I rather see the current iPad Pro turn into an actual pro device. That’s mostly a software thing.
To me, the iPad Pro is the worst device Apple sells of today and the most disappointing Apple purchase I’ve made, because it’s marketed the wrong way. It utterly fails as a laptop replacement, it fails at productivity and fails to provide a real benefit as a tablet - compared to the regular iPad (except having an overpriced pencil for it).
It sounds like the Pro does not fill your particular use case, a regular iPad might’ve been a better fit. The Pencil is mainly for artists and doodlers, I don’t think it’s overpriced. Look at the limitations of a pricier Cintiq.
I agree with that - it was the wrong product for me. What I find misleading is how Apple positioned the product.
Which is why I find it the worst product they have. By being ‘honest’ about what it’s good at and what it isn’t good at, I would have rated the same product correctly positioned a solid A, despite it being the wrong fit for me.
The iPad Pro is the worst product they have? Er, ok. What brand tablets do you think perform better?
So I want to clear up a reason I am skeptical about this rumor. For years now, Apple has been trying to simplify the screen complexity grown from the numerous functions in screen. Supposedly, next year, Apple will be working with Samsung to use new OLED screens with touch in the oled screen itself, not in a film on the screen. This will give just a bit less thickness. Everything Apple has been doing with screens has been to lower power usage, thickness, while increasing performance.
Going to mini LED will reverse that trend. Putting LEDs behind the screen will increase the thickness. Not by much, but measurably. Is the performance enhancement worth it? I’m not so sure. Apple made a big deal this year about the new, thinner screen for the Watch as well. It’s become a common theme for them.
Gaaaaaaaah... Mel stop making up stuff. The iPad already uses LED backlighting. https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/ So how is using MiniLED tech going to increase thickness?
As far as I know, the iPad screen is side-illuminated by LEDs along the edges, with a reflective back panel to distribute the light evenly. Mini LED would be a panel of a tight grid of LEDs behind the screen. I don't know how much more space that might take up, but he may be correct that Mini LED panel would increase thickness a tad.
I rather see the current iPad Pro turn into an actual pro device. That’s mostly a software thing.
To me, the iPad Pro is the worst device Apple sells of today and the most disappointing Apple purchase I’ve made, because it’s marketed the wrong way. It utterly fails as a laptop replacement, it fails at productivity and fails to provide a real benefit as a tablet - compared to the regular iPad (except having an overpriced pencil for it).
It sounds like the Pro does not fill your particular use case, a regular iPad might’ve been a better fit. The Pencil is mainly for artists and doodlers, I don’t think it’s overpriced. Look at the limitations of a pricier Cintiq.
I agree with that - it was the wrong product for me. What I find misleading is how Apple positioned the product.
Which is why I find it the worst product they have. By being ‘honest’ about what it’s good at and what it isn’t good at, I would have rated the same product correctly positioned a solid A, despite it being the wrong fit for me.
It's not the "worst product they have" just because you bought it thinking it was something that it wasn't. It's a great product, works very well for what it actually is, and you just made a mistake.
So I want to clear up a reason I am skeptical about this rumor. For years now, Apple has been trying to simplify the screen complexity grown from the numerous functions in screen. Supposedly, next year, Apple will be working with Samsung to use new OLED screens with touch in the oled screen itself, not in a film on the screen. This will give just a bit less thickness. Everything Apple has been doing with screens has been to lower power usage, thickness, while increasing performance.
Going to mini LED will reverse that trend. Putting LEDs behind the screen will increase the thickness. Not by much, but measurably. Is the performance enhancement worth it? I’m not so sure. Apple made a big deal this year about the new, thinner screen for the Watch as well. It’s become a common theme for them.
Gaaaaaaaah... Mel stop making up stuff. The iPad already uses LED backlighting. https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/ So how is using MiniLED tech going to increase thickness?
As far as I know, the iPad screen is side-illuminated by LEDs along the edges, with a reflective back panel to distribute the light evenly. Mini LED would be a panel of a tight grid of LEDs behind the screen. I don't know how much more space that might take up, but he may be correct that Mini LED panel would increase thickness a tad.
That's the thing though. MiniLED panels have smaller LED elements and they aren't stacked vertically. So why would they cause the iPad to be thicker? That makes no sense at all. Also not that Kuo is actual evidence of anything, but he claims the use of MiniLED would allow for thinner and lighter product designs. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/supply-chain-reports-back-rumors-of-macbook-pro-and-ipad-pro-with-mini-led-displays-in-2020.2214269/ Relevant excerpt: Kuo has previously said that Mini-LED displays will allow for thinner and lighter product designs, while offering many of the same benefits of OLED displays...
Skipping A12X and going alternate years then I assume. Those who bought the third gen Pro will have had a longer than usual stint at the top for an iOS product, not that I abide by those that complain about faster hardware updates making what they got feel older, you still got what you paid for.
So I want to clear up a reason I am skeptical about this rumor. For years now, Apple has been trying to simplify the screen complexity grown from the numerous functions in screen. Supposedly, next year, Apple will be working with Samsung to use new OLED screens with touch in the oled screen itself, not in a film on the screen. This will give just a bit less thickness. Everything Apple has been doing with screens has been to lower power usage, thickness, while increasing performance.
Going to mini LED will reverse that trend. Putting LEDs behind the screen will increase the thickness. Not by much, but measurably. Is the performance enhancement worth it? I’m not so sure. Apple made a big deal this year about the new, thinner screen for the Watch as well. It’s become a common theme for them.
Gaaaaaaaah... Mel stop making up stuff. The iPad already uses LED backlighting. https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/ So how is using MiniLED tech going to increase thickness?
As far as I know, the iPad screen is side-illuminated by LEDs along the edges, with a reflective back panel to distribute the light evenly. Mini LED would be a panel of a tight grid of LEDs behind the screen. I don't know how much more space that might take up, but he may be correct that Mini LED panel would increase thickness a tad.
So I want to clear up a reason I am skeptical about this rumor. For years now, Apple has been trying to simplify the screen complexity grown from the numerous functions in screen. Supposedly, next year, Apple will be working with Samsung to use new OLED screens with touch in the oled screen itself, not in a film on the screen. This will give just a bit less thickness. Everything Apple has been doing with screens has been to lower power usage, thickness, while increasing performance.
Going to mini LED will reverse that trend. Putting LEDs behind the screen will increase the thickness. Not by much, but measurably. Is the performance enhancement worth it? I’m not so sure. Apple made a big deal this year about the new, thinner screen for the Watch as well. It’s become a common theme for them.
Gaaaaaaaah... Mel stop making up stuff. The iPad already uses LED backlighting. https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/ So how is using MiniLED tech going to increase thickness?
As far as I know, the iPad screen is side-illuminated by LEDs along the edges, with a reflective back panel to distribute the light evenly. Mini LED would be a panel of a tight grid of LEDs behind the screen. I don't know how much more space that might take up, but he may be correct that Mini LED panel would increase thickness a tad.
Exactly. He doesn’t seem to know this.
FALD. Still way too huge for mobile devices I suppose.
Apple will want to ship cellular 2020 iPad Pros with 5G. They will not likely ship 5G in an iPad prior to the iPhone 12. Since the iPhone 12 will feature the A14 it makes perfect sense that there will be no 2020 iPad with a A13X, but instead an A14X, 5G, MiniLED device. It will be a killer machine. It is possible we may see an A13 iPad Air, and an A12 iPad, however.
Apple will want to ship cellular 2020 iPad Pros with 5G. They will not likely ship 5G in an iPad prior to the iPhone 12. Since the iPhone 12 will feature the A14 it makes perfect sense that there will be no 2020 iPad with a A13X, but instead an A14X, 5G, MiniLED device. It will be a killer machine. It is possible we may see an A13 iPad Air, and an A12 iPad, however.
iPad isn’t space constrained like an iPhone that is why it uses seperate memory chips not stacked. So no need for 5G on SOC they can it can be fully seperate and third party. Now an Apple 4G/LTE modem embedded in SOC might be a different beast and could shipped in non master head product first.
For a moment there, because of the line break of the title, I thought it said: "iPad Pro with 'A14X' plus 16-inch" and I was like yeahhh... a 16-inch "plus" pro model for the artists/ animators!! Then I realised my misreading...
When Apple introduce A13, they did not over marketing like A12 instead list up presentation that what it can do but presenter never go over it some of them.
Which means A13 was just minor upgrade from A12.
So there is no reason Apple will create A13X at this point.
A14 will be 5nm and Apple can add more graphic stuff in A14X. And when it lunch they will all over it as usual.
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It's not the "worst product they have" just because you bought it thinking it was something that it wasn't. It's a great product, works very well for what it actually is, and you just made a mistake.
Nothing from Mel has made sense in this thread.
And power-hungry.
"iPad Pro with 'A14X' plus 16-inch"
and I was like yeahhh... a 16-inch "plus" pro model for the artists/ animators!!
Then I realised my misreading...