A bit more zoom power in the phone‘s camera would be nice. The current zoom is impressive, but some competitors go a bit further and I’ve seen more of a need for it as I take more outdoor shots.
Just zoom it in the editor, and save.
I assume you are speaking about digital zoom.
Increased optical zoom would be nice, but if that’s no longer physically possible I imagine the resolution of the pixels will continue to improve.
??? I assume you mean the number of pixels on the sensor since a pixel will always have a resolution of one pixel.
Increasing the number of pixels is not a guarantee of better image quality. As the pixels get smaller on the sensor they are more prone to noise, and as we’ve seen in the last several years, the image processing plays as much of a role as the sensor itself.
A few years ago we took a trip and I brought with a canon point and shoot camera. Nominally the sensor and lens were better than my 6s but the pics taken on my 6s were better quality.
Whatever means are most practical and produce best results I presume Apple will use to increase the quality and resolution of their camera system’s image.
A bit more zoom power in the phone‘s camera would be nice. The current zoom is impressive, but some competitors go a bit further and I’ve seen more of a need for it as I take more outdoor shots.
Just zoom it in the editor, and save.
I assume you are speaking about digital zoom.
Periscope lenses have up to 4x optical zoom, even if some claims like "10x with 100x hybrid" are bull. Still double a 2x lens.
I’ve been saying that apple may not get the current Qualcomm modem. Qualcomm is bending over backwards to make Apple happy. The better the modems they get, particularly if they get them a half cycle before Android makers, could keep Apple with Qualcomm longer than otherwise.
On the other hand Apple has made it very clear they want complete control of the hardware. If Apple Silicon kicks Intel's ass as rumored then Apple might still try to make its own 5G modem, especially if they can get better performance than QC product. You are right though, Qualcomm will do whatever it takes to keep Apple's business.
Perhaps....
But Apple's history is that they would rather go with a high end reliable vendor than do it inhouse.
The trouble is that Intel has been flailing and failing and Qualcomm were greedy jerks thinking that THEY owned the iPhone. While Intel is spinning its wheels, Qualcomm appears to have mended their ways. Or, at least we are hoping that they have
A lot of it has to do with cost. Is it cheaper, in the long run, to buy them, or to spend on R&D and have to deal with the manufacturer of your own designs? It could be a toss-up. So I think Apple takes this into consideration, and then looks at what these bought chips have and don’t have that they need, and whether they can do exactly what they want, or not.
when I was an electronics manufacturer, we were small, and certainly couldn’t afford to design something that had to be made in vast numbers to be cost effective. Apple has the advantage, more and more, of that need for vast manufacturing scales, and can therefore afford to do whatever they have to. Whether they want to is something else.
I’ve been saying that apple may not get the current Qualcomm modem. Qualcomm is bending over backwards to make Apple happy. The better the modems they get, particularly if they get them a half cycle before Android makers, could keep Apple with Qualcomm longer than otherwise.
On the other hand Apple has made it very clear they want complete control of the hardware. If Apple Silicon kicks Intel's ass as rumored then Apple might still try to make its own 5G modem, especially if they can get better performance than QC product. You are right though, Qualcomm will do whatever it takes to keep Apple's business.
Perhaps....
But Apple's history is that they would rather go with a high end reliable vendor than do it inhouse.
The trouble is that Intel has been flailing and failing and Qualcomm were greedy jerks thinking that THEY owned the iPhone. While Intel is spinning its wheels, Qualcomm appears to have mended their ways. Or, at least we are hoping that they have
As part of the deal deal made with Qualcomm, Apple licensed a broad range of Qualcomm's IP. Given the IP that Apple obtained from purchase of "the majority" of Intel's modem business , and what Apple already owns or licenses from other third parties, I would be surprised in Apple doesn't have its own range of modem designs in a few years.
Are you sure of that? We know that because of the court order, which may have been appealed, Qualcomm was ordered to license their patents out in an equitable manner, according to FRAND licensing terms. But whether Apple has licensed any is something I hadn’t heard.
I’ve been saying that apple may not get the current Qualcomm modem. Qualcomm is bending over backwards to make Apple happy. The better the modems they get, particularly if they get them a half cycle before Android makers, could keep Apple with Qualcomm longer than otherwise.
On the other hand Apple has made it very clear they want complete control of the hardware. If Apple Silicon kicks Intel's ass as rumored then Apple might still try to make its own 5G modem, especially if they can get better performance than QC product. You are right though, Qualcomm will do whatever it takes to keep Apple's business.
Perhaps....
But Apple's history is that they would rather go with a high end reliable vendor than do it inhouse.
The trouble is that Intel has been flailing and failing and Qualcomm were greedy jerks thinking that THEY owned the iPhone. While Intel is spinning its wheels, Qualcomm appears to have mended their ways. Or, at least we are hoping that they have
As part of the deal deal made with Qualcomm, Apple licensed a broad range of Qualcomm's IP. Given the IP that Apple obtained from purchase of "the majority" of Intel's modem business , and what Apple already owns or licenses from other third parties, I would be surprised in Apple doesn't have its own range of modem designs in a few years.
Are you sure of that? We know that because of the court order, which may have been appealed, Qualcomm was ordered to license their patents out in an equitable manner, according to FRAND licensing terms. But whether Apple has licensed any is something I hadn’t heard.
"As for Apple, its billions have bought the company a six-year global patent licensing agreement with Qualcomm, with an option to extend it for another two years after that, "
"San Diego and Cupertino, California — Qualcomm and Apple today announced an agreement to dismiss all litigation between the two companies worldwide. The settlement includes a payment from Apple to Qualcomm. The companies also have reached a six-year license agreement, effective as of April 1, 2019, including a two-year option to extend, and a multiyear chipset supply agreement."
Apple's already a year further into modem development since that agreement, with 5 to 7 years of Qualcomm licensing still available. What are the odds that Apple bests Qualcomm with an SOC and integrated modem within that timeframe, and is on a path to 6G leadership by the end of the decade?
I’ve been saying that apple may not get the current Qualcomm modem. Qualcomm is bending over backwards to make Apple happy. The better the modems they get, particularly if they get them a half cycle before Android makers, could keep Apple with Qualcomm longer than otherwise.
On the other hand Apple has made it very clear they want complete control of the hardware. If Apple Silicon kicks Intel's ass as rumored then Apple might still try to make its own 5G modem, especially if they can get better performance than QC product. You are right though, Qualcomm will do whatever it takes to keep Apple's business.
Perhaps....
But Apple's history is that they would rather go with a high end reliable vendor than do it inhouse.
The trouble is that Intel has been flailing and failing and Qualcomm were greedy jerks thinking that THEY owned the iPhone. While Intel is spinning its wheels, Qualcomm appears to have mended their ways. Or, at least we are hoping that they have
As part of the deal deal made with Qualcomm, Apple licensed a broad range of Qualcomm's IP. Given the IP that Apple obtained from purchase of "the majority" of Intel's modem business , and what Apple already owns or licenses from other third parties, I would be surprised in Apple doesn't have its own range of modem designs in a few years.
Are you sure of that? We know that because of the court order, which may have been appealed, Qualcomm was ordered to license their patents out in an equitable manner, according to FRAND licensing terms. But whether Apple has licensed any is something I hadn’t heard.
"As for Apple, its billions have bought the company a six-year global patent licensing agreement with Qualcomm, with an option to extend it for another two years after that, "
"San Diego and Cupertino, California — Qualcomm and Apple today announced an agreement to dismiss all litigation between the two companies worldwide. The settlement includes a payment from Apple to Qualcomm. The companies also have reached a six-year license agreement, effective as of April 1, 2019, including a two-year option to extend, and a multiyear chipset supply agreement."
Apple's already a year further into modem development since that agreement, with 5 to 7 years of Qualcomm licensing still available. What are the odds that Apple bests Qualcomm with an SOC and integrated modem within that timeframe, and is on a path to 6G leadership by the end of the decade?
I’m not so sure that says what you think it does. Qualcomm requires every buyer of its modems and chips to enter licensing agreements. This is one of the things the lawsuit was about. Apple, and others, were forced to license patents just to use the chips. They were forced to license large patent portfolios, much of which had no relation to the products they were buying, at outrageous prices.
this could simply be Apple again licensing patents relating to the modems they will be buying for the next 6 years, and possibly more, if their own efforts don’t pan out by then.
I’ve been saying that apple may not get the current Qualcomm modem. Qualcomm is bending over backwards to make Apple happy. The better the modems they get, particularly if they get them a half cycle before Android makers, could keep Apple with Qualcomm longer than otherwise.
On the other hand Apple has made it very clear they want complete control of the hardware. If Apple Silicon kicks Intel's ass as rumored then Apple might still try to make its own 5G modem, especially if they can get better performance than QC product. You are right though, Qualcomm will do whatever it takes to keep Apple's business.
Perhaps....
But Apple's history is that they would rather go with a high end reliable vendor than do it inhouse.
The trouble is that Intel has been flailing and failing and Qualcomm were greedy jerks thinking that THEY owned the iPhone. While Intel is spinning its wheels, Qualcomm appears to have mended their ways. Or, at least we are hoping that they have
As part of the deal deal made with Qualcomm, Apple licensed a broad range of Qualcomm's IP. Given the IP that Apple obtained from purchase of "the majority" of Intel's modem business , and what Apple already owns or licenses from other third parties, I would be surprised in Apple doesn't have its own range of modem designs in a few years.
Are you sure of that? We know that because of the court order, which may have been appealed, Qualcomm was ordered to license their patents out in an equitable manner, according to FRAND licensing terms. But whether Apple has licensed any is something I hadn’t heard.
"As for Apple, its billions have bought the company a six-year global patent licensing agreement with Qualcomm, with an option to extend it for another two years after that, "
"San Diego and Cupertino, California — Qualcomm and Apple today announced an agreement to dismiss all litigation between the two companies worldwide. The settlement includes a payment from Apple to Qualcomm. The companies also have reached a six-year license agreement, effective as of April 1, 2019, including a two-year option to extend, and a multiyear chipset supply agreement."
Apple's already a year further into modem development since that agreement, with 5 to 7 years of Qualcomm licensing still available. What are the odds that Apple bests Qualcomm with an SOC and integrated modem within that timeframe, and is on a path to 6G leadership by the end of the decade?
I’m not so sure that says what you think it does. Qualcomm requires every buyer of its modems and chips to enter licensing agreements. This is one of the things the lawsuit was about. Apple, and others, were forced to license patents just to use the chips. They were forced to license large patent portfolios, much of which had no relation to the products they were buying, at outrageous prices.
this could simply be Apple again licensing patents relating to the modems they will be buying for the next 6 years, and possibly more, if their own efforts don’t pan out by then.
Your explanation doesn't make sense.
Do you not think that Apple has the rights to use that Qualcomm IP to design their own modem? Surely Apple would have negotiated those terms on a FRAND basis, otherwise, I expect that the FTC would have stepped in against Qualcomm.
"Representing Qualcomm, Tom Goldstein responded no. He conceded Qualcomm was a monopoly, but argued that it broke no laws because its chips were better than rivals.
“It is the prospect that a monopolist will make a lot of money that encourages it to do so much innovation. That is what capitalism is intended to encourage,” he said.
A decision in the appeal could take anywhere from several months to more than a year.
I think that Apple can outcompete Qualcomm, given access to Qualcomm's IP.
I’ve been saying that apple may not get the current Qualcomm modem. Qualcomm is bending over backwards to make Apple happy. The better the modems they get, particularly if they get them a half cycle before Android makers, could keep Apple with Qualcomm longer than otherwise.
On the other hand Apple has made it very clear they want complete control of the hardware. If Apple Silicon kicks Intel's ass as rumored then Apple might still try to make its own 5G modem, especially if they can get better performance than QC product. You are right though, Qualcomm will do whatever it takes to keep Apple's business.
Perhaps....
But Apple's history is that they would rather go with a high end reliable vendor than do it inhouse.
The trouble is that Intel has been flailing and failing and Qualcomm were greedy jerks thinking that THEY owned the iPhone. While Intel is spinning its wheels, Qualcomm appears to have mended their ways. Or, at least we are hoping that they have
As part of the deal deal made with Qualcomm, Apple licensed a broad range of Qualcomm's IP. Given the IP that Apple obtained from purchase of "the majority" of Intel's modem business , and what Apple already owns or licenses from other third parties, I would be surprised in Apple doesn't have its own range of modem designs in a few years.
Are you sure of that? We know that because of the court order, which may have been appealed, Qualcomm was ordered to license their patents out in an equitable manner, according to FRAND licensing terms. But whether Apple has licensed any is something I hadn’t heard.
"As for Apple, its billions have bought the company a six-year global patent licensing agreement with Qualcomm, with an option to extend it for another two years after that, "
"San Diego and Cupertino, California — Qualcomm and Apple today announced an agreement to dismiss all litigation between the two companies worldwide. The settlement includes a payment from Apple to Qualcomm. The companies also have reached a six-year license agreement, effective as of April 1, 2019, including a two-year option to extend, and a multiyear chipset supply agreement."
Apple's already a year further into modem development since that agreement, with 5 to 7 years of Qualcomm licensing still available. What are the odds that Apple bests Qualcomm with an SOC and integrated modem within that timeframe, and is on a path to 6G leadership by the end of the decade?
I’m not so sure that says what you think it does. Qualcomm requires every buyer of its modems and chips to enter licensing agreements. This is one of the things the lawsuit was about. Apple, and others, were forced to license patents just to use the chips. They were forced to license large patent portfolios, much of which had no relation to the products they were buying, at outrageous prices.
this could simply be Apple again licensing patents relating to the modems they will be buying for the next 6 years, and possibly more, if their own efforts don’t pan out by then.
Your explanation doesn't make sense.
Do you not think that Apple has the rights to use that Qualcomm IP to design their own modem? Surely Apple would have negotiated those terms on a FRAND basis, otherwise, I expect that the FTC would have stepped in against Qualcomm.
"Representing Qualcomm, Tom Goldstein responded no. He conceded Qualcomm was a monopoly, but argued that it broke no laws because its chips were better than rivals.
“It is the prospect that a monopolist will make a lot of money that encourages it to do so much innovation. That is what capitalism is intended to encourage,” he said.
A decision in the appeal could take anywhere from several months to more than a year.
I think that Apple can outcompete Qualcomm, given access to Qualcomm's IP.
I’m not saying for certain it’s not. But you don’t know if what you’re saying is correct. You’re just assuming it is. We don’t know. Apple still has to license patents from Qualcomm to buy their chips. That’s all we do know. Anything else at this juncture is speculation.
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Periscope lenses have up to 4x optical zoom, even if some claims like "10x with 100x hybrid" are bull. Still double a 2x lens.
when I was an electronics manufacturer, we were small, and certainly couldn’t afford to design something that had to be made in vast numbers to be cost effective. Apple has the advantage, more and more, of that need for vast manufacturing scales, and can therefore afford to do whatever they have to. Whether they want to is something else.
Are you sure of that? We know that because of the court order, which may have been appealed, Qualcomm was ordered to license their patents out in an equitable manner, according to FRAND licensing terms. But whether Apple has licensed any is something I hadn’t heard.
"As for Apple, its billions have bought the company a six-year global patent licensing agreement with Qualcomm, with an option to extend it for another two years after that, "
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/04/qualcomm-and-apple-agree-to-drop-all-litigation/
"San Diego and Cupertino, California — Qualcomm and Apple today announced an agreement to dismiss all litigation between the two companies worldwide. The settlement includes a payment from Apple to Qualcomm. The companies also have reached a six-year license agreement, effective as of April 1, 2019, including a two-year option to extend, and a multiyear chipset supply agreement."
Apple's already a year further into modem development since that agreement, with 5 to 7 years of Qualcomm licensing still available. What are the odds that Apple bests Qualcomm with an SOC and integrated modem within that timeframe, and is on a path to 6G leadership by the end of the decade?
this could simply be Apple again licensing patents relating to the modems they will be buying for the next 6 years, and possibly more, if their own efforts don’t pan out by then.
Do you not think that Apple has the rights to use that Qualcomm IP to design their own modem? Surely Apple would have negotiated those terms on a FRAND basis, otherwise, I expect that the FTC would have stepped in against Qualcomm.
That initial FTC victory has been appealed;
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-qualcomm-ftc-argument/ftc-antitrust-victory-on-qualcomm-questioned-by-appeals-court-idUSKBN2071Q6
"Representing Qualcomm, Tom Goldstein responded no. He conceded Qualcomm was a monopoly, but argued that it broke no laws because its chips were better than rivals.
“It is the prospect that a monopolist will make a lot of money that encourages it to do so much innovation. That is what capitalism is intended to encourage,” he said.
A decision in the appeal could take anywhere from several months to more than a year.
I think that Apple can outcompete Qualcomm, given access to Qualcomm's IP.