Apple software head Craig Federighi explains iPad's trackpad support

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  • Reply 21 of 29
    ITGUYINSD said:
    The whole video makes it sound like that using a touchpad and having a cursor is some sort of revolutionary new technology.  What he means is, after all these years, the iPad can finally do what a PC (or Mac) has done since the beginning of time.
    PCs had command line interfaces at "the beginning of time" in personal computing terms in the late 1970s and early 1980s. There was no graphical user interface available to the general public before the Lisa in 1983, the Mac in 1984 and Windows in 1985.
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  • Reply 22 of 29
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member
    Are these in the latest public beta? I can’t find them.
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  • Reply 23 of 29
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,215member
    ITGUYINSD said:
    pumasalad said:
    "But most interestingly, the cursor will actually change shape and adapt to various UI elements to make it clear what you're pointing at, whether it's a button or a piece of text." ...just like the mouse curser on the Mac. I mean, it's exciting and all to see it coming to the iPad, but this phrase just made me laugh.
    The whole video makes it sound like that using a touchpad and having a cursor is some sort of revolutionary new technology.  What he means is, after all these years, the iPad can finally do what a PC (or Mac) has done since the beginning of time.
    No, they're referring to the size of the I-beam cursor, which does not change size on the Mac. Try it.

    And to "finally do what a PC" could do since the beginning of time...errrnt. First of all, plenty of PCs didn't have or ship with a mouse. But besides that, iPads today can do so, so much more than early PCs and Macintoshes. 
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  • Reply 24 of 29
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,215member

    That is slick.  Watch that video.

    This addresses the awkwardness of touch screen laptops in such an intuitive way that in a few years when everyone has copied it we'll forget that it wasn't obvious until Apple did it.
    My initial reaction is the opposite. Eek. A cursor that changes into the hover button itself and changes shape looks very confusing and disorienting. Where’s my cursor? Oh wait, it’s this light grey shape now.
    I will only know if it works when I play around with it ofcourse, but this looks like a usability nightmare to me.
    Yes, to you - a guy who has never used it. Less so to people who have actually, you know, used the thing they're critiquing.
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  • Reply 25 of 29
    GeorgeBMacgeorgebmac Posts: 11,421member
    daven said:
    Are Bluetooth keyboards supported or only keyboards that use the dock? I ask because I think this is an interesting scenario. A user may find a keyboard and mouse/trackpad support unnecessary when mobile and only want keyboard and mouse support when at a desk. So they buy a basic iPad case and have a stand for desk use where they can use their existing Magic Trackpad and Bluetooth keyboard. 

    All iPads support bluetooth -- even those without the smart connector.   Logitech has been making a bluetooth keyboard for them for several years now.

    I don't see any reason why that couldn't be done.  The smart cover can also double as a stand.


    How to use a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad with iPad and iPadOS 13.4



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  • Reply 26 of 29
    bigpicsbigpics Posts: 1,397member
    What... what's that sound? Oh it's Google turning on their xerox machines.
    Why Google? they haven't done anything to make tablets operate like something other than big Android phones in years.

    And attempts to integrate Android and Chrome pretty much ran into a ditch from all I know, so Chrome OS development hasn't been doing much of anything (has it?).

    I would be quite surprised to see Android tabOS. But I expect the Microsoft Surface team is already looking long and hard at this
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  • Reply 27 of 29
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,487member
    Craig is their best presenter, hands down. Also, this feature looks *really* well done, to the point I've completely reevaluated my opinion on non-screen input methods for iOS. Looks like they nailed it.
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  • Reply 28 of 29
    AI_liasai_lias Posts: 437member
    What... what's that sound? Oh it's Google turning on their xerox machines.
    It's the sound of Apple copying Microsoft after deriding the Surface tablets. Sure, some people on here will find small differences between implementation, but that is still true. 
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  • Reply 29 of 29
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,713member
    AI_lias said:
    What... what's that sound? Oh it's Google turning on their xerox machines.
    It's the sound of Apple copying Microsoft after deriding the Surface tablets. Sure, some people on here will find small differences between implementation, but that is still true. 
    Not in the slightest. Firstly, Apple had a keyboard from the very first iPad. Well before any Surface tablet came out (and those are not really tablets, as many reviewers will tell you. They’re just thin Windows notebooks.). I have it. Secondly, you can’t effectively use a Surface Pro without a keyboard and mouse or trackpad. It’s basically impossible. I’ve used them over the years, and believe me, you really can’t, despite a few people saying otherwise.

    thats why Apple is bifurcating the usage. If you want to use it, you can buy a keyboard with a trackpad, where the cursor appears as normal. But without that, no cursor appears. The file system is in a folder. Use it if your want, or ignore it. Same thing with the multitasking which gets more sophisticated every year.

    apple is most definitely not copying the Surface Pro, which sell in very small numbers, and its cheaper copys from the rest of the computer industry never grew to become more than about 10% of portable sales. It’s believed that Apple sells more iPads than the entire Windows industry sells 2 and 1’and Windows tablets.
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