New York City has a $10 million cybercrime lab to crack the iPhone

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in General Discussion edited January 2020
In an interview published on Tuesday, Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance Jr. has pulled back the curtain on what it's like trying to access data that's needed by law enforcement on a passcode-protected iPhone.

Image Credit: Samir Abady | Fast Company
Image Credit: Samir Abady | Fast Company


In a lab in New York City, two computers generate random numbers in an effort to guess the passcodes that keep smartphones seized by crime suspects locked down. The challenge is daunting, but not impossible if you can circumvent Apple's limits on attempts. A four-digit key has 10,000 possible combinations, whereas a six-digit key has one million.

To prevent the devices from contacting remote servers or responding to wipe requests, New York City is storing iPhones within a vault-like faraday cage, designed to block electromagnetic waves.

Fast Company has taken an insider's look into at what it's like to try to break into an iPhone.

Apple has anticipated this sort of attack from criminals, which is why it limits the number of times per minute that a passcode can be tried, even after memory chips have been removed from a device. This often requires investigators to look into the suspects life to try to find relevant codes. Birthdays, anniversaries, zip codes and more are all tested, in hopes of breaking into the device to extract useful information.

Law enforcement has been fighting Apple's security measures for some time. When iOS 8 was released, Apple said that they wouldn't provide data extractions in response to search warrants, and would instead provide what it could from the contents of a user's iCloud. Further complicating the matter, is more users passcode-protecting a device. Five years ago, only 52% of the smartphones that the District Attorney's office obtained were locked. Now, they're seeing rates upwards of 82%.

"It had a big impact right away on our cases," district attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. told Fast Company. "The inability to access devices in small cases and big cases was having an impact on our ability to get evidence."

And their success rate isn't getting much better. Vance says his crime lab is able to successfully crack half of the phones they receive. Every time Apple releases a new operating system, the penetration task gets increasingly complex. Often it takes years for the lab to crack a new phone or a new iOS version, well after a case is in court.

Apple helps law enforcement, just not as much as the police might like

Apple takes its users' data seriously, and as a side-effect of that policy, it makes it difficult for Apple devices to be used in criminal investigations. Apple has repeatedly refused to help federal investigators unlock devices, citing that it would undermine the overall security of its hardware.

Apple had also been working on an option that would offer end-to-end encryption of iCloud backups. These backups contain sensitive data, such as contact information, pictures, and texts from iMessage and other messaging apps. Apple scrapped the plans after the FBI demanded that the data stay in a readable format.

The FBI has obtained iCloud data in the past, and continues to do so. According to Apple, In the first half of 2019, U.S. authorities had obtained full device backups of more than 6,000 accounts. Apple turns over data for 90% of the requests it receives. In the second half of 2018, Apple handed over the data for 14,000 accounts by court order.

However, a user can still clear their iCloud and on-device data remotely, thwarting any attempts at gaining useful evidence for an investigation.

Because of this, investigators have had to take new precautions and employ new methods to handling digital evidence. The New York City lab is a larger scale example, with smaller police forces using devices from Cellebrite in "kiosks" available to investigators.

Vance hopes that U.S. Attorney General William Barr, who demanded Apple unlock a pair of iPhones related to a shooting, can make headway.

"That's not their call," Vance says in the interview. "And it's not their call because there's something bigger here at issue rather than their individual determination of where to balance privacy and public safety."
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  • Reply 1 of 36
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,093member
    If this isn't just an big advertisement for an iPhone, I don't know what is.  Does one remotely hear of anything about Android having to go through any of this.  No.

    Fact is... if you care about security and privacy, get an iPhone.  If you don't care at all, Android is right up your alley.
    StrangeDaysjahblademwhitejony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 36
    10 Million and they got a software that keeps track of their queue, and another one that pings when software updates are there. All in a cozy RF-free environment. A bargain, I’d say. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 36
    Fred257Fred257 Posts: 237member
    Apple is helping criminals.  Why?
    chemengin1
  • Reply 4 of 36
    One might need a reminder that governments of the world aren’t always doing the right thing. Not in the past and certainly not today, the future isn’t looking any better either. 

    Claiming that Apple is helping criminals is a joke of an argument, they turn over the iCloud backup, for most this is the full contents of the phone. Encryption doesn’t have a motive, it’s math. There is no such thing as a back door for the good guys. (And I argue that the “good guys”, aren’t always good.)
    edited January 2020 StrangeDaysretrogustochiajahblademwhitehawkpride147viclauyycjony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 36
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member
    Fred257 said:
    Apple is helping criminals.  Why?
    Not all stock brokers are criminals. 
    jony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 36
    Fred257 said:
    Apple is helping criminals.  Why?
    Because you’re being ignorant? I want privacy and security, and am not a criminal. 

    “Gravity is helping criminals! 

    “Oxygen is helping criminals!
    edited January 2020 fastasleepchiapscooter63jahblademwhitehawkpride147viclauyycjony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 36
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,093member
    Fred257 said:
    Apple is helping criminals.  Why?
    And you're trolling... why?
    mwhiteStrangeDaysjony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 36
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,913member
    FBI should invest in tools that crack, accesses criminal's phones and iPhones and provide help to local enforcement agencies to save tax dollars. Why NY police have there own lab and Los Angles and Chicago and and and.
    I am not in favor of Apple create back door which gets leak out and bad actors in world hacking everyone's phones and selling private info on dark web.
  • Reply 9 of 36
    i am all for the end of criminal activities being hidden behind encryption and other forms of locks and walls.

    end all encryption, passcodes, passwords, offline computers, locks on doors - for everyone, every company, every government.

    nope - it only applies to the little individual citizen... those dirty little pieces of trash, the ones who are criminals.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 36
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    Fred257 said:
    Apple is helping criminals.  Why?
    I just read all 10 of your posts here. Whoa, man, get help.
    pscooter63mwhiteStrangeDaysviclauyycjony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 36
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Fred257 said:
    Apple is helping criminals.  Why?
    You appear to suffer from a lack of oxygen entering into your brain.

    Why?
    macseekerpscooter63mwhiteStrangeDaysjony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 12 of 36
    SoliSoli Posts: 10,035member
    Slightly off topic, but is it not possible for Apple to resolve this hole that lets GreyKey and other systems bypass the 10-attempt limit? 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 13 of 36
    kevin keekevin kee Posts: 1,289member
    Fred257 said:
    Apple is helping criminals.  Why?
    It's the opposite mate. Apple is NOT helping criminals.
    EsquireCatsjony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 14 of 36
    chadbagchadbag Posts: 2,000member
    Vance is a little deluded when he says it is not their call.  If is their call and not Vance's or Barr's
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 36
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    sflocal said:
    If this isn't just an big advertisement for an iPhone, I don't know what is.  Does one remotely hear of anything about Android having to go through any of this.  No.

    Fact is... if you care about security and privacy, get an iPhone.  If you don't care at all, Android is right up your alley.
    You didn't read the article did you? It's about Apple and Google smartphones and encryption. 
    CloudTalkinFred257
  • Reply 16 of 36
    sflocal said:
    If this isn't just an big advertisement for an iPhone, I don't know what is.  Does one remotely hear of anything about Android having to go through any of this.  No.

    Fact is... if you care about security and privacy, get an iPhone.  If you don't care at all, Android is right up your alley.
    Did you ignore the information in the source article just so you could be the first person to post?  I ask because your post makes it seem as if you didn't read any of the information in the source article.
    Fred257
  • Reply 17 of 36
    One might need a reminder that governments of the world aren’t always doing the right thing. Not in the past and certainly not today, the future isn’t looking any better either. 

    Claiming that Apple is helping criminals is a joke of an argument, they turn over the iCloud backup, for most this is the full contents of the phone. Encryption doesn’t have a motive, it’s math. There is no such thing as a back door for the good guys. (And I argue that the “good guys”, aren’t always good.)
    Unless your guys in office right?  We’re talking about law enforcement trying to solve crimes.  
  • Reply 18 of 36
    Fred257Fred257 Posts: 237member
    Fred257 said:
    Apple is helping criminals.  Why?
    Because you’re being ignorant? I want privacy and security, and am not a criminal. 

    “Gravity is helping criminals! 

    “Oxygen is helping criminals!
    You’re not a criminal.  But when something happens to someone and they have a warrant Apple is helping criminals by not complying with a Warrant.  They should be sued..
  • Reply 19 of 36
    jd_in_sbjd_in_sb Posts: 1,600member
    Id like to see a list of exactly how that $10 million was spent. I would think outsourcing would have been better and cheaper. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 20 of 36
    SoliSoli Posts: 10,035member
    Fred257 said:
    Fred257 said:
    Apple is helping criminals.  Why?
    Because you’re being ignorant? I want privacy and security, and am not a criminal. 

    “Gravity is helping criminals! 

    “Oxygen is helping criminals!
    You’re not a criminal.  But when something happens to someone and they have a warrant Apple is helping criminals by not complying with a Warrant.  They should be sued..
    How has Apple not complied with warrants? They do not have a skeleton key to access all the devices they make at any time.
    edited January 2020 StrangeDayswatto_cobra
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