After two months, Apple TV+ lacks a breakout hit

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in General Discussion edited January 2020
As Apple's largest ever new service launch, Apple TV+ has brought us a strong stable of good shows. It just hasn't had that all-important breakout hit yet -- but that could be about to change.

Apple TV+ being promoted at an Apple Store
Apple TV+ being promoted at an Apple Store


You can't say that Apple TV+ started quietly. Except that after Apple spent most of the year hyping it up, the service ultimately launched with just a few shows -- and they haven't been gigantic successes.

That's not to say that the shows are poor, or that they haven't been recognized by the likes of the Golden Globes or the Screen Actors Guild.

Out of the whole slate of series that Apple TV+ has rolled out in its first two months, though, none of them have yet become breakout hits. None of them have crossed that line into being talked about in mainstream media.

Dickinson
Dickinson


This is because, in most ways, it's one thing to have a good series like "Dickinson." It's another to have one that is watched by a lot of people. And it's yet another to have a show that breaks out into being part of the culture. In other words, there is no Baby Yoda on Apple TV+ yet.

Those breakout hits did happen more often when there were just ABC, CBS and NBC to watch. And it's incredibly rare now that we instead have hundreds of places to see TV.

Only, if you can't manufacture a cultural icon, and if you can only try to persuade enough people to watch your show, both of these things do depend on the series being good. And here, Apple is doing well.

Apple TV+ has plenty of good series

Compare it to any broadcast network's September season, ever, and it's actually quite remarkable how consistently good Apple TV+ series are. The whole reason we all got so used to mid-season replacements every January was that so many September launches would fail.

The definition of a failure on network TV, though, is and always was entirely in the viewing figures, not at all in the quality of the series. Very good shows died on the air before they found their audience. Networks get blamed for pulling shows too soon, yet it's not as if any network wants a show to die. Producer Alan Spencer told AppleInsider that, for instance with his show, his network kept it going.

"ABC showed great patience with 'Sledge Hammer!' because now shows are canceled during the first commercial break," he said.

The pressure on shows is because of the pressure on networks and their need to win the hour slot against their rivals. Apple doesn't have that, it doesn't have to so frantically chase ratings.

The Morning Show
The Morning Show


Apple does know precisely how many people watch any given show, but it isn't then trying to deliver that audience to advertisers. No one sets out to make a poor series, but if Apple TV+ has a dud, it does not have the same urgent reason to pull it after a couple of episodes and burn off the rest on late nights in the summer.

The odd poor series sitting in Apple TV+'s library isn't going to cause a problem. A lot of poor series would. If all you ever saw when you turned on Apple TV+ was dud after dud, each bad show would be cumulatively damaging.

Whereas it only takes a single great show to make a service a success.

Previously on TV

We forget this now, but "House of Cards" was not just a very good Netflix series, it was an advertisement for the service. The success of that single show, the amount of buzz it created, lifted the whole of Netflix and helped get it noticed.

To a lesser degree, "Transparent" did the same for Amazon Prime.

This uplift from a single show is not limited to streaming services, either. HBO has been around since the early 1970s, but the reason you've heard of it is "The Larry Sanders Show" in the 1990s. You may not have seen that series, perhaps you don't even know the name now, but what it did back then was ignite the cable service.

"The Larry Sanders Show" attracted viewers to the service, and the presence of viewers meant that HBO was then also attracting talent. Producers would already have known that HBO supported more interesting fare than network TV, and now they could see that there was an audience.

Apple has attracted talented creatives right from the start. You can be certain that Oprah's phrase of "a billion pockets y'all," or something similar, was said by Apple at every first meeting with every producer.

And you can be certain that every producer was already conscious of how much money Apple has.

No guarantees

The money, the audience, and the lack of adverts interrupting shows, all mean that the Apple TV+ service launched with very good people doing their best to make very good television.

It does not follow automatically that they succeed, but you don't get a hit without trying.

See
See


Right now, Apple TV+ has the likes of "For All Mankind," "Dickinson," and "Snoopy in Space" that are well-received. It's got "See," which has had perhaps the weakest reviews of them all so far, and it has "The Morning Show."

That series is the closest Apple TV+ has to a hit, and it's the only one to be nominated for any awards so far.

Everyone wants a hit

"The Morning Show" is not a breakout hit, though. It is getting mentioned on other TV talk shows, it is getting some news value from its awards and reviews. It's just not yet making such a noise that "Entertainment Tonight" is desperate to feature exclusive news from the set.

For the moment, though, two months into the service, Apple TV+ feels like HBO in its early days. It has a reputation for high quality, but it hasn't had its Larry Sanders or Baby Yoda moment.

Let's not downplay that point about quality, though. Making television is unlike anything Apple has ever done before.






Since November 1, it's brought us ten series across drama, comedy, children's and Oprah's Book Club. Assuming that Oprah Winfrey gets renewed, as her series surely must, then half of that slate is already coming back for a second run.

You can't entirely trust that a show getting a second series got it through being a success. It can just be that the original deal was for more than one run.

Nonetheless, quantitatively it's the sole metric we currently have or are even likely to get unless Apple decides to reveal its ratings.

Qualitatively, more visibly, and actually more surprisingly, none of the series so far have been complete duds.

And that's what is going to get Apple success in television. Its shows are lacking buzz so far, but they're not lacking in quality and we are already seeing how that has changed things.

AppleInsider sources in television long ago told us that Apple had been intent on signing exclusive deals with TV creators and, at launch, it had singularly failed to do that. Now, though, having seen how Apple TV+ works, and knowing from other creatives what is involved, it's changing.

In late December, Apple signed comedy writer and star Sharon Horgan to a first-look deal. And around the same time, filmmaker Alfonso Cuaron similarly signed a multi-year movie deal with Apple.

Neither is as well known on screens as, say, the Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston partnership that produced "The Morning Show."

But the shows and films they make are extraordinarily good, to the extent that both of these deals are true coups for Apple.

Apple TV+ just needs one great hit to get those billion people reaching into their pockets, and that first hit is going to come from attracting more and more talent to the service.



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  • Reply 1 of 58
    So what do you expect? A home run right away?? Expecting a Run away to Mars? Gee
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  • Reply 2 of 58
    I certainly wouldn’t say it doesn’t have a ”break out” hit. TMS has me and my wife addicted, so has Servant. I also watch every other show (and movie) that comes out. Even though some genres are not my habitual cup of tea, the quality I’ve seen so far have me putting some prejudices aside!
    chasmpsych_guyMcnaugha2watto_cobrabshankyojimbo007williamlondonjahbladejony0
  • Reply 3 of 58
    Do you think Apple would green light a show like Breaking Bad?
  • Reply 4 of 58
    Instead of cooking the stimulant methamphetamine Walter White would be cooking the arthritis drug methotrexate.
  • Reply 5 of 58
    I’ve only watched ‘See’ so far. Very edgy, very well done, well-acted, but sagged in the middle (in fairness, that happens with almost every multiple-episode series I’ve watched on Netflix, Amazon, or HBO). 

    I enjoyed it enough to want to watch S2. I’d give it an 8/10. 
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  • Reply 6 of 58
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 13,050member
    Do you think Apple would green light a show like Breaking Bad?
    Of course. Why on earth wouldn’t they?
    watto_cobrajony0
  • Reply 7 of 58
    canukstormcanukstorm Posts: 2,732member
    Do you think Apple would green light a show like Breaking Bad?
    After watching the series See, I don't see why not.  It makes Breaking Bad look tame, in my opinion.
    watto_cobrabadmonkdanhjahbladejony0
  • Reply 8 of 58
    Apple need more quality content.
    In November of this year - all the free annual subscriptions will come up for renewal.
    If Apple doesnt act quick (M&A) - many wont renew.

    Which isn’t much of an issue - They will just have to give away another free year.  It’s nice they 
    have that option (An option Disney and Netflix do not have).

    Its frustrating to see Apple move so slowly on this.

    Im sure they know what they are doing.
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  • Reply 9 of 58
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,519member
    Apple need more quality content.
    In November of this year - all the free annual subscriptions will come up for renewal.
    If Apple doesnt act quickly -- many wont renew.
    Apple has at least another 20 shows and at least as many movies getting ready to debut across the year. I think this is a very sound strategy: a REGULAR pipeline of new shows and movies to try out to augment the renewed stuff. I think by the time "renewal time" comes around, they will have around as many original series operating as Prime and Netflix, so I'm not sure this is a terribly valid concern. My joke has been that in November, 50 million users are accidentally going to spend $5 because they didn't cancel -- and then find that for $5 they don't want to cancel.

    There's already enough solid entertainment on TV+ that I'm not interested in cancelling at present (that could of course change, as you point out). Maybe I'm weird, but I judge stuff like this (and Acorn TV, and Criterion Channel, and Disney+ -- the other three services I am currently subscribed to) on the basis of "do I get $(monthly cost) worth of high-quality, appealing to me entertainment out this?

    Presently, the answer is "yes" -- but if that changes, there are at least three other services (Netflix, Prime Video, Britbox spring to mind) I could "swap" one or more of these services out with for at least a year -- and my overall cost, as I've pointed out elsewhere, would still be far below the cost of even just three months of 98-percent-crap cable TV.
    Its frustrating to see Apple move so slowly on this.

    I'm sure they know what they are doing.
    Slow and long-run has usually (almost, but not quite, exclusively) been their credo. It took the iPod three years to take off as a product, and likewise the iPad has been out since 2011 but has rebounded from a slow 2017 quite nicely to become a major consumer and enterprise replacement for traditional "computers." If Apple chose to offer free Apple TV+ as an ongoing incentive to buy Apple hardware, the company would make back much more in profit than the service costs -- both from increased sales of hardware and from those who enjoy the service through their smart TVs and see $5 as a pittance to pay for stuff they know will always be of high quality -- in short, Apple is following the HBO Go game plan here, which is not the same path as Netflix and Prime, et al.

    To be fair, I agree with the article that Apple would benefit with the paying market by having more "must-see" content for the masses so that they keep paying -- but subsidized by your annual Apple purchases works just as well and may actually be more profitable in the long run, since it could increase the number of people who buy Apple products.
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  • Reply 10 of 58
    Do you think Apple would green light a show like Breaking Bad?
    After watching the series See, I don't see why not.  It makes Breaking Bad look tame, in my opinion.
    Do you think Apple would green light a show like Breaking Bad?
    After watching the series See, I don't see why not.  It makes Breaking Bad look tame, in my opinion.
    Yes - they would.  But in Apple’s Version 

    Walter White would be played by Oprah Winfrey 
    Jessie Pinkmen would be played by Jennifer Aniston. 
    williamlondon
  • Reply 11 of 58
    I was skeptical at first about the content. Sure, a lot of big names but of course everything was an unknown quantity. But, The Morning Show blew me a way. It was not what I expected at all, but was pleasantly surprised. Without knowing who the creatives were besides Ms. Aniston and Witherspoon, the show felt a lot like "ER" to me and lo and behold, one of the main creators of TMS was an EP and director on ER. Good, hard-hitting drama. Just what I needed in this sea of fantasy, sci-fi and horror. I think I'll start "For All Mankind" next. Apple can keep the dramas, coming. If they are of the same high quality, likely I'll watch and renew. Outside of licensing material from the big studios for Apple TV+ (not counting purchases and rentals), Apple only has its creative teams to produce engaging content. Not an easy model, but with their deep pockets, I think they'll be alright. Not everything Netflix produces is a hit, nor Amazon or any other service. I wouldn't expect Apple to produce hits with every show. But I do expect them to keep trying.
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  • Reply 12 of 58
    I certainly wouldn’t say it doesn’t have a ”break out” hit. TMS has me and my wife addicted, so has Servant. I also watch every other show (and movie) that comes out. Even though some genres are not my habitual cup of tea, the quality I’ve seen so far have me putting some prejudices aside!
    They don’t mention Servant enough on AppleInsider. My only complaint about it is the 30 min episode length and the week between episodes.

    Lots of folk talking about TMS of all ages. My only complaint about that show is Bel Powley. Terrible actress. Terrible character.

    I couldn’t make it through the first ep of See. I can’t buy into the concept. It’s just Jason Momoa in a typecast role.
  • Reply 13 of 58
    hentaiboyhentaiboy Posts: 1,252member
    This uplift from a single show is not limited to streaming services, either. HBO has been around since the early 1970s, but the reason you've heard of it is "The Larry Sanders Show" in the 1990s. You may not have seen that series, perhaps you don't even know the name now, but what it did back then was ignite the cable service”.

    I would argue that “The Sopranos” was the show that put HBO on the map, especially internationally.
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  • Reply 14 of 58
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 13,050member
    Apple need more quality content.
    In November of this year - all the free annual subscriptions will come up for renewal.
    If Apple doesnt act quick (M&A) - many wont renew.

    Which isn’t much of an issue - They will just have to give away another free year.  It’s nice they 
    have that option (An option Disney and Netflix do not have).

    Its frustrating to see Apple move so slowly on this.

    Im sure they know what they are doing.
    Why? Apple doesn’t depend on video service revenue, it’s an added bonus. They have more quality shows than Amazon did at launch for sure, so I don’t really see what’s frustrating about it. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 58
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 13,050member
    Do you think Apple would green light a show like Breaking Bad?
    After watching the series See, I don't see why not.  It makes Breaking Bad look tame, in my opinion.
    Do you think Apple would green light a show like Breaking Bad?
    After watching the series See, I don't see why not.  It makes Breaking Bad look tame, in my opinion.
    Yes - they would.  But in Apple’s Version 

    Walter White would be played by Oprah Winfrey 
    Jessie Pinkmen would be played by Jennifer Aniston. 
    Absurd nonsense. I’m going to assume you haven’t seen See and the R-rated content within. There is nothing “Apple” about it. They don’t pen the scripts, they just buy the shows they think people will like to watch from production companies. This is no different than any other network. 

    People seem to enjoy making things more complicated than they are. 
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  • Reply 16 of 58
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 13,050member

    Mcnaugha2 said:
    I certainly wouldn’t say it doesn’t have a ”break out” hit. TMS has me and my wife addicted, so has Servant. I also watch every other show (and movie) that comes out. Even though some genres are not my habitual cup of tea, the quality I’ve seen so far have me putting some prejudices aside!
    They don’t mention Servant enough on AppleInsider. My only complaint about it is the 30 min episode length and the week between episodes.

    Lots of folk talking about TMS of all ages. My only complaint about that show is Bel Powley. Terrible actress. Terrible character.

    I couldn’t make it through the first ep of See. I can’t buy into the concept. It’s just Jason Momoa in a typecast role.
    See isn’t really about Momoa. Once the children age he doesn’t really seem like the main character. And he isn’t identical to his GoT character anyway, other than looking like a Jason Momoa warrior. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 17 of 58
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 13,050member

    hentaiboy said:
    “This uplift from a single show is not limited to streaming services, either. HBO has been around since the early 1970s, but the reason you've heard of it is "The Larry Sanders Show" in the 1990s. You may not have seen that series, perhaps you don't even know the name now, but what it did back then was ignite the cable service”.

    I would argue that “The Sopranos” was the show that put HBO on the map, especially internationally.
    Agreed, Sopranos as a non-traditional, serial, character-driven mob show “made” HBO. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 58
    So what? It must be that your expectations are too high for a first run of television shows. 
    They have great shows and the Golden Globe nominations for the TMS says enough.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 19 of 58
    bageljoeybageljoey Posts: 2,008member
    I certainly wouldn’t say it doesn’t have a ”break out” hit. TMS has me and my wife addicted, so has Servant. I also watch every other show (and movie) that comes out. Even though some genres are not my habitual cup of tea, the quality I’ve seen so far have me putting some prejudices aside!
    I’m not sure if you and the author have the same definition of “break out hit.”  It doesn’t mater how good a show is, it isn’t a “breakout hit” if people who don’t have AppleTV don’t hear everybody at work or on the radio talking about it.

    i was going to sign up for the service and get Disney+ later, but with all the buzz for The Mandolorian I flipped. Certainly I will pick up AppleTV eventually, but there isn’t a rush at this point. It’s not like I’m missing out on conversations at work...
  • Reply 20 of 58
    badmonkbadmonk Posts: 1,327member
    Do you think Apple would green light a show like Breaking Bad?
    After watching the series See, I don't see why not.  It makes Breaking Bad look tame, in my opinion.
    Was just going to make a similar comment, See puts the rumor of “Apple being too nice to make compelling media” to bed.  I don’t believe  I ever saw someone masturbate to religious ecstasy while listening to a Lou Reed record on  AMC network.  Sorry spoiler alert.

    The bottom line if it is quality non-breakout stuff Apple will do well.  The TMS has me and my wife hooked, it is better than the Apple haters proclaim.

    Besides what family doesn’t buy a qualifying Apple product annually?
    anantksundaramStrangeDayswatto_cobra
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