Apple Mac perceived as easier to use, more secure than Windows among IT departments

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Enterprise users and IT departments view Apple macOS devices as much more secure than their non-Mac counterparts, a new survey claims.

Credit: Andrew O'Hara, AppleInsider
Credit: Andrew O'Hara, AppleInsider


Apple mobile device management (MDM) company Jamf carried out the study along with market research firm Vanson Bourne for National Cybersecurity Awareness Month. The two organizations surveyed 1,500 information security and IT professionals on device usage, challenges, and other topics at their workplaces.

According to the survey, there appears to be a trend toward Mac devices -- both at firms currently using Macs and those that predominantly use non-Mac computers. Among respondents, 74% of predominantly Mac users said they will increase the count of Apple computers at their organizations. Among predominantly non-Mac users, that percentage was 65%.

More than three quarters of organizations surveyed, 77%, said they viewed the Mac as the most secure device out of the box. That result was from both Mac and non-Mac companies, and 79% of Mac-using firms said the perceived security of macOS influenced their purchasing decision. Even 57% of predominantly non-Mac organizations said that the Mac's security reputation affected purchasing decisions.

And even once the Mac devices are bought and set up, respondents said that user satisfaction with Apple devices tended to be higher.

With all baked-in security tools active, 71% of both non-Mac and Mac organizations said they had better user satisfaction with the Mac. Additionally, 84% said they'd choose Mac if every individual at their company had to use the same device.

As Jamf points out, the switch to remote work during the coronavirus global health crisis has placed a greater emphasis on device security as more users work on home networks and their own hardware.

Nearly all of the organizations surveyed, 96% of them, said that they will prioritize spending on security software in the future. On the other hand, despite lingering security concerns, Mac-using organizations tend to roll out security patches 30% faster than non-Mac groups. There is still a four-day average from release to rollout for Mac-based security fixes.

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  • Reply 1 of 20
    Well DUUUUHHH!!! You don’t say! I’ve been trying to tell every company I’ve worked for over the last 20 years this same thing but NOOOOOO.....”Windows, Windows, Windows” Even after I don’t even know how many issues. One company even distributed Android tablets to employees!! Ugh! EVERYONE had some kind of issue converting over. They HATED them. And I just sat back and said, “I told you so.” Why do most business people shut down as soon as they hear the word “Macintosh?” 
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  • Reply 2 of 20
    mknelsonmknelson Posts: 1,162member
    Quite often it's IT departments whose staff really only know Windows - they don't want to lose their jobs.


    The Walmart/IBM reports of per-unit IT cost savings for Macs reinforce that belief.
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  • Reply 3 of 20
    True. But do they have no desire to learn something new? A new platform? Not even to give anything other than Windows a chance. So closed minded. 
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  • Reply 4 of 20
    danvmdanvm Posts: 1,483member
    Quite often it's IT departments whose staff really only know Windows - they don't want to lose their jobs.


    The Walmart/IBM reports of per-unit IT cost savings for Macs reinforce that belief.
    True. But do they have no desire to learn something new? A new platform? Not even to give anything other than Windows a chance. So closed minded. 
    I don't think that all, or event most, IT guys are as you describe.  What it's clear is that MS dominate the enterprise, and their ecosystem and management tools are miles ahead of what Apple, or any other company offers.  It's clear that macOS have some benefits for some customers as IBM (I haven't seen about Walmart).  But not every company have IBM needs, and maybe that's the reason you don't see macOS, macOS Server, FileMaker or the Apple suites of apps in most business / enterprises.  

    Jamf and MS are doing their best with their Apple management tools, specially when you consider that Apple haven't done anything with theirs.  But Windows still better integrating in the MS ecosystem that most business / enterprises use.  I think Apple is the reason macOS is behind in business and enterprises, and not necessarily the IT guys.  
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  • Reply 5 of 20
    cornchipcornchip Posts: 1,954member
    There is really only one way I’d ever go back to PC and that is if I got a Killer job where I had to use SolidWorks. I really wish Dassault Systems would get off their asses and just build it for Mac. The only other software I know of that basically mandates that you run windoze is quick books, which I hear on Mac is far inferior to the windows version. How they get away with that I have no idea. But we are switching to netsuite where I work, which I *think is web based? So shouldn’t matter? 

    I’m sure there are a handful of other apps, but by and large, there’s no real reason to remain on windows.
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  • Reply 6 of 20
    danvm said:
    Quite often it's IT departments whose staff really only know Windows - they don't want to lose their jobs.


    The Walmart/IBM reports of per-unit IT cost savings for Macs reinforce that belief.
    True. But do they have no desire to learn something new? A new platform? Not even to give anything other than Windows a chance. So closed minded. 
    I don't think that all, or event most, IT guys are as you describe.  What it's clear is that MS dominate the enterprise, and their ecosystem and management tools are miles ahead of what Apple, or any other company offers.  It's clear that macOS have some benefits for some customers as IBM (I haven't seen about Walmart).  But not every company have IBM needs, and maybe that's the reason you don't see macOS, macOS Server, FileMaker or the Apple suites of apps in most business / enterprises.  

    Jamf and MS are doing their best with their Apple management tools, specially when you consider that Apple haven't done anything with theirs.  But Windows still better integrating in the MS ecosystem that most business / enterprises use.  I think Apple is the reason macOS is behind in business and enterprises, and not necessarily the IT guys.  
    I agree with everything you said.  However, MS also has a huge incumbent advantage.  I work at a moderately sized organization (close to 1,000 staff).  The change-management exercise to migrate everyone from Windows to MacOS would be so disruptive, we'd never even consider it.  We in IT have a million things to worry about without taking on something like this.  Personally I've been a Mac guy since college and have never owned a Windows computer, but even I have a hard to seeing how my work life would be much better if I were using a MacBook Pro instead of my crappy company-assigned Dell laptop. As you said, Apple hasn't made is a priority to compete aggressively in this space, and it shows.  Our CIO, our president, and most IT staff all have Macs at home, but the "should the company switch from Windows" question is never raised. 
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  • Reply 7 of 20
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    Unfortunately, the number of bugs (annoyances, or fairly troublesome issues) are starting to rise up to Microsoft levels. I left that platform for the reasons indicated in the article, and also generally just hating Windows’ design ideologies. The fact that Apple are getting just as bad as Microsoft in lack of software quality control really pisses me off.

    As for why IT departments don’t switch, there are legit issues (there’s no MS Access for Mac OS, and the management tools mentioned by others above), but there’s also the perpetuation of the belief that Macs are inferior.

    Which is actually not just a myth, when you look at power-user desktop machines *at the mid price point*: Apple doesn’t have them. With Apple, it’s either a machine that has thermal constraints, or a machine with a massive cost.

    Apple shut out a lot of smaller “pro” setups/labs/studios with the vastly increased Mac Pro pricing. If you need heavy CPU/GPU work, and cannot afford a $10K machine (other people have done the analysis work here: the entry model is not competitive with PCs with the same specs), then your only option is a PC of some type.

    If you *don’t* need sustained, high heat-generating performance, you buy an iMac or MacBook and things are fine, and maybe better than having a PC in that spot (until there’s a runaway daemon that eats 100% on every core...). There’s generally no reason why any Mac can’t replace an average PC in the workplace, except for that occasional missing software issue, as mentioned above. My companion would’ve ended up buying a MacBook Pro if there was a version of Access for Mac OS (no, running it under WINE or booting to a Windows installation defeats the point of buying a Mac for the OS, for reliability, ease of use, good OS design, comfort...).

    Any place that doesn’t need a power-user setup, and doesn’t need MS Access, can probably do fine with any Mac. Even without the much lauded management tools, I would rather work in an IT department responsible for Macs, rather than Windows machines (of any brand).

    I also know that Apple’s current software quality would still leave me apologizing to users more than I want to. I just think it would be more tolerable than the apologizing I’d have to do for PC/Windows issues.

    And yes, we tech support people *should be* apologizing to end users when we can’t fix problems they experience which are caused by fundamentally bad design; we should NOT be trying to blame the user, or call them the problem, to defend an inherently lazy & abusive industry.
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  • Reply 8 of 20
    auxioauxio Posts: 2,783member
    danvm said:
    Quite often it's IT departments whose staff really only know Windows - they don't want to lose their jobs.


    The Walmart/IBM reports of per-unit IT cost savings for Macs reinforce that belief.
    True. But do they have no desire to learn something new? A new platform? Not even to give anything other than Windows a chance. So closed minded. 
    I don't think that all, or event most, IT guys are as you describe.  What it's clear is that MS dominate the enterprise, and their ecosystem and management tools are miles ahead of what Apple, or any other company offers.  It's clear that macOS have some benefits for some customers as IBM (I haven't seen about Walmart).  But not every company have IBM needs, and maybe that's the reason you don't see macOS, macOS Server, FileMaker or the Apple suites of apps in most business / enterprises.  

    Jamf and MS are doing their best with their Apple management tools, specially when you consider that Apple haven't done anything with theirs.  But Windows still better integrating in the MS ecosystem that most business / enterprises use.  I think Apple is the reason macOS is behind in business and enterprises, and not necessarily the IT guys.  
    The change-management exercise to migrate everyone from Windows to MacOS would be so disruptive, we'd never even consider it.  We in IT have a million things to worry about without taking on something like this.
    This.  Microsoft has become entrenched in most medium-to-large sized companies and there's no compelling reason to invest in a huge effort to switch.  A lot of it also has to do with better support for back-end financial and inventory systems, as danvm mentioned.
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  • Reply 9 of 20
    Beatsbeats Posts: 3,073member
    In other news water is a liquid and Androids are knockoff iPhones/iPads.
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  • Reply 10 of 20
    Beatsbeats Posts: 3,073member
    Well DUUUUHHH!!! You don’t say! I’ve been trying to tell every company I’ve worked for over the last 20 years this same thing but NOOOOOO.....”Windows, Windows, Windows” Even after I don’t even know how many issues. One company even distributed Android tablets to employees!! Ugh! EVERYONE had some kind of issue converting over. They HATED them. And I just sat back and said, “I told you so.” Why do most business people shut down as soon as they hear the word “Macintosh?” 

    IT departments hate Apple products for the same reason mechanics hate electric cars.

    Also the only thing management sees is PRICE, not knowing their virus infected Windows machines will cost more in the future.


    True. But do they have no desire to learn something new? A new platform? Not even to give anything other than Windows a chance. So closed minded. 

    They'd lose their jobs.
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  • Reply 11 of 20
    nealc5nealc5 Posts: 45member
    cornchip said:
    There is really only one way I’d ever go back to PC and that is if I got a Killer job where I had to use SolidWorks. I really wish Dassault Systems would get off their asses and just build it for Mac. The only other software I know of that basically mandates that you run windoze is quick books, which I hear on Mac is far inferior to the windows version. How they get away with that I have no idea. But we are switching to netsuite where I work, which I *think is web based? So shouldn’t matter? 

    I’m sure there are a handful of other apps, but by and large, there’s no real reason to remain on windows.
    I work for an industrial equipment manufacturer, and we use Solidworks and MathCAD, which are both "Windows only" (although MathCAD was originally a Mac-only product in tthe early 90's). We also use the Solidworks Product Data Management (PDM) which is also Windows only.  As long as these types of expensive and limited release engineering software are Windows-only, many companies can't switch.  Everything else we use (MS Office, AutoCAD) has Mac versions or is web-based, and we have many iPhones and iPads in the company.
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  • Reply 12 of 20
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,156member
    cornchip said:
    There is really only one way I’d ever go back to PC and that is if I got a Killer job where I had to use SolidWorks. I really wish Dassault Systems would get off their asses and just build it for Mac. The only other software I know of that basically mandates that you run windoze is quick books, which I hear on Mac is far inferior to the windows version. How they get away with that I have no idea. But we are switching to netsuite where I work, which I *think is web based? So shouldn’t matter? 

    I’m sure there are a handful of other apps, but by and large, there’s no real reason to remain on windows.
    What's wrong with just using Windows on a Mac?  I've been doing that for the past 10 years using VMware's Fusion.  There are some software development tools (IBM) and as you said, Quickbooks/Quicken and a couple of Windows-only programs that necessitate me running Windows.  It's a primary reason why I just bought a new 2020 iMac because of the uncertainty of running x86(64) programs on Apple Silicon.  

    Apple is not all wine and roses when it comes to the enterprise.  It's close, but not there.  Java on MacOS is a roll of the dice at times and is not consistent with WinTel.  Java is still a big thing for the enterprise.  Office365 for MacOS has some serious issues (particular in Excel) that makes it rather difficult for me to give Office365 a stamp-of-approval for MacOS.

    That being said, I use MacOS about 95% of the time, and Windows for the rest.  My Macs are still the best Windows machines out there.  

    And yes, Quickbooks for MacOS is garbage.  I've been using Quickbooks for 25+ years and tried the MacOS version and it was a royal pain.  The engineers really dropped the ball on it.  
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  • Reply 13 of 20
    entropysentropys Posts: 4,407member
    MS network and enterprise tools are light years ahead of anything Apple has to offer, and from the IT department’s perspective, adding another platform just makes life harder. There would not no be a wholesale change over to macs.

    That Said, I don’t get the outright antipathy to macs (not allowed) and the deliberate profile crippling of iphones And iPads compared with the Samsung alternative phone Work allows. 

    The iPhone of course is the Trojan horse. There would be outright rebellion if work stopped offering iPhones. So it will be interesting once MacOS becomes more iOS in the future.
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  • Reply 14 of 20
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,165member
    dysamoria said:
    Unfortunately, the number of bugs (annoyances, or fairly troublesome issues) are starting to rise up to Microsoft levels. I left that platform for the reasons indicated in the article, and also generally just hating Windows’ design ideologies. The fact that Apple are getting just as bad as Microsoft in lack of software quality control really pisses me off.
    No, it isn't. You just keep saying that. You seem to be too young to remember how plentiful MS hot fixes and service packs were, how necessary it was to reboot, and so very often re-install Windows. I've never had to do that on my Mac machines.... Windows has sucked for a long, long time, much worse than POSIX macOS. And fyi I'm an enterprise Windows software developer.
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  • Reply 15 of 20
    cgWerkscgwerks Posts: 2,952member
    Wow, the 'old guard' must be finally retiring or dying off.

    mknelson said:
    Quite often it's IT departments whose staff really only know Windows - they don't want to lose their jobs.
    In my experience, the thought process doesn't even run THAT deep.
    It seems more at a primal 'Macs bad' level. They are ignorant of anything beyond that slogan.

    There are actually reasons, and even some valid ones. But, the typical IT department person, or even manager, isn't aware of them (pro or con).

    cornchip said:
    There is really only one way I’d ever go back to PC and that is if I got a Killer job where I had to use SolidWorks. I really wish Dassault Systems would get off their asses and just build it for Mac. The only other software I know of that basically mandates that you run windoze is quick books, which I hear on Mac is far inferior to the windows version. How they get away with that I have no idea. But we are switching to netsuite where I work, which I *think is web based? So shouldn’t matter? 

    I’m sure there are a handful of other apps, but by and large, there’s no real reason to remain on windows.
    There are a bunch, but it seems they are thinking this stuff is all headed into the cloud. Here's an interesting interview with the CEO of Autodesk:
    https://architosh.com/2020/10/whats-beyond-revit-anagnost-on-autodesk-aec-futures/

    Since he seems to be well aware of the challenge this presents at the level of most firms, I'd guess they are pretty committed to this being the path forward. The good news, is that once this happens, it will all be platform agnostic. The bad news... I have my doubts about how well it will all work.

    I fear we'll just be trading off old archaic apps tied to a platform, for clunky cloud-based ones that are 'modern' but have just as many issues of a different kind.
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  • Reply 16 of 20
    Wasn’t this decided over 10 years ago?
    I guess some of the die hard Windows IT heads finally retired. 
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  • Reply 17 of 20
    It really depends on what, if any, kind of development work any given IT department is doing.  I'd think it would be intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that doing Windows development on a Mac is less than ideal.  On the other side, doing Mac/iOS development on anything but a Mac seems less than ideal as well.

    In my own case, I'd prefer a Windows machine, simply because the toolset for what I do is far more robust and polished than it is for MacOS. 
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  • Reply 18 of 20
    cloudguycloudguy Posts: 323member
    Two main issues.

    1. Cost. I know the arguments against that, but most companies refresh their PCs every 3 years. The Dell, HP and Lenovo laptops that enterprises prefer are well-built quality machines that have no problem lasting that long.
    2. Software. While all the "major" software runs on macOS, a lot of specialty and especially business software doesn't. The benefits of using a Mac are irrelevant if it doesn't run the software that you need to do your job. This is something that is only going to get worse when Mac switches to ARM. 

    The downsides of running Windows are basically mitigated. IT people are going to be MSCE types so they are well versed with dealing with the problems. Also, Microsoft provides great support. Further, it is faster to just restore the last good scheduled backup, wipe and reimage or just give them a new PC than actually try to "fix" the problem. In fact, while Windows has more problems, IT people are actually more knowledgeable on how to fix them than they would a macOS problem. Given the choice between having to deal with 10 problems a day that you know how to fix - or can easily find the fix in some forum or subreddit because 1000 other Windows admins have had the same - versus 1 problem a day that you don't, most would choose the latter. If you think otherwise, you haven't worked in support or don't know someone who has.

    Also, I don't know where the idea that these decisions are driven by IT people come from anyway. That is just sour grapes stuff. Those decisions are actually made by purchasing and acquisitions. The purchasing departments accept input from the IT people, of course, but at the end of the day they are still on the financial side as opposed to the technical. And I repeat: the policy is to refresh your devices once every 3 years regardless of their manufacturer. So you can replace 10,000 Macs every 3 years for $2000 a pop or do the same with Dell/HP/Lenovo for half that. Even if you have a house filled with Macs, iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs and Apple Watches, you are going to go for the latter. It is easier to justify to your boss, plus you are going to have sellers from the PC makers giving you the full court press constantly. 

    Finally, Microsoft heavily emphasizes the enterprise side of their business. It is their bread and butter. Ditto with the major enterprise PC manufacturers. So when you buy a Dell PC, you get the benefits of Dell AND Microsoft enterprise support. Apple meanwhile ... does Apple promote and emphasize enterprise the way that Microsoft and the PC makers do? Even if they did in times past back when Mac sales were necessary for their survival, surely you must know that Apple is primarily an iPhone (and iPad, AirPod, Apple Watch and services) company now. To put it another way, while enterprises certainly can and do use Apple products, Apple is primarily a consumer products and services company now. Microsoft now likely makes most of their money on products consumers and users never see like databases, servers and especially cloud. Apple by contrast makes very little of their money on that comparatively, and it could be said that nearly all their enterprise revenue comes from the same products and consumers can also buy.

    So it is much more complicated than the "lazy IT people" and conspiracies that get bandied about. There are legit business reasons why Windows PCs dominate the enterprise, not least that Windows PCs are only one of an extensive list of enterprise products that Microsoft offers. Even the hardware companies: Dell, Lenovo and HP all make servers and other enterprise hardware. Apple doesn't. With Microsoft and the big 3 PC makers, you could take away all their sales to consumers and they would still be very viable businesses by relying solely on their sales to enterprises. Apple? Not so much.
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  • Reply 19 of 20
    Pretty sure you mean "the former" and not "the latter" for the examples you give, Cloudguy.
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  • Reply 20 of 20
    cgWerkscgwerks Posts: 2,952member
    It really depends on what, if any, kind of development work any given IT department is doing.  I'd think it would be intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that doing Windows development on a Mac is less than ideal.  On the other side, doing Mac/iOS development on anything but a Mac seems less than ideal as well.

    In my own case, I'd prefer a Windows machine, simply because the toolset for what I do is far more robust and polished than it is for MacOS. 
    Certainly, there are use-cases that would probably be better on one platform or another. But, I think in terms of overall general 'business' and 'organization' use, you're better off with a Mac environment over most of the history of personal computing. Back when I use to do lots of network/IT and Mac consulting, I got to see various kinds of firms and businesses on both PC, Mac, and mixed environments.

    My Mac-based clients were generally way ahead of my Windows-based clients, both in terms of what they were doing with their computers, and the low-level of support required. Support, workflow, and software was generally better on the Mac side, and that led to more creative and productive use. Again, generalities, but that's what I experienced.

    cloudguy said:
    ... So it is much more complicated than the "lazy IT people" and conspiracies that get bandied about. ...
    I agree with much of what you said. The problem is that the things you listed are the kind of bean-counter justifications on which many businesses make their decisions. I don't deny that. The problem is those 'spreadsheets' don't easily account for things like creativity, innovation, software quality/workflow differences, productivity, etc. As mentioned above, my Mac-centric clients typically ran circles around their PC-using counterparts when it came down to what they were accomplishing with their computers. But, most companies don't know how to measure that kind of thing, nor do they even try.
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