Tim Cook reveals 'a few more exciting things' coming from Apple soon

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  • Reply 21 of 37
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 2,316member
    jdb8167 said:
    entropys said:
    • ASi macbook, there could be a Mac mini but I believe Cook’s long term goal has no interest in desktops, he really wants iPad to be the future in an appliance vision of computing. The ASi MacBook will just be another step in that direction. If this theory is right, the first model will not outclass an iPad Pro  in raw performance. This might mean a new iPad Pro as well then.
    This doesn’t make much sense. Why would Apple spend billions to create a new line of Mac specific SoCs if they have no interest in Macs? They are creating ASi Macs because Intel isn’t meeting their needs and hasn’t for half a decade. It really isn’t any more complicated than that.
    A14T doesn't suggest whole new line.
    entropys said:
    The whole point of ASi is to capitalise on the A series investment, simplify the supply chain, control the whole widget and maximise margins.  
    The ASi macs will be running a Mac OS that is more and more iOS in its underpinnings and function with each new version.  The macs will be more and more locked down....like an iPad.  At what point will an iMac for example really be just a great big iPad? Or a MacBook be an iPad with keyboard welded on? Why buy that when you can get an untinkerable iPad cheap and a magic keyboard for a few hundred extra $ and high margins for Apple?

    They have said they developed ASi as a modular system of parts they can use. So A, S, H, M and T current series all capitalise on the same investment.
    Each of those lines has parts they drive the development of and improve all the other lines.

    It would be most disappointing if the Mac isn't used to drive the development of some part of ASi family and just uses Aseries SOC's with more "t"ness.

    Would think we'd see a larger grahpics (given Apple already said as much) A new large ARM core and maybe some specialist new core like a more general purpose less tuned versions or the AI and Image Units in the Aseries. I don't know but something to give it's own name.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 22 of 37
    22july201322july2013 Posts: 3,571member
    mjtomlin said:
    entropys said:
    • ASi macbook, there could be a Mac mini but I believe Cook’s long term goal has no interest in desktops, he really wants iPad to be the future in an appliance vision of computing. The ASi MacBook will just be another step in that direction. If this theory is right, the first model will not outclass an iPad Pro  in raw performance. This might mean a new iPad Pro as well then.
    Interesting, so you think macOS is on the way out since you think "Cook... has no interest in desktops" and "MacBooks... will not outclass an iPad Pro in raw performance." That's a fascinating idea, if it turns out to be right. On the other hand, since desktops have no design limitations on fans/cooling or batteries/power, Apple could give them more power than any iOS device (or laptop.). My money is on this latter theory. The only thing that could stop me from buying an Apple Silicon computer is if your theory is right and Apple intends to cripple desktops.

    It’s ridiculous to think Apple is losing interest in the Mac... Craig and Joz both said so and Craig even want so far to call those that continue to think along those lines as “tools”. It’s obvious they are not interesting in phasing out the Mac. First of all, there’s no reason the Mac needs to be dropped in order for the iPad to continue on as an appliance computer. This is the single biggest reason why they have continued to resist morphing  them into one platform. Second, the Mac is a huge business for Apple and continues to grow. Do these people think Apple is going to just drop a product that generates tens of billions a year? I suspect after Intel is finally completely dropped, the prices of Macs will come down as well... especially on the high end, where the CPU alone can cost a couple thousand dollars.
    Generally when I disagree with someone I try to start my response with a non-combative word like "Interesting" (rather than words like "ridiculous") in order to keep them reading and to keep things civil. It's my style. I rarely get hostile or insulting, because I tend to feel that such approaches don't win over anyone. In fact, if the first words of my post are "I agree with you..." then you should be prepared for a particularly argumentative post. :wink: 
    muthuk_vanalingamCheeseFreezewilliamlondon
  • Reply 23 of 37
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    jdb8167 said:
    entropys said:
    • ASi macbook, there could be a Mac mini but I believe Cook’s long term goal has no interest in desktops, he really wants iPad to be the future in an appliance vision of computing. The ASi MacBook will just be another step in that direction. If this theory is right, the first model will not outclass an iPad Pro  in raw performance. This might mean a new iPad Pro as well then.
    This doesn’t make much sense. Why would Apple spend billions to create a new line of Mac specific SoCs if they have no interest in Macs? They are creating ASi Macs because Intel isn’t meeting their needs and hasn’t for half a decade. It really isn’t any more complicated than that.
    Yup. Someone didn’t think that through. 
    williamlondonBeatswatto_cobra
  • Reply 24 of 37
    Finally, AI is reporting something from a leaker that has a bit of success history; that's the real first here.  ;)
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 25 of 37
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    AppleZulu said:
    Apple car. It’s definitely going to be an Apple car. 
    Three Apple cars...  The Apple Car, the Apple Car Max, and of course the Apple Car Mini... oh wait...
    JFC_PAtht
  • Reply 26 of 37
    My guess is they’ll introduce a lower spec iMac, and a lower spec MacBook (Pro) that doesn’t rely on a discrete GPU.

    I am really in need of a new computer but okay holding off until they have a more higher specced Apple Silicon machine. 
    williamlondon
  • Reply 27 of 37
    I don’t doubt they’ll be exciting, but that excitement will soon disappear when you’ll see the price. Or the staring price will be reasonable, but with too little storage, etc. that seems to be the Apple of late. 
    CheeseFreezemuthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 28 of 37
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,093member
    "A couple" usually means two. "A few" usually means three.
    It usually does, except if not wanting to reveal how many.  Even specifying “a couple” means two and that’s giving away too much info.

    A “few” in this case just means anything more than one.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 29 of 37
    flydogflydog Posts: 1,123member
    "A couple" usually means two. "A few" usually means three.
    The word "few" means "a small number of things," not "at least three."   In any case, this was an off-the-cuff remark, and it could mean 2, 3, or 20 more products.   
    fastasleepwatto_cobra
  • Reply 30 of 37
    flydogflydog Posts: 1,123member

    digitol said:
    Gotta be brutally honest here. Nothing one more exciting thing has come from Tim Cook yet. Apple still has good products, but nothing exciting. Especially if you contrast that to cars that drive themselves, rockets that land, most of all which most of us probably don’t  stop and think about; batteries powerful cheap and small enough to create née ways of personal transport. 
    Whatever. Been hearing this tired old line since 2011, yet Apple continues to grow at an astounding rate. 
    JFC_PABeatswatto_cobra
  • Reply 31 of 37
    flydogflydog Posts: 1,123member


    During its legally-mandated financial earnings call, Tim Cook took the unusual step for Apple of volunteering the information that more is to come. He didn't specify any product or service, but typically Apple avoids saying even as much as he has now.

    There is no law or regulation that requires a public company to host an earnings call.


    fastasleepwatto_cobra
  • Reply 32 of 37
    BeatsBeats Posts: 3,073member
    digitol said:
    Gotta be brutally honest here. Nothing one more exciting thing has come from Tim Cook yet. Apple still has good products, but nothing exciting. Especially if you contrast that to cars that drive themselves, rockets that land, most of all which most of us probably don’t  stop and think about; batteries powerful cheap and small enough to create née ways of personal transport. 

    AirPods and Apple Watch. Apple Silicon Macs coming very soon.

    Dumb goal posts by the way.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 33 of 37
    22july201322july2013 Posts: 3,571member
    flydog said:


    During its legally-mandated financial earnings call, Tim Cook took the unusual step for Apple of volunteering the information that more is to come. He didn't specify any product or service, but typically Apple avoids saying even as much as he has now.
    There is no law or regulation that requires a public company to host an earnings call.
    That is good to know, thanks. You appear to be correct, and AI appears to be wrong. I wish I had caught that myself.

    On the other hand, a public company is indeed required to "file earnings reports that detail how a company has been performing." But your statement was correct, based on a quick web search.
  • Reply 34 of 37
    mike1mike1 Posts: 3,284member
    Big stock plummet after the bell today. Guess they got the news that more things are coming...

    Whole market continues to take a dump too.
    SpamSandwichwatto_cobra
  • Reply 35 of 37
    entropys said:
    The whole point of ASi is to capitalise on the A series investment, simplify the supply chain, control the whole widget and maximise margins.  
    The ASi macs will be running a Mac OS that is more and more iOS in its underpinnings and function with each new version.  The macs will be more and more locked down....like an iPad.  At what point will an iMac for example really be just a great big iPad? Or a MacBook be an iPad with keyboard welded on? Why buy that when you can get an untinkerable iPad cheap and a magic keyboard for a few hundred extra $ and high margins for Apple?
    The "whole point" as they very specifically outlined at WWDC was to reach performance and thermal goals as well as integrate specialized computing units for discrete functions, all of which were hamstrung by Intel. You make it sound like some bean-counting bullshit.

    "Mac OS that is more and more iOS in its underpinnings" is hilarious given iOS is built on macOS and they're simply unifying frameworks and APIs that ease cross-platform development between the two. There's nothing here to suggest the iMac becomes "great big iPad", and the "why buy" is that it's a Mac with all of its functionality, flexibility, and power that the iPadOS products don't provide, is fundamentally designed for different input (not touch-based), so forth.

    They've said over and over that they're not merging the two OSes or product lines. The idea that they magically merge because they share a processor is ridiculously myopic thinking; there's literally no reason to come to that conclusion unless you're ignorant or being willfully obtuse.
    mattinozwatto_cobra
  • Reply 36 of 37

    digitol said:
    Gotta be brutally honest here. Nothing one more exciting thing has come from Tim Cook yet. Apple still has good products, but nothing exciting. Especially if you contrast that to cars that drive themselves, rockets that land, most of all which most of us probably don’t  stop and think about; batteries powerful cheap and small enough to create née ways of personal transport. 
    Why are you still here?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 37 of 37
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,358member
    flydog said:
    "A couple" usually means two. "A few" usually means three.
    The word "few" means "a small number of things," not "at least three."   In any case, this was an off-the-cuff remark, and it could mean 2, 3, or 20 more products.   
    The word "few" has been dictionary-defined as "more than one" and as "a small number of things", which allows that the word has some latitude in what that number might be, and that it's also relative and somewhat subjective beyond the initial definitions noted.

    Consider the word "many", often listed as the opposite of "few". It has no definitive number in it's definition.

    In the context of Apple products, few people would consider 20 more new products between now and the end of the year as "few" unless they were discussing the number of iPhones shipped, or the number of times Rob Enderle has been right about his Apple predictions.

    My guess is three, maybe four new products. If Apple shipped five new, not before mentioned/announced products, I personally would think that a lot (for Apple).
    watto_cobra
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