Yea, a good friend of mine is having MAAAAJOOR problems with iOS 14 and she has a new iPhone 11. She advised me to hold off on updating. I was already going to. I usually upgrade on day 1, but something told me to hold off on this one. My auto update setting is always off anyway. I like to have control of when to upgrade my devices.
Care to share any details? Or are you just going to leave people thinking that iOS 14 has MAAAAAJOOR problems?
No problem on my XR. Works like a charm. The install did take a bit longer than installing iOS 13, and the Watch update too forrrrrrrever, but so far both devices are working perfectly.
Yea, a good friend of mine is having MAAAAJOOR problems with iOS 14 and she has a new iPhone 11. She advised me to hold off on updating. I was already going to. I usually upgrade on day 1, but something told me to hold off on this one. My auto update setting is always off anyway. I like to have control of when to upgrade my devices.
Care to share any details? Or are you just going to leave people thinking that iOS 14 has MAAAAAJOOR problems?
No problem on my XR. Works like a charm. The install did take a bit longer than installing iOS 13, and the Watch update too forrrrrrrever, but so far both devices are working perfectly.
I think it's an issue with the keyboard, where the AAAAA and OO keys get stuck. And Caps Lock too.
No issues on iOS and iPadOS. Coincidentally did multiple restarts of my iPhone for testing our SIP app and it’s all good.
Overall, if anything, iOS 14 feels a tad snappier.
No issues on four devices.
And watchOS on a fifth device is way snappier — minimizing apps and app switching is notably faster on my S4. Not often a new OS makes an older device seem faster!
Wow. Now, what good are beta testers if major bugs like this are not detected?
Since beta testing is such a risk, I suspect few average people (who are not developers) and rely on their devices to run reliably would not be willing to beta test.
You should be right, but you’re not. Far too many people download beta versions to try and get new features early and then are burned by bugs.
As for @larryjw ’s statement, every major release has bugs, regardless of testing. That’s how it goes with software.
They couldn’t find this basic and obvious bug themselves before release?
Or the other bugs people are talking about? Or all the bugs that are still in there from iOS 13, 12, 11, 10,.. iOS 7, basically...??
Yet again, Apple is doing the same thing it always does: pushing out a broken and incomplete “new” version of software. This is Apple telling us all what they think of their products and what they think of us. Nothing matters but that sweet sweet Wall Street image.
When are people going to stop putting up with this? When are “fans” & tech geeks going to stop volunteering their services as unpaid beta testers, unpaid Q/A, unpaid platform/company campaigner... let’s call it what it is: unpaid evangelist for the cult of tech, where special pleading is the de facto standard type of “logic” utilized to defend the software industry from reasonable criticism.
To get to this news item, I had to scroll past the news of an iOS 14.2 beta...
This is iOS 13 all over again, and everyone is just going to keep accepting this as “normal” because they’ve been conditioned to do so.
Go ahead, flame and mock. I expect nothing better from tech communities.
Wow. Now, what good are beta testers if major bugs like this are not detected?
The apps you could set as default weren't available until after the final release, so beta testers were not able to test that function.
Nice. Instead of using this as a clear example of Apple failing at BASIC QA processes, you use it to defend Apple against reasonable criticism.
This, and the “every new release has bugs, that’s just how it goes” attitude is exactly what I’m talking about.
Exit the cult. This industry is broken and has been broken for decades. Stop excusing it by pleading special circumstance.
Doesn't sound like a defense to me, more a shifting of blame from beta testers not doing their job to Apple not doing theirs. Seems valid to me.
Yes, bugs slipping through is not uncommon. I've been in the business starting in the 60's; I know about bugs having generated them myself over the years. The best single source for designing systems that work is still Edsgar Dijkstra's Structured Programming "article" and in the book Structured Programming, free download at https://dl.acm.org/doi/book/10.5555/1243380#CIT.
Apple does have the virtually impossible task of testing all configurations themselves and all possible Use Cases. That is the role of beta testers.
The industry is not broken. A basic theorem in computing science is total program correctness is not provable (decidable). But, there are just some things beta testers should be able to do.
Also, a PSA for those who use the Bedtime feature. It's been moved from the Clock app to the Health app. And the upgrade wipes out your previously setup bedtime schedule. You have to add a new one. I'm really glad I checked before going to bed last night, otherwise I would've missed several meetings.
Yeah, this was something talked about and discussed when iOS 14 Public Beta was made available. See, that's the thing about new releases. Unless you're a beta tester or have been reading everything going on with the new features and changes, you really should wait and not update your devices on day one. I'm the IT guy for my family and friends and I sent out an email blast yesterday telling them not to update their devices unless they checked with me first. Less headaches for me!
I’m the IT guy for my family too. That’s why I’m always the first to upgrade. Regardless, the issue I’m having isn’t a defect. It’s been changed by design. There should be some warning to those who use bedtime.
That's what I was getting at. Bringing Bedtime over from the Clock app to Health app was "changed by design" and you wouldn't know unless you were testing the beta and discovered the change, or read about it in advance. I'm still discovering a few changes I don't recall seeing in public beta. That being said, the Sleep/Wake Up Alarm is still in the Clock app listed at the very top. If you are setting it up for the first time or changing the time, a notification screen tells you "Sleep is Now in Health" with a button at the bottom "Set Up in Health" which takes you directly to Health app.
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Care to share any details? Or are you just going to leave people thinking that iOS 14 has MAAAAAJOOR problems?
No problem on my XR. Works like a charm. The install did take a bit longer than installing iOS 13, and the Watch update too forrrrrrrever, but so far both devices are working perfectly.
And watchOS on a fifth device is way snappier — minimizing apps and app switching is notably faster on my S4. Not often a new OS makes an older device seem faster!
Or the other bugs people are talking about? Or all the bugs that are still in there from iOS 13, 12, 11, 10,.. iOS 7, basically...??
Yet again, Apple is doing the same thing it always does: pushing out a broken and incomplete “new” version of software. This is Apple telling us all what they think of their products and what they think of us. Nothing matters but that sweet sweet Wall Street image.
When are people going to stop putting up with this? When are “fans” & tech geeks going to stop volunteering their services as unpaid beta testers, unpaid Q/A, unpaid platform/company campaigner... let’s call it what it is: unpaid evangelist for the cult of tech, where special pleading is the de facto standard type of “logic” utilized to defend the software industry from reasonable criticism.
To get to this news item, I had to scroll past the news of an iOS 14.2 beta...
This is iOS 13 all over again, and everyone is just going to keep accepting this as “normal” because they’ve been conditioned to do so.
Go ahead, flame and mock. I expect nothing better from tech communities.
This, and the “every new release has bugs, that’s just how it goes” attitude is exactly what I’m talking about.
Exit the cult. This industry is broken and has been broken for decades. Stop excusing it by pleading special circumstance.
Apple does have the virtually impossible task of testing all configurations themselves and all possible Use Cases. That is the role of beta testers.