SoftBank considering sale or IPO of chip design company Arm Holdings

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  • Reply 21 of 27
    Beatsbeats Posts: 3,073member
    ajmas said:
    Apple buying ARM would likely be toxic. The notion being that Apple fully controlling ARM would likely drive many ARM customers away. 

    I am not sure Apple buying ARM would be beneficial to anyone. ARM does a good job of doing research and everyone else creates the implementation that suits their needs. 

    On the other hand if the shareholders were a healthy mix of companies that use ARM, then that may be of more interest?

    I would love it. Didn't Apple own ARM in the past anyway?
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  • Reply 22 of 27
    jdb8167jdb8167 Posts: 627member
    Beats said:
    ajmas said:
    Apple buying ARM would likely be toxic. The notion being that Apple fully controlling ARM would likely drive many ARM customers away. 

    I am not sure Apple buying ARM would be beneficial to anyone. ARM does a good job of doing research and everyone else creates the implementation that suits their needs. 

    On the other hand if the shareholders were a healthy mix of companies that use ARM, then that may be of more interest?

    I would love it. Didn't Apple own ARM in the past anyway?
    They owned a portion of the company since they co-founded it in the early 90’s. More info here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arm_Holdings#History
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 23 of 27
    Rayz2016rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Beats said:
    ajmas said:
    Apple buying ARM would likely be toxic. The notion being that Apple fully controlling ARM would likely drive many ARM customers away. 

    I am not sure Apple buying ARM would be beneficial to anyone. ARM does a good job of doing research and everyone else creates the implementation that suits their needs. 

    On the other hand if the shareholders were a healthy mix of companies that use ARM, then that may be of more interest?

    I would love it. Didn't Apple own ARM in the past anyway?
    If Apple bought ARM then they would shut down licensing. This would cause chaos throughout the industry and companies like Docker would withdraw support. It would be a lose-lose for everyone. And since they don’t care about the reference designs anyway, they have no need to buy ARM. 

    Leaving ARM free will allow it to continue to flourish which will benefit Apple. 

    But if a consortium was put together, then Apple should be a part of that I suppose. 
    edited July 2020
    muthuk_vanalingamwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 24 of 27
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    ajmas said:
    Apple buying ARM would likely be toxic. The notion being that Apple fully controlling ARM would likely drive many ARM customers away. 

    I am not sure Apple buying ARM would be beneficial to anyone. ARM does a good job of doing research and everyone else creates the implementation that suits their needs. 

    On the other hand if the shareholders were a healthy mix of companies that use ARM, then that may be of more interest?
    I agree.  Apple are not in the game of licensing technology, so the only particular advantage to Apple in buying ARM would be to actively disadvantage their competitors by disrupting the licensing.  That's not cricket.
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  • Reply 25 of 27
    neilmneilm Posts: 1,004member
    sflocal said:
    I read something not that long ago about ARM being primarily Chinese-owned after some behind-the-scene dealings.  Is that not the case?
    Not the case. SoftBank owns ARM, and it is a Japanese company (as the article states).
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 26 of 27
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    neilm said:
    sflocal said:
    I read something not that long ago about ARM being primarily Chinese-owned after some behind-the-scene dealings.  Is that not the case?
    Not the case. SoftBank owns ARM, and it is a Japanese company (as the article states).
    I've heard something similar about how parts of what was Softbank is now owned by Chinese interests, due to some corporate restructuring and selling off of chunks of it.  Not sure if it affects the part that owns ARM.
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 27 of 27
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    crowley said:
    neilm said:
    sflocal said:
    I read something not that long ago about ARM being primarily Chinese-owned after some behind-the-scene dealings.  Is that not the case?
    Not the case. SoftBank owns ARM, and it is a Japanese company (as the article states).
    I've heard something similar about how parts of what was Softbank is now owned by Chinese interests, due to some corporate restructuring and selling off of chunks of it.  Not sure if it affects the part that owns ARM.
    "In 2016, SoftBank bought Arm – which then operated under a different name – for US$32 billion, its second-largest acquisition after Sprint Corp, initially gaining full control over the Chinese subsidiary. SoftBank ceded a majority stake in 2018 and now owns 49 per cent through Arm. Hopu, the consortium that bought 51 per cent of Arm China, includes China Investment Corp, the Silk Road Fund and Singaporean state investment firm Temasek Holdings."

    There's a major blowup underway between Softbank and the Chinese Arm ownership concerning the actions of their CEO Allen Wu who Softbank has now taken the extreme measure of firing.  That's perhaps the real reason this story about a possible sale hits the newswire. 
    edited July 2020
    ronncornchip
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