Apple TV hardware is a great example of Apple's full-stack integration, and is overlooked

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The Apple TV set-top box doesn't have giant market penetration in a world flush with cheaper alternatives. But like the iPad, the hardware practically demonstrates how Apple goes above and beyond in developing its products.

Apple TV 4K
Apple TV 4K


Apple is legendary for its development and tight control of both the software and the hardware on all the devices it creates. There are a lot of benefits that come along with this, but controlling Apple TV is one of the most gleaming examples of the Apple ecosystem and its integration that is oft-overlooked.

Apple TV is an accessory and portal to various content, but Apple has put so much emphasis on the details. While these details are present in all of Apple's products, the amount of work going into just controlling the Apple TV shows the lengths Apple will go.

Shunning the norm

Before looking at what Apple has been able to do, let's look at what is the norm in the connected TV/set-top box market.

Most connected TVs have about three ways to control it. You have the remote that is included with the TV which has the most options, you often have a manufacturer's iPhone app for digital control, and occasionally support for Amazon Alexa or Google Assistant.

Apple TV with Siri Remote
Apple TV with Siri Remote


If you have a set-top box then you likely have a Roku or Amazon's Fire TV -- both of which have a bundled remote. The Roku remote has a full keyboard and of course the Roku app to control it.

The Amazon and Roku approach isn't bad. Both are fairly progressive in the lightning-paced world of remote controls. But they pale in comparison to what Apple users are treated to when they buy into Apple's ecosystem.

Hard to put a price on it

Apple likes to control the entire stack of software and hardware for a coherent user experience. The iPhone is the key example, and the Apple TV has the same philosophy.

Apple TV has a unique remote bundled with a glass surface atop an aluminum body. The remote is charged via the same Lightning cable used for your iPhone so an extra cable isn't necessary. It has a touch-sensitive surface for swiping through the interface as everyone has become accustomed to on their iPhones.

The Siri Remote is controversial, part for its fragility, part for its non-traditional interface. Those not willing to change the user interface paradigm on a television remote have many other ways to control Apple TV, including several Siri Remote alternatives.

Apple itself is not without solutions. The aluminum remote that shipped with the second and third generation Apple TVs still work on the fourth generation unit. They're getting a little harder to find at this point, but if you need a basic solution, that's the Apple-made way to go.

Apple also makes an iPhone and iPad app to control the Apple TV, in the Remote app. It is a free download from the App Store and it mimics the physical Siri Remote. It is another helpful way to control the Apple TV that puts Apple on-par with other alternatives such as Roku.

One of the best examples of how Apple is able to tightly integrate hardware and software is how it integrates the Control Center on iPhone and iPad with the Apple TV. The Remote Control Center widget will automatically discover Apple TV's on the network and make them quick and easy to access from iOS and iPadOS devices. Not possible without controlling the hardware of both devices and the software.

Siri being used to pause the Apple TV
Siri being used to pause Apple TV


Siri, Apple's virtual assistant that spans iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple TV, HomePod, and Apple Watch is also capable of controlling Apple TV. If you ever have to get up while watching TV, just hop up and say "Hey Siri, pause the living room Apple TV" and Siri will do just that while you grab a snack, a restroom break, or let your dogs in from outside.

Apple TV controls on the iPhone and iPad

The pinnacle of Apple's deep integration is the lock screen controls on the iPhone or iPad. When watching something on Apple TV, playback controls appear on the lock screen whenever you wake your phone. You can easily see without unlocking your phone what you're watching, what room you're watching it in, the ability to skip forward or back ten seconds, audio/subtitle controls, volume adjustments, and a quick-launch button for the remote app.

It is so well implemented that most users just discover it naturally when they wake their phone while watching the TV. It isn't burdensome or something one ever has to think about. But it is welcomed to have the controls front-and-center on the device you already have in your hand.

And, if you're so inclined, the remote app works on the iPod touch too. When sometimes lesser universal remotes can cost hundreds of dollars, you can get most of the way there with a $199 iPod touch.

Apple TV and Apple Watch

Apple TV controls magically appear on Apple Watch
Apple TV controls magically appear on Apple Watch


Going one step further, those same controls appear on Apple Watch. At this point, you don't even need your phone or have to launch the Remote app on your watch. Just from the home screen or your Siri watch face the controls appear. If you use HomeKit, Apple TV can be integrated into scenes as well. Whether to play, pause, or start playing music based on specific criteria.

The fact all of these devices talk to one another and are configured and synced all with minimal to no user intervention is a testament to Apple's quality in blending the software and hardware and weaving it throughout all of its own devices. Apple took this further with the step of tvOS 12. Apple TV got its own version of continuity, allowing the easy entry of text and passwords on nearby iPhones and iPads with minimal user interaction,

While it seems simple enough, sometimes features like this require a lot more effort than people realize to create that seamless experience. That password and text entry process is as good example as any.

Here is what the user sees -- you or a friend are in an app on the Apple TV and you click a text field or even a password field. Your iPhone vibrates and you have a notification to enter text. You then use the on-screen keyboard on your phone to enter that text much quicker than when using the Siri Remote. If entering a password, you can open iCloud passwords or use your password manager. Simple and easy.

Apple TV controls on iPhone
Apple TV controls on iPhone


But this feature isn't nearly as cut and dried as one may think. Apple needs to think about how to determine which devices to prompt for text or passwords, should it use Bluetooth, and if it uses Bluetooth, would it show for people nearby or in an adjacent room or apartment and not make sense. Apple could use Apple IDs, but then guests would be out in the cold. Or it could simply make the user pair their phone with the Apple TV before it can use it.

Apple actually uses almost all of these. For the average user who is at home, it will popup to those who are home who are signed in to the same iCloud account. It will automatically detect which app you in when opening the Continuity keyboard and prompt you with suggestions in the QuickType toolbar based on that app. So when you go to enter your Netflix password, it will automatically suggest that, or let you go into your password management app yourself.

When a guest is over, it is more complicated. It actually uses the Siri Remote to detect your friend's iPhone that is signed into their own iCloud account. The Apple TV knows they are the person who is using the Apple TV Siri Remote and triggers the notification to enter text on their phone. When that comes up, it puts a pairing code on the TV to ensure it is communicating to the correct device and then allows them to enter their own long and secure password the same as you.

To get all of this done, Apple is leaning on its control of the stack. Apple is tapping into Bluetooth signals, iCloud accounts, Wi-Fi, iOS notifications, password managers, and more to accomplish all of this, as seamlessly as possible.

Attention to detail is easy to overlook

Apple TV
Apple TV 4K


These details are very hard to label. Apple can't easily demonstrate these features in marketing, or on the side of the box. Users have to see the features in operation to absorb the impact of Apple's choices. You can't particularly describe these features and they remain only one small part of a single product in Apple's ecosystem.

AirDrop with U1-based prioritization, shared iCloud clipboard between all a user's devices, or how Night Shift, True Tone, and brightness all work together to keep your display optimized for the environment are more examples of these coherent experiences that Apple creates that are hard to pin down or describe but greatly elevate devices far above competition. They aren't apparent on the surface, but they make a difference.

When you pay attention, you start to notice the sheer amount of time, effort, and detail that Apple bakes into everything it creates. And for that, it doesn't get nearly enough credit.
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  • Reply 1 of 51
    mld53amld53a Posts: 22member
    Why can’t the app control volume like the physical remote can? That is an annoying oversight. 
    williamlondon
  • Reply 2 of 51
    neilmneilm Posts: 987member
    One more way to control the ATV: an Apple wireless keyboard can be paired to it. Great way to enter passwords reliably when you need to, plus the cursor keys are handy for navigation. 
    chasmcornchipwatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 51
    mike1mike1 Posts: 3,286member
    I am constantly amazed at the video quality of my ATV 4K. I'd swear the HD shows that are upscaled look virtually as good as most native 4K content. Night and day better than the video quality of my TVs built-in 4K streaming capability.
    edited June 2020 chasmlolliverwatto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 51
    I just want the new device to show up. 
    foregoneconclusionScot1lolliverwilliamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 51
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,913member
    Since Apple controls hardware/software and price of Apple TV box, why not upgrade it's internals(CPU/GPU,WiFi,BT,RAM,remote,etc) every alternate year ? It's about time for upgrade and hope happens in 2020.
    williamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 51
    kstinnett said:
    I just want the new device to show up. 
    Yeah, it's been over a month since the Jon Prosser rumor of an A12X ATV being ready for release "at any time". 
    lolliverwatto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 51
    neilmneilm Posts: 987member
    kstinnett said:
    I just want the new device to show up. 
    Yeah, it's been over a month since the Jon Prosser rumor of an A12X ATV being ready for release "at any time". 
    Which would be fine, except that there's nothing I want that my ATV 4K doesn't already do.
    razorpitcornchipwilliamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 51
    entropysentropys Posts: 4,166member
    neilm said:
    kstinnett said:
    I just want the new device to show up. 
    Yeah, it's been over a month since the Jon Prosser rumor of an A12X ATV being ready for release "at any time". 
    Which would be fine, except that there's nothing I want that my ATV 4K doesn't already do.
    I think it needs three things:
    1: a lower price
    2: a lower price
    3: a lower price

    otherwise it is the best streaming box out there. It’s closest competitor is the Nvidia shield. At the Apple TV price it comes with a game controller as well as the remote. Drop the Apple TV AUD$50 and it would be go gangbusters.

    muthuk_vanalingambikerdudewilliamlondon
  • Reply 9 of 51
    mknelsonmknelson Posts: 1,125member
    mld53a said:
    Why can’t the app control volume like the physical remote can? That is an annoying oversight. 
    Because the remote has an infrared transmitter and your phone doesn't?

    It would be able to do it by changing the digital audio the box is sending, but that's about it. It wouldn't be able to change the actual volume of your speakers.
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  • Reply 10 of 51
    mknelsonmknelson Posts: 1,125member
    The Airplay/Apple music functionality is pretty amazing.

    I regularly use my phone to set Airplay on the downstairs AppleTV to stream music to my Airport Express AirPlay connected speakers in my bedroom (need a cheap Airplay hub to replace the discontinued Airport Express, please!)

    Its funny how you can select Airplay on your phone and continue playing an album you started on your Phone on the AppleTV, but I don't think the reverse works.
    cornchipwatto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 51
    mariowincomariowinco Posts: 112member
    The glass remote is crappy at best. Almost unusable for the three of us. Sold ours (overpriced) ATV HD after three months of use and looking for alternatives. The old Atv still doing its job pretty well in the end.
    williamlondondocno42
  • Reply 12 of 51
    Andrew_OSUAndrew_OSU Posts: 573member, editor
    mld53a said:
    Why can’t the app control volume like the physical remote can? That is an annoying oversight. 
    It can! Just depends on your setup. I use the Sonos Beam soundbar and it gives me the option in the app and on my lock screen to control the volume. If it needs IR or something you’re out of luck on the app. 
    watto_cobradocno42
  • Reply 13 of 51
    Andrew_OSUAndrew_OSU Posts: 573member, editor
    wood1208 said:
    Since Apple controls hardware/software and price of Apple TV box, why not upgrade it's internals(CPU/GPU,WiFi,BT,RAM,remote,etc) every alternate year ? It's about time for upgrade and hope happens in 2020.
    Primarily because it doesn’t need the updates that frequently. Then we’d have customers constantly annoyed it is out of date. A new one will come soon and push boundaries further. 
    jony0razorpitlolliverStrangeDayswilliamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 14 of 51
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,368member
    I have no problem with the functionality of the ATV remote. My only complaint is the size, texture, and non-obvious orientation of the thing. It's way too small for non-baby hands, too slippery, and when in a darkened room especially, it's too easy to grab it upside down.  Heck, I was using my ATV two nights ago and every time I'd place it on my leg it would immediately slip off and find its way between the sofa cushion as if magnetically attracted to the gap. I don't know what kind of strange material the ATV remote is made from, but when you get it near sofa cushions, it's like a prairie dog that just spotted a coyote, zipping right down into its burrow.  Maybe Apple makes these things from recycled prairie dogs, meerkats, or some other sort of burrowing rodent. I'll have to read the microscopic text on the back of the box and see what it says. That may explain a lot of things.
    chasmrazorpitcornchipmuthuk_vanalingamlolliverStrangeDayswilliamlondonbeowulfschmidtAI_lias
  • Reply 15 of 51
    ivanhivanh Posts: 597member
    mld53a said:
    Why can’t the app control volume like the physical remote can? That is an annoying oversight. 
    connect the TV using HDMI (ARC), it may help.

    chasmwatto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 51
    OferOfer Posts: 241unconfirmed, member
    Two things need to done to make it a truly worthwhile and usable streaming box:

    1. Fix the remote. The current one is crap. A perfect example of style over usability.
    2. Lower the price. It is significantly overpriced.
    razorpitmariowincowilliamlondondocno42
  • Reply 17 of 51
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,303member
    neilm said:
    One more way to control the ATV: an Apple wireless keyboard can be paired to it. Great way to enter passwords reliably when you need to, plus the cursor keys are handy for navigation. 
    Great tip. Actually any BT keyboard can be used, so if you want to have a keyboard in the living room for your older Apple TV, just pick up any old thing, it will work fine.
    cornchipwatto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 51
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,303member

    The glass remote is crappy at best. Almost unusable for the three of us. Sold ours (overpriced) ATV HD after three months of use and looking for alternatives. The old Atv still doing its job pretty well in the end.
    I'm not having any trouble with it, but I've learned how to detect the tactile area from the glossy area by feel, which helps a lot in the dark. Those who say its a bad design will get very little argument from me, but its actual functionality is great. Hopefully when Apple brings out a new ATV they will also sell (available separately for others) a redesigned remote.
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  • Reply 19 of 51
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,303member

    Ofer said:
    Two things need to done to make it a truly worthwhile and usable streaming box:

    2. Lower the price. It is significantly overpriced.
    It's not.

    It's only "overpriced" in the sense that Apple doesn't subsidize the cost (as Google and Roku and Amazon have all admitted to doing) through collecting and selling your data.

    In fact, you can generally buy a "non-smart" 4K or HDTV (not much in the way of choice, but they do exist) for much less than a "smart" TV, and then use privacy-respecting and security-enhanced Apple TV for the brains instead of data-collecting and data-sharing TV manufacturers and other boxes makers. Or you can buy (and pay for) the "smart" model and just turn off all of the "smart" features and let Apple handle that.

    For the longevity of the unit, the versatility, the support and the aforementioned security/privacy, our Apple TV 4K was a bargain investment that has really paid off IMO.
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  • Reply 20 of 51
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member
    Would be nice if you could include it in Shortcuts. I’d like it to set the audio output to my HomePods since it always loses connection to them.
    cornchipwatto_cobra
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