FYI.. I managed a reseller for 3 years. here is some insight as to how thing actually work in 'the channel'
Apple does not own this inventory, MacMall does. Apple may offer a limited amount of price protection against the Apple Store, but that is about all. Once MacMall has ordered and received the product it is no longer a concern of Apples.
It is also possible, even highly likely if not probably, that Apple Distribution offered these to MacMall at a significant discount to clear their own channels. Apple wins, they clear inventory and save on the overhead of warehousing; MacMall wins as they are able to make close to 25 points on each unit (which is their original incentive to do this) until Apple lowers the price. Likewise they are even then able to offer very attractive prices, say still making 12-14 points, on units after the new ones are released. $1099 for PMac 800 would be a steal, yes? A Dually Gzh for 1999.00.... yep, thats a steal.
The chase: A daily review of MacMalls inventory is absolutely nothing to go on.
I second the motion that ThinkSecret.com has been remarkably accurate so far, and they made it pretty clear they were putting more than a few of thier reputation points, or quat-ma-thingies, on their prediction of Aug 13th - Hence the Headline "New PowerMacs Aug 13th"
At the financial analyst meeting several Apple execs said they weren't expecting to see an improvment in PowerMac sales until Jaguar was shipping. The reason being that some of their large institutional buyers would wait until machines were shipping with OS X 10.2 already loaded on them rather than have to update the software on a large order of new units only weeks after getting them.
In addition, the head of the retail division ( Apple Stores ) said they were considering doing some " midnight madness" type of introduction for Jaguar on Aug. 24th.
I don't see how much impact a mere software release could have on the media to justify this kind of marketing, however, imagine the hype that would be generated if all of the Apple Stores opened at midnight on the 24th to promote Jaguar and, by the way, here are the new PowerMacs to run it on, available immediately.
Another thing to take into account...is back to school time...true this is more an iMac/eMac oriented buying time...but traditionally the end of summer is a time that people buy a new computer...I know I am planning to get a tower come the end of summer....I think we'll see new powermacs in august.
Phil Schiller is keynote speaker at Seybold. This means no new products announced AT Seybold, but certainly something before it. If SJ was keynoting Seybold, I'd think new products being introduced AT Seybold.
[quote]Phil Schiller is keynote speaker at Seybold. This means no new products announced AT Seybold, but certainly something before it. If SJ was keynoting Seybold, I'd think new products being introduced AT Seybold. <hr></blockquote>
I think this is probably because SJ is Keynoting the Paris Expo, which begins the same day. Could be a big day!!
Of topic question: Is there a glossary or insider hint book that I could use to translate some of the acronymns you guys throw down. I mean I get IMHO and SJ and WTF; but come on, ROTFLMAO!!?? What the hell does that shit mean.
Don't know if it makes any difference (which it probably doesn't) but AT&T is unveiling their GSM/GPRS Network on August 13th. I know it doesn't mean much, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Offtopic: Check out this site for you guide to internet jargon <a href="http://www.netlingo.com/inframes.cfm"; target="_blank">Internet Jargon guide</a>
<strong>Of topic question: Is there a glossary or insider hint book that I could use to translate some of the acronymns you guys throw down. I mean I get IMHO and SJ and WTF; but come on, ROTFLMAO!!?? What the hell does that shit mean.
Inventory of the powermacs is low NOW. Ingram has little to no powermacs Now i repeat, the top execs of apple do not suffer from a mental disability, which would be apparent if they held off release of new powermacs for an entire month when theyve already succesfully cleared inventory and the promotion is ending. Those of you thinking apple would for some reason hold off the new powermacs for a later date are wrong and ignorant in the ways of business. You'll learn. Someday.
I really can't help but feel that Apple is coming out with some really nice machines. If they were only 1.2GHz, they wouldn't try to clear the channel so thoroughly. They'd just sell the older models at the same time at reduced prices. If I remember correctly they even sold G3 B&Ws side by side with the G4s.
<strong>Inventory of the powermacs is low NOW. Ingram has little to no powermacs Now i repeat, the top execs of apple do not suffer from a mental disability, which would be apparent if they held off release of new powermacs for an entire month when theyve already succesfully cleared inventory and the promotion is ending. Those of you thinking apple would for some reason hold off the new powermacs for a later date are wrong and ignorant in the ways of business. You'll learn. Someday.</strong><hr></blockquote>
holding new product while waiting for old to be cleared out is not usual business practice. i doubt apple will do it unless they have compounding reasons to do so. in addition, when will apple's current quarter end? at the end of august or sept? by the way, school is starting around the end of august. i really think apple will make some marketing/sale pitches around that time.
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800mhz-2091 units in stock
933mhz-378 units in stock
Dual 1ghz-2140 units in stock
<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
<strong>I just checked out MacMall's Powermac inventory:
800mhz-2091 units in stock
933mhz-378 units in stock
Dual 1ghz-2140 units in stock
<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
FYI.. I managed a reseller for 3 years. here is some insight as to how thing actually work in 'the channel'
Apple does not own this inventory, MacMall does. Apple may offer a limited amount of price protection against the Apple Store, but that is about all. Once MacMall has ordered and received the product it is no longer a concern of Apples.
It is also possible, even highly likely if not probably, that Apple Distribution offered these to MacMall at a significant discount to clear their own channels. Apple wins, they clear inventory and save on the overhead of warehousing; MacMall wins as they are able to make close to 25 points on each unit (which is their original incentive to do this) until Apple lowers the price. Likewise they are even then able to offer very attractive prices, say still making 12-14 points, on units after the new ones are released. $1099 for PMac 800 would be a steal, yes? A Dually Gzh for 1999.00.... yep, thats a steal.
The chase: A daily review of MacMalls inventory is absolutely nothing to go on.
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Quatloos.
100 quatloos that the new systems ship in 2 weeks.</strong><hr></blockquote>
And I'll bet 250 quatloos that the Earthman can defeat the Klingon!
<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
I second the motion that ThinkSecret.com has been remarkably accurate so far, and they made it pretty clear they were putting more than a few of thier reputation points, or quat-ma-thingies, on their prediction of Aug 13th - Hence the Headline "New PowerMacs Aug 13th"
At the financial analyst meeting several Apple execs said they weren't expecting to see an improvment in PowerMac sales until Jaguar was shipping. The reason being that some of their large institutional buyers would wait until machines were shipping with OS X 10.2 already loaded on them rather than have to update the software on a large order of new units only weeks after getting them.
In addition, the head of the retail division ( Apple Stores ) said they were considering doing some " midnight madness" type of introduction for Jaguar on Aug. 24th.
I don't see how much impact a mere software release could have on the media to justify this kind of marketing, however, imagine the hype that would be generated if all of the Apple Stores opened at midnight on the 24th to promote Jaguar and, by the way, here are the new PowerMacs to run it on, available immediately.
<strong>I have faith in thinksecret given their excellent track record and no BS </strong><hr></blockquote>
ROTFLMAO
I think this is probably because SJ is Keynoting the Paris Expo, which begins the same day. Could be a big day!!
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_aarons
<strong>... but come on, ROTFLMAO!!?? What the hell does that shit mean.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Off topic: Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off
J :cool:
<strong>Of topic question: Is there a glossary or insider hint book that I could use to translate some of the acronymns you guys throw down. I mean I get IMHO and SJ and WTF; but come on, ROTFLMAO!!?? What the hell does that shit mean.
[ 08-01-2002: Message edited by: FlashGordon ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
ROTFLMAO
Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off
<a href="http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?bw.080102/222130071&ticker=KMED"; target="_blank">Link here.</a>
<strong>Inventory of the powermacs is low NOW. Ingram has little to no powermacs Now i repeat, the top execs of apple do not suffer from a mental disability, which would be apparent if they held off release of new powermacs for an entire month when theyve already succesfully cleared inventory and the promotion is ending. Those of you thinking apple would for some reason hold off the new powermacs for a later date are wrong and ignorant in the ways of business. You'll learn. Someday.</strong><hr></blockquote>
holding new product while waiting for old to be cleared out is not usual business practice. i doubt apple will do it unless they have compounding reasons to do so. in addition, when will apple's current quarter end? at the end of august or sept? by the way, school is starting around the end of august. i really think apple will make some marketing/sale pitches around that time.
For example: if someone were to ask me how I felt about the upcoming Power Mac updates, I would say:
"Hey ... BOBHICA, pal. You'll be lucky if you're using a 1.5GHz PPC chip next August! Apple's hardware problems are FUBB...."
:eek:
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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