There's also the issue of competing standards, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision, Atmos and DTSx. Most manufacturers are picking sides and very often don't support one or the other. In my case the TCL 6 series in the master suite offers Dolby Vision but not HDR10+. The Samsung Q80R in the family room is exactly the opposite. As I typically do my movie streaming in the family room I wouldn't see any benefit to Dolby Vision on AppleTV+ anyway AFAIK.
Also don't let anyone tell you streaming a 4K Dolby Vision or HDR10+ movie from a streaming service (even Apple's) is the same quality as playing a BlueRay UltraHD disc either. It is not. BlueRay UltraHD is a plainly superior experience, something I did not know would be so evident before being loaned a player and a couple of movies. I''ve now bought one for myself, a refurbed Sony UBP-X700 for less than $80 (Ebay) . What a huge difference with the right content, and easily moved between TV's. Oddly enough tho Dolby Vision BlueRay content does not look better and in fact looks worse to me on the TCL than HDR10 does on the Samsung.
This is the reason you do not what the streaming app in our TV, Keep the TV dumb, and add the smarts with an external box which has a powerful processor and add the capabilities via software.
Agreed, but where do you get such a 55"+ TV capable of displaying 4K Dolby Vision and/or HDR10+ without buying smart features too?
Imagine a larger screen iMac, 32 thru 42” in the end Apple will need offer a router again and a server again Apple can not, sit back and let third parties take care of the end user experience.
Wut. No, Apple will likely never sell a server again and I don’t even know how that’s relayed to end-user experience since a server by nature is at the opposite end of the stack.
There's also the issue of competing standards, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision, Atmos and DTSx. Most manufacturers are picking sides and very often don't support one or the other. In my case the TCL 6 series in the master suite offers Dolby Vision but not HDR10+. The Samsung Q80R in the family room is exactly the opposite. As I typically do my movie streaming in the family room I wouldn't see any benefit to Dolby Vision on AppleTV+ anyway AFAIK.
Also don't let anyone tell you streaming a 4K Dolby Vision or HDR10+ movie from a streaming service (even Apple's) is the same quality as playing a BlueRay UltraHD disc either. It is not. BlueRay UltraHD is a plainly superior experience, something I did not know would be so evident before being loaned a player and a couple of movies. I''ve now bought one for myself, a refurbed Sony UBP-X700 for less than $80 (Ebay) . What a huge difference with the right content, and easily moved between TV's. Oddly enough tho Dolby Vision BlueRay content does not look better and in fact looks worse to me on the TCL than HDR10 does on the Samsung.
This is the reason you do not what the streaming app in our TV, Keep the TV dumb, and add the smarts with an external box which has a powerful processor and add the capabilities via software.
Agreed, but where do you get such a 55"+ TV capable of displaying 4K Dolby Vision and/or HDR10+ without buying smart features too?
Just use your HDTV or OLED TV as a dumb display, running everything through your Apple TV. I’ve never used the built in features on my 65”OLED TV. I just plug my TV into my amplifier with HD pass through and Dolby support, and my Apple TV into my amplifier, and my Apple TV plugged into my Internet connection for all the source material. Then my Apple TV sends the Dolby Vision/Dolby Atmos stream through my amplifier, sending the video stream to the TV and the sound output to the 7.1 speakers. Works perfectly.
I did the same for many years, high-end TV plugged into the receiver as an output endpoint only, ATV and other devices as inputs.
Recently got rid of everything tho since 99% of our uses are on the ATV alone, so now it’s just TV, ATV, HomePods. Far less equipment and fuss. Sound isn’t as huge as 5.1 but it’s big enough and life is easier.
The idea of buying a dumb TV and using only external devices for content is good but it may not help in this case. The TV still has the responsibility to decode the HDR10+ or Dolby Vision dynamic metadata, apply the relevant transform, adjust the backlighting, etc. to display the HDR picture to the best of its capabilities to do so. This leaves open the possibility that an otherwise dumb TV can still have bugs in the way it detects, decodes, and processes HDR.
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I did the same for many years, high-end TV plugged into the receiver as an output endpoint only, ATV and other devices as inputs.
Recently got rid of everything tho since 99% of our uses are on the ATV alone, so now it’s just TV, ATV, HomePods. Far less equipment and fuss. Sound isn’t as huge as 5.1 but it’s big enough and life is easier.