working on micro LED screens, as I mentioned above your post. In fact, Apple is ahead of everyone else in R&D for that tech, and basically kickstarted the R&D in the rest of the major players in the industry. The article says mini LED, which I questioned. But the idea is that this is not an LCD screen with an LED backlight, which uses leds on the edge of the display. Only large screens have them in back. It’s an LED screen.
I wouldn’t describe it as an “LED screen”. They’re describing a LCD screen with a grid of mini-LED backlights. Current generation is LCD with edge-lit LED backlight. When MacBooks has CFL backlit LCD screens, did you fall the “fluorescent screens”? No, they were and still are LCD screens. This is no different and I find it equally confusing that AI would mention “LED and Mini LED” alongside OLED, and then causally mention Micro LED later in the article as those latter two are much more comparable as they’re completely different screen tech from LCD, regardless of how it’s backlit, as they both are self-illuminating and require no backlight at all. The only comparison that makes sense to OLED is that you get deeper blacks and contrast with mini LED because you have a fine grid of backlights that can be selectively illuminated.
I know you understand this but just outlining the differences for people who would rightfully find this article super confusing. I agree with CloudTalkin.
Maybe I didn’t state it as clearly as I should have. Yes, mini led screens are backlightlit LCD screens. MicroLED screens are LED transmissive screens. I don’t see Apple using mini led screens. I see them going to micro LED screens.
Then I think you and Mike both had typos. You actually said:
But the idea is that this is not an LCD screen with an LED backlight, which uses leds on the edge of the display. Only large screens have them in back. It’s an LED screen.
And in Mike's post, I don't think he meant to write this exactly, but this is where it gets confusing:
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays, but without the production issues or potential for burn-in. Moving to Mini LED could also reduce Apple's reliance on Samsung's OLED manufacturing.
This is an article about iPads. Afaik, iPad screen tech is IPS LCD. Even if they move to Mini LED, they'd still be using LCD panels with the Mini LED backlight. Apple has never relied on Samsung's OLED manufacturing for iPads. What's the connection?
Also just a suggestion. You guys should do an "explainer" on display tech used in/possibly will be use in Apple products. Too many articles just throw out OLED, Mini LED, Micro LED in the same article as if the audience knows the differences. The comment section generally proves that to be untrue. All three of those technologies are decidedly different. They're also in decidedly different stages of development.
Head over to 9to5; they answer most of your questions.
Typing this on an iPad Pro 12.9 I was wondering when the next update would be as the current design is now over a year old. This has easily been the best iPad of any kind that I have owned and the iPad OS is a great improvement.
Still would love to see a large iPad OS device on a permanent stand similar to the Surface Studio. I think they would get enough sales to justify the development cost.
Let’s ask Microsoft. I’m sure they’ll be happy to disclose their Surface Studio sales numbers. 😉
I rather see the current iPad Pro turn into an actual pro device. That’s mostly a software thing.
To me, the iPad Pro is the worst device Apple sells of today and the most disappointing Apple purchase I’ve made, because it’s marketed the wrong way. It utterly fails as a laptop replacement, it fails at productivity and fails to provide a real benefit as a tablet - compared to the regular iPad (except having an overpriced pencil for it).
To each his/her own. I am typing this on my 12.9” iPad Pro and the iPad is inching closer than ever to a laptop replacement.
May I suggest the Logitech keyboard cover instead of the Apple model? It has a better keyboard and the keys are illuminated like an Apple laptop. I own an Apple Pencil but it is mostly unused and agree it is overpriced.
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays, but without the production issues or potential for burn-in. Moving to Mini LED could also reduce Apple's reliance on Samsung's OLED manufacturing.
This is an article about iPads. Afaik, iPad screen tech is IPS LCD. Even if they move to Mini LED, they'd still be using LCD panels with the Mini LED backlight. Apple has never relied on Samsung's OLED manufacturing for iPads. What's the connection?
Also just a suggestion. You guys should do an "explainer" on display tech used in/possibly will be use in Apple products. Too many articles just throw out OLED, Mini LED, Micro LED in the same article as if the audience knows the differences. The comment section generally proves that to be untrue. All three of those technologies are decidedly different. They're also in decidedly different stages of development.
Head over to 9to5; they answer most of your questions.
I don't understand Phil. There's only one question in the entire quote (What's the connection?) and it's directed to Mike? Not really sure what you think 9to5 can answer for Mike.
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays, but without the production issues or potential for burn-in. Moving to Mini LED could also reduce Apple's reliance on Samsung's OLED manufacturing.
This is an article about iPads. Afaik, iPad screen tech is IPS LCD. Even if they move' to Mini LED, they'd still be using LCD panels with the Mini LED backlight. Apple has never relied on Samsung's OLED manufacturing for iPads. What's the connection?
Also just a suggestion. You guys should do an "explainer" on display tech used in/possibly will be use in Apple products. Too many articles just throw out OLED, Mini LED, Micro LED in the same article as if the audience knows the differences. The comment section generally proves that to be untrue. All three of those technologies are decidedly different. They're also in decidedly different stages of development.
There’s a misconception on your part here. Apple has been working on micro LED screens, as I mentioned above your post. In fact, Apple is ahead of everyone else in R&D for that tech, and basically kickstarted the R&D in the rest of the major players in the industry. The article says mini LED, which I questioned. But the idea is that this is not an LCD screen with an LED backlight, which uses leds on the edge of the display. Only large screens have them in back. It’s an LED screen.
I wouldn’t describe it as an “LED screen”. They’re describing a LCD screen with a grid of mini-LED backlights. Current generation is LCD with edge-lit LED backlight. When MacBooks has CFL backlit LCD screens, did you fall the “fluorescent screens”? No, they were and still are LCD screens. This is no different and I find it equally confusing that AI would mention “LED and Mini LED” alongside OLED, and then causally mention Micro LED later in the article as those latter two are much more comparable as they’re completely different screen tech from LCD, regardless of how it’s backlit, as they both are self-illuminating and require no backlight at all. The only comparison that makes sense to OLED is that you get deeper blacks and contrast with mini LED because you have a fine grid of backlights that can be selectively illuminated.
I know you understand this but just outlining the differences for people who would rightfully find this article super confusing. I agree with CloudTalkin.
Maybe I didn’t state it as clearly as I should have. Yes, mini led screens are backlightlit LCD screens. MicroLED screens are LED transmissive screens. I don’t see Apple using mini led screens. I see them going to micro LED screens.
By the end of 2020 as quoted in the article? Nope. The tech isn't ready. Even if it was, they wouldn't risk debuting it in iPads. That makes no sense. Apple Watch will see MicroLED first and it will be no sooner than 2021. Again, opinion, but an opinion that makes a heckuva lot more sense than thinking next year's iPads will debut MicroLED.
That article you referenced is outdated. It also doesn't support your assertion that Apple is ahead in MicroLED research. It states that Apple has the broadest patent portfolio due to it's LuxVue acquisition. That's not the same as leading in R&D. Apple could be ahead, but nothing you presented supports that assertion. Even at the end of your reference article there's an admonition that some significant issues exist with MicroLED. To date, there are still significant hurdles involved in mass commercialization of MicroLED. So not sure why you think MicroLED will hit iPads before MiniLED. Apple is already using MiniLED in the XDR Display.
That article is from 2019. It’s not outdated at all. The broadest patent portfolio is usually considered to mean ahead, as Qualcomm is with modems. It makes it more difficult for anyone else to compete without licensing some of those patents. As Intel has found out. And yes, there are difficulties, that doesn’t mean that Apple isn’t ahead. There are a number of articles about that, if you were really interested.
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays, but without the production issues or potential for burn-in. Moving to Mini LED could also reduce Apple's reliance on Samsung's OLED manufacturing.
This is an article about iPads. Afaik, iPad screen tech is IPS LCD. Even if they move' to Mini LED, they'd still be using LCD panels with the Mini LED backlight. Apple has never relied on Samsung's OLED manufacturing for iPads. What's the connection?
Also just a suggestion. You guys should do an "explainer" on display tech used in/possibly will be use in Apple products. Too many articles just throw out OLED, Mini LED, Micro LED in the same article as if the audience knows the differences. The comment section generally proves that to be untrue. All three of those technologies are decidedly different. They're also in decidedly different stages of development.
There’s a misconception on your part here. Apple has been working on micro LED screens, as I mentioned above your post. In fact, Apple is ahead of everyone else in R&D for that tech, and basically kickstarted the R&D in the rest of the major players in the industry. The article says mini LED, which I questioned. But the idea is that this is not an LCD screen with an LED backlight, which uses leds on the edge of the display. Only large screens have them in back. It’s an LED screen.
I wouldn’t describe it as an “LED screen”. They’re describing a LCD screen with a grid of mini-LED backlights. Current generation is LCD with edge-lit LED backlight. When MacBooks has CFL backlit LCD screens, did you fall the “fluorescent screens”? No, they were and still are LCD screens. This is no different and I find it equally confusing that AI would mention “LED and Mini LED” alongside OLED, and then causally mention Micro LED later in the article as those latter two are much more comparable as they’re completely different screen tech from LCD, regardless of how it’s backlit, as they both are self-illuminating and require no backlight at all. The only comparison that makes sense to OLED is that you get deeper blacks and contrast with mini LED because you have a fine grid of backlights that can be selectively illuminated.
I know you understand this but just outlining the differences for people who would rightfully find this article super confusing. I agree with CloudTalkin.
Maybe I didn’t state it as clearly as I should have. Yes, mini led screens are backlightlit LCD screens. MicroLED screens are LED transmissive screens. I don’t see Apple using mini led screens. I see them going to micro LED screens.
The new XDR Pro Display is MiniLED LCD.
its not quite what the concept of miniled is all about. The pro monitor uses 576 zones of backlighting. More than most other high end broadcast monitors, but still not the preferred pixel to pixel backlight that miniled can offer.
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays, but without the production issues or potential for burn-in. Moving to Mini LED could also reduce Apple's reliance on Samsung's OLED manufacturing.
This is an article about iPads. Afaik, iPad screen tech is IPS LCD. Even if they move' to Mini LED, they'd still be using LCD panels with the Mini LED backlight. Apple has never relied on Samsung's OLED manufacturing for iPads. What's the connection?
Also just a suggestion. You guys should do an "explainer" on display tech used in/possibly will be use in Apple products. Too many articles just throw out OLED, Mini LED, Micro LED in the same article as if the audience knows the differences. The comment section generally proves that to be untrue. All three of those technologies are decidedly different. They're also in decidedly different stages of development.
There’s a misconception on your part here. Apple has been working on micro LED screens, as I mentioned above your post. In fact, Apple is ahead of everyone else in R&D for that tech, and basically kickstarted the R&D in the rest of the major players in the industry. The article says mini LED, which I questioned. But the idea is that this is not an LCD screen with an LED backlight, which uses leds on the edge of the display. Only large screens have them in back. It’s an LED screen.
I wouldn’t describe it as an “LED screen”. They’re describing a LCD screen with a grid of mini-LED backlights. Current generation is LCD with edge-lit LED backlight. When MacBooks has CFL backlit LCD screens, did you fall the “fluorescent screens”? No, they were and still are LCD screens. This is no different and I find it equally confusing that AI would mention “LED and Mini LED” alongside OLED, and then causally mention Micro LED later in the article as those latter two are much more comparable as they’re completely different screen tech from LCD, regardless of how it’s backlit, as they both are self-illuminating and require no backlight at all. The only comparison that makes sense to OLED is that you get deeper blacks and contrast with mini LED because you have a fine grid of backlights that can be selectively illuminated.
I know you understand this but just outlining the differences for people who would rightfully find this article super confusing. I agree with CloudTalkin.
Maybe I didn’t state it as clearly as I should have. Yes, mini led screens are backlightlit LCD screens. MicroLED screens are LED transmissive screens. I don’t see Apple using mini led screens. I see them going to micro LED screens.
Then I think you and Mike both had typos. You actually said:
But the idea is that this is not an LCD screen with an LED backlight, which uses leds on the edge of the display. Only large screens have them in back. It’s an LED screen.
And in Mike's post, I don't think he meant to write this exactly, but this is where it gets confusing:
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays
So I want to clear up a reason I am skeptical about this rumor. For years now, Apple has been trying to simplify the screen complexity grown from the numerous functions in screen. Supposedly, next year, Apple will be working with Samsung to use new OLED screens with touch in the oled screen itself, not in a film on the screen. This will give just a bit less thickness. Everything Apple has been doing with screens has been to lower power usage, thickness, while increasing performance.
Going to mini LED will reverse that trend. Putting LEDs behind the screen will increase the thickness. Not by much, but measurably. Is the performance enhancement worth it? I’m not so sure. Apple made a big deal this year about the new, thinner screen for the Watch as well. It’s become a common theme for them.
LED and Mini LED screens are expected to be comparable to OLED displays, but without the production issues or potential for burn-in. Moving to Mini LED could also reduce Apple's reliance on Samsung's OLED manufacturing.
This is an article about iPads. Afaik, iPad screen tech is IPS LCD. Even if they move' to Mini LED, they'd still be using LCD panels with the Mini LED backlight. Apple has never relied on Samsung's OLED manufacturing for iPads. What's the connection?
Also just a suggestion. You guys should do an "explainer" on display tech used in/possibly will be use in Apple products. Too many articles just throw out OLED, Mini LED, Micro LED in the same article as if the audience knows the differences. The comment section generally proves that to be untrue. All three of those technologies are decidedly different. They're also in decidedly different stages of development.
There’s a misconception on your part here. Apple has been working on micro LED screens, as I mentioned above your post. In fact, Apple is ahead of everyone else in R&D for that tech, and basically kickstarted the R&D in the rest of the major players in the industry. The article says mini LED, which I questioned. But the idea is that this is not an LCD screen with an LED backlight, which uses leds on the edge of the display. Only large screens have them in back. It’s an LED screen.
I wouldn’t describe it as an “LED screen”. They’re describing a LCD screen with a grid of mini-LED backlights. Current generation is LCD with edge-lit LED backlight. When MacBooks has CFL backlit LCD screens, did you fall the “fluorescent screens”? No, they were and still are LCD screens. This is no different and I find it equally confusing that AI would mention “LED and Mini LED” alongside OLED, and then causally mention Micro LED later in the article as those latter two are much more comparable as they’re completely different screen tech from LCD, regardless of how it’s backlit, as they both are self-illuminating and require no backlight at all. The only comparison that makes sense to OLED is that you get deeper blacks and contrast with mini LED because you have a fine grid of backlights that can be selectively illuminated.
I know you understand this but just outlining the differences for people who would rightfully find this article super confusing. I agree with CloudTalkin.
Maybe I didn’t state it as clearly as I should have. Yes, mini led screens are backlightlit LCD screens. MicroLED screens are LED transmissive screens. I don’t see Apple using mini led screens. I see them going to micro LED screens.
By the end of 2020 as quoted in the article? Nope. The tech isn't ready. Even if it was, they wouldn't risk debuting it in iPads. That makes no sense. Apple Watch will see MicroLED first and it will be no sooner than 2021. Again, opinion, but an opinion that makes a heckuva lot more sense than thinking next year's iPads will debut MicroLED.
That article you referenced is outdated. It also doesn't support your assertion that Apple is ahead in MicroLED research. It states that Apple has the broadest patent portfolio due to it's LuxVue acquisition. That's not the same as leading in R&D. Apple could be ahead, but nothing you presented supports that assertion. Even at the end of your reference article there's an admonition that some significant issues exist with MicroLED. To date, there are still significant hurdles involved in mass commercialization of MicroLED. So not sure why you think MicroLED will hit iPads before MiniLED. Apple is already using MiniLED in the XDR Display.
That article is from 2019. It’s not outdated at all. The broadest patent portfolio is usually considered to mean ahead, as Qualcomm is with modems. It makes it more difficult for anyone else to compete without licensing some of those patents. As Intel has found out. And yes, there are difficulties, that doesn’t mean that Apple isn’t ahead. There are a number of articles about that, if you were really interested.
Bud, that article you attached is from 2017, not 2019. A cursory Google search of the title: "MicroLED Pits Big Apple vs. Tiny LED Chips" shows the article is from Sept. 15th '17 The broadest patent portfolio has never been considered to mean ahead in R&D as you claimed. You literally just made that up. Qualcomm's portfolio is strong, not because of number of patents, but the specificity of it's patents. QC has a ton of industry specific Standard Essential Patents. That's what Intel couldn't contend with, not just the sheer number. LuxVue/Apple, afaik, doesn't have any SEP's so their patents are possibly no stronger than the patents of the other 100+ companies working on MicroLED. Google purchased all those Motorola patents and that volume didn't suddenly make them R&D leaders. As I already said, Apple could be ahead in R&D. As I also said, nothing you've provided even comes close to supporting your assertion. That's not a criticism of Apple. It's a criticism of your unsubstantiated claims. These article's that support your assertion... supply a couple.
So I want to clear up a reason I am skeptical about this rumor. For years now, Apple has been trying to simplify the screen complexity grown from the numerous functions in screen. Supposedly, next year, Apple will be working with Samsung to use new OLED screens with touch in the oled screen itself, not in a film on the screen. This will give just a bit less thickness. Everything Apple has been doing with screens has been to lower power usage, thickness, while increasing performance.
Going to mini LED will reverse that trend. Putting LEDs behind the screen will increase the thickness. Not by much, but measurably. Is the performance enhancement worth it? I’m not so sure. Apple made a big deal this year about the new, thinner screen for the Watch as well. It’s become a common theme for them.
Gaaaaaaaah... Mel stop making up stuff. The iPad already uses LED backlighting. https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/ So how is using MiniLED tech going to increase thickness?
I rather see the current iPad Pro turn into an actual pro device. That’s mostly a software thing.
To me, the iPad Pro is the worst device Apple sells of today and the most disappointing Apple purchase I’ve made, because it’s marketed the wrong way. It utterly fails as a laptop replacement, it fails at productivity and fails to provide a real benefit as a tablet - compared to the regular iPad (except having an overpriced pencil for it).
It sounds like the Pro does not fill your particular use case, a regular iPad might’ve been a better fit. The Pencil is mainly for artists and doodlers, I don’t think it’s overpriced. Look at the limitations of a pricier Cintiq.
I agree with that - it was the wrong product for me. What I find misleading is how Apple positioned the product.
Which is why I find it the worst product they have. By being ‘honest’ about what it’s good at and what it isn’t good at, I would have rated the same product correctly positioned a solid A, despite it being the wrong fit for me.
So I want to clear up a reason I am skeptical about this rumor. For years now, Apple has been trying to simplify the screen complexity grown from the numerous functions in screen. Supposedly, next year, Apple will be working with Samsung to use new OLED screens with touch in the oled screen itself, not in a film on the screen. This will give just a bit less thickness. Everything Apple has been doing with screens has been to lower power usage, thickness, while increasing performance.
Going to mini LED will reverse that trend. Putting LEDs behind the screen will increase the thickness. Not by much, but measurably. Is the performance enhancement worth it? I’m not so sure. Apple made a big deal this year about the new, thinner screen for the Watch as well. It’s become a common theme for them.
Gaaaaaaaah... Mel stop making up stuff. The iPad already uses LED backlighting. https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/ So how is using MiniLED tech going to increase thickness?
For crying out loud, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
So I want to clear up a reason I am skeptical about this rumor. For years now, Apple has been trying to simplify the screen complexity grown from the numerous functions in screen. Supposedly, next year, Apple will be working with Samsung to use new OLED screens with touch in the oled screen itself, not in a film on the screen. This will give just a bit less thickness. Everything Apple has been doing with screens has been to lower power usage, thickness, while increasing performance.
Going to mini LED will reverse that trend. Putting LEDs behind the screen will increase the thickness. Not by much, but measurably. Is the performance enhancement worth it? I’m not so sure. Apple made a big deal this year about the new, thinner screen for the Watch as well. It’s become a common theme for them.
Gaaaaaaaah... Mel stop making up stuff. The iPad already uses LED backlighting. https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/ So how is using MiniLED tech going to increase thickness?
For crying out loud, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Dude you're literally making stuff up. MiniLED making iPads thicker? Based on... You can't back up anything you've claimed. I am far far far from an expert, but you are clearly out of your depth on the topic.
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Maybe I didn’t state it as clearly as I should have. Yes, mini led screens are backlightlit LCD screens. MicroLED screens are LED transmissive screens. I don’t see Apple using mini led screens. I see them going to micro LED screens.
That article you referenced is outdated. It also doesn't support your assertion that Apple is ahead in MicroLED research. It states that Apple has the broadest patent portfolio due to it's LuxVue acquisition. That's not the same as leading in R&D. Apple could be ahead, but nothing you presented supports that assertion. Even at the end of your reference article there's an admonition that some significant issues exist with MicroLED. To date, there are still significant hurdles involved in mass commercialization of MicroLED. So not sure why you think MicroLED will hit iPads before MiniLED. Apple is already using MiniLED in the XDR Display.
And in Mike's post, I don't think he meant to write this exactly, but this is where it gets confusing:
Either way this whole thing is a bit of a mess.
May I suggest the Logitech keyboard cover instead of the Apple model? It has a better keyboard and the keys are illuminated like an Apple laptop. I own an Apple Pencil but it is mostly unused and agree it is overpriced.
its not quite what the concept of miniled is all about. The pro monitor uses 576 zones of backlighting. More than most other high end broadcast monitors, but still not the preferred pixel to pixel backlight that miniled can offer.
Yeah. It wasn’t exactly a typo on my part. It just wasn’t stated well. Usually I try to say thing precisely. Somehow I didn’t there.
The broadest patent portfolio has never been considered to mean ahead in R&D as you claimed. You literally just made that up. Qualcomm's portfolio is strong, not because of number of patents, but the specificity of it's patents. QC has a ton of industry specific Standard Essential Patents. That's what Intel couldn't contend with, not just the sheer number. LuxVue/Apple, afaik, doesn't have any SEP's so their patents are possibly no stronger than the patents of the other 100+ companies working on MicroLED. Google purchased all those Motorola patents and that volume didn't suddenly make them R&D leaders. As I already said, Apple could be ahead in R&D. As I also said, nothing you've provided even comes close to supporting your assertion. That's not a criticism of Apple. It's a criticism of your unsubstantiated claims. These article's that support your assertion... supply a couple.