CNET asks a thousand of Apple employees if they feel overworked.
Four of them say, “Yeah, a little …” CNET writes that a number (what number exactly?) of Apple employees feel overworked despite Apple … yada yada yada.
How is it different for Apple employees who are working from home with kids than it is for anybody else working from home with kids?
Despite not having to commute an hour each way my wife is putting in MORE hours working from home than when she goes to the office. Similar to Apple employees, she is in a global business and is constantly talking to people overseas, in Europe and Asia.
Yes, having children while working from home presents different challenges. Those same challenges exist for most of the people she is communicating with day and night. People understand because they are living it, too.
1. This is an Apple-oriented website, so they talk about Apple.
2. Your wife should be strict with her working hours, particularly in this situation, if only for her own mental health and general wellbeing, nevermind working for free to make someone else more money. It is your job to remind her of this and to get her to stop and have a break and to to spend time with the family. If she has an evening call, then she can free up time in the day to compensate.
3. The issue really is when you are a parent, and your managers/supervisors are not parents, and simply cannot understand what this situation is like - combining childcare, home-schooling and normal work, in a stressful situation. If Apple are still expecting a full day's work out of employees, then everything they say about being supportive is just that - words, without meaning.
4. A lot of people in the comments simply have no understanding or compassion.
There's a price for every decision we make. If you decide to have kids, you pay the price of your own decision, not someone else.
I really don't think that this is a standard expected situation is it?
And capitalism needs workers for the future as well, society needs children. Or maybe you'd like them all to be imported from Mexico, India, China and so on?
Okay, doctors, nurses, first responders, healthcare workers are overworked, NOT Apple employees working at home. All this article has done is make Apple employees look like mewling quims (thank you, Loki).
I so agree with you here. Seriously, screw these pansy Apple workers complaining. Doctors, nurses and more are literally RISKING THEIR LIVES every time they go to work for over 13 hours a day as they see people die right in front of them. They have no right to complain.
Ah, the old 'someone else has it worse, so you should shut up' argument.
There's a price for every decision we make. If you decide to have kids, you pay the price of your own decision, not someone else.
I really don't think that this is a standard expected situation is it?
And capitalism needs workers for the future as well, society needs children. Or maybe you'd like them all to be imported from Mexico, India, China and so on?
All because people do not feel like this will be reality doesn’t make it so. It’s fairly well known, going in, the divide between time and priorities when having kids. It is a sacrifice in certain areas and no.. you do not get everything. With that being said, these parents need to get their shit together and Apple needs to learn how to help manage them. That doesn’t mean flex work and delivery expectations though.
As mentioned somewhere above, these people should be grateful they have a job and learn how to make it work. Their work/life balance is mostly their problem at this point for a 9-5 job. This isn’t an Apple is over working them problem, this is an employees learning to manage life and managers learning how to work with absurdly flexible (non enforced) schedules problem.
There's a price for every decision we make. If you decide to have kids, you pay the price of your own decision, not someone else.
I really don't think that this is a standard expected situation is it?
And capitalism needs workers for the future as well, society needs children. Or maybe you'd like them all to be imported from Mexico, India, China and so on?
How is it different for Apple employees who are working from home with kids than it is for anybody else working from home with kids?
Despite not having to commute an hour each way my wife is putting in MORE hours working from home than when she goes to the office. Similar to Apple employees, she is in a global business and is constantly talking to people overseas, in Europe and Asia.
Yes, having children while working from home presents different challenges. Those same challenges exist for most of the people she is communicating with day and night. People understand because they are living it, too.
1. This is an Apple-oriented website, so they talk about Apple.
The original article is from CNET, not an Apple-oriented site, so why the focus on Apple employees?
How is it different for Apple employees who are working from home with kids than it is for anybody else working from home with kids?
Despite not having to commute an hour each way my wife is putting in MORE hours working from home than when she goes to the office. Similar to Apple employees, she is in a global business and is constantly talking to people overseas, in Europe and Asia.
Yes, having children while working from home presents different challenges. Those same challenges exist for most of the people she is communicating with day and night. People understand because they are living it, too.
2. Your wife should be strict with her working hours, particularly in this situation, if only for her own mental health and general wellbeing, nevermind working for free to make someone else more money. It is your job to remind her of this and to get her to stop and have a break and to to spend time with the family. If she has an evening call, then she can free up time in the day to compensate.
So much going on here. My wife gets compensated for the work she does and doesn’t work “for free”. I have extreme confidence in her judgment of when she needs to work and when she doesn’t need to. I’m curious to know what makes you think you have a better understanding of how she should run her day than she does. FWIW, she is an HR executive at a Fortune 50 company. Unless you have similar experience I’m going to go out on a limb here and say you don’t know what you’re talking about.
How is it different for Apple employees who are working from home with kids than it is for anybody else working from home with kids?
Despite not having to commute an hour each way my wife is putting in MORE hours working from home than when she goes to the office. Similar to Apple employees, she is in a global business and is constantly talking to people overseas, in Europe and Asia.
Yes, having children while working from home presents different challenges. Those same challenges exist for most of the people she is communicating with day and night. People understand because they are living it, too.
3. The issue really is when you are a parent, and your managers/supervisors are not parents, and simply cannot understand what this situation is like - combining childcare, home-schooling and normal work, in a stressful situation. If Apple are still expecting a full day's work out of employees, then everything they say about being supportive is just that - words, without meaning.
Oh, is that all it is? The managers and supervisors aren’t parents? How do you know that?
In my wife’s case, her “supervisor” is married and has two children, lives in Shanghai and was forced to work from home long before anyone in the US was. But you’re saying the issue is that her manager doesn’t understand. Sure.
Are you one of the Apple employees interviewed by CNET?
That is the reason most of company not like their employee works from home.
The corporation think employee should be at office due to some of their employee are mentally can not focus when they work from home.
The company exist only 1 reason. Make money. make money to pay your salary and stock option and bonus. yeah also for the dividend for stock holder.
Some people said those stock holder take too much money from company earning, Well then buy you company stock. Those people who buying company stock to support your company to exist. Or your company pay interest to bank loan.
The company which you working for hire you. Not your family. you can't handle current situation then take vacation. But you don't to take it because you can't go anywhere.
The company give you vacation benefit is not for your travel plan. it exist for you to away from your work so you can refresh from stress.
As long as your company allow take vacation now then take it take care your family.
The company still pay you.
Currently even big tech corp will freeze to hire this year and maybe next year as well.
This will screw college graduate kids within couple of years.
If your company did not cut your working hours to cut your paycheck or just cut your paycheck 10-20% then they are seriously thinking about layoff soon if economy start again.
Keep in mind, you paid from company based on what you agreed. If you don't like what company did or doing to you then you can look for other company to work.
No one from the company hold you back. You don't leave this company because what you paid(include benefit) for your workload is much better then other company you already worked for or heard of.
Think about it.. What do you think you are so special about what you doing all day in office compare to college kids just graduated and replace you with much cheaper salary? Even white color jobs are export to other country now.
I am working with India IBM GS support that deal with most of USA bank and financial companies. These job used to be in USA around 7-10 years ago.
Sometimes people wish too much about I don't do this and that.. Well soon enough there is no jobs that you can even choose.
The original article is from CNET, not an Apple-oriented site, so why the focus on Apple employees?
So, you didn't take the time to read the original article. It isn't about Apple and it isn't focused on Apple employees. Apple isn't even mentioned in the title of the article. It's about workers in Silicone Valley and there are people various companies interviewed.
The original article is from CNET, not an Apple-oriented site, so why the focus on Apple employees?
So, you didn't take the time to read the original article. It isn't about Apple and it isn't focused on Apple employees. Apple isn't even mentioned in the title of the article. It's about workers in Silicone Valley and there are people various companies interviewed.
I am sure that work-at-home parents are kept more than busy caring for pre-school kids.
But, the school age kids may be even more work! From my own experience, I got recruited to act as teacher by my grandson's parents who quickly became overwhelmed with the demands placed on them and their kid by his school when it switched to cyber schooling.
Instead of a real cyber school with a teachers and a set schedule with the associated structure, they simply hand out assignments and recommend videos to watch in place of their teaching. And, for many kids that lack of structure is devastating. Plus, kids tend to associate the assignments with "homework" and think they can get it all done in a few minutes like they did with homework (much of which was already completed during school study halls). But now the assignments are meant to fill up the day -- because they are replacing the school day.
Essentially what the school did was replace teachers with parents and grandparents. And many are less prepared to deal with it than even the kids!
As a former supervisor told me when I complained about company policies and customer service, “Be thankful you even have a job."
My boss had a better line when I whined: "If it was easy, anybody could do it". It shut down my whining immediately. I never did think of a decent response -- other than to sit down, shut up and start doing the job.
But, this is yet another illustration of a societal problem we have yet to adequately deal with: child care.
When I was growing up the man worked and the woman kept the home and raised the kids. But now they both work and there's nobody left to care for the kids. Day care and school became the parents. And, it's one of the main reasons for the pay gap between men and woman: when the kids get sick it is still, typically, the woman who has to take time off from work to care for the sick kid. That not only impairs her value to the organization on a day-to-day level (and thus her salary) but, while the guy is building his career and reputation, the woman is not able to do the same while she juggles multiple priorities. That is:
"A man cannot serve two masters" -- but today it is even more true of the women. But they have to do it anyway. So all three (the job, the kids, and the woman) get short changed.
I suspect that eventually we will find a suitable answer. But at this point there doesn't seem to be any good or easy answers. And this social distancing thing is simply exaggerating all the existing problems.
The original article is from CNET, not an Apple-oriented site, so why the focus on Apple employees?
So, you didn't take the time to read the original article. It isn't about Apple and it isn't focused on Apple employees. Apple isn't even mentioned in the title of the article. It's about workers in Silicone Valley and there are people various companies interviewed.
Sure I did. I misread the comment.
You read the article that wasn't focused on Apple but somehow managed to say it was focused on Apple when trying to prove whatever point you were trying to make ..... Not reading the the article and commenting on its content doesn't look good. Being intentionally dishonest just so you can be right looks far worse.
The lack of empathy in this thread is astounding. This is a difficult time for everyone. It's okay if people what to talk about the challenges they are facing. They shouldn't have to quit for not liking the situation or be told to be quiet. If you don't face the same challenges then just move on. No need to be a jerk.
The lack of empathy in this thread is astounding. This is a difficult time for everyone. It's okay if people what to talk about the challenges they are facing. They shouldn't have to quit for not liking the situation or be told to be quiet. If you don't face the same challenges then just move on. No need to be a jerk.
Well, I guess you never worked with those none stop winning employee.
I would recommend watch the last rocky movie. In that movie, rocky talked his son in outside of his restaurant..
Life is not easy. Every one want more money and built good life but no one want work hard..
No one make current your situation other then your decision made course of your life pass.
Unless you are working for the front line like doctor and nurse, first responder, Simply saying, Grow up man..
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CNET asks a thousand of Apple employees if they feel overworked.
CNET writes that a number (what number exactly?) of Apple employees feel overworked despite Apple … yada yada yada.
So much going on here. My wife gets compensated for the work she does and doesn’t work “for free”. I have extreme confidence in her judgment of when she needs to work and when she doesn’t need to. I’m curious to know what makes you think you have a better understanding of how she should run her day than she does. FWIW, she is an HR executive at a Fortune 50 company. Unless you have similar experience I’m going to go out on a limb here and say you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Oh, is that all it is? The managers and supervisors aren’t parents? How do you know that?
In my wife’s case, her “supervisor” is married and has two children, lives in Shanghai and was forced to work from home long before anyone in the US was. But you’re saying the issue is that her manager doesn’t understand. Sure.
Are you one of the Apple employees interviewed by CNET?
From my own experience, I got recruited to act as teacher by my grandson's parents who quickly became overwhelmed with the demands placed on them and their kid by his school when it switched to cyber schooling.