No new iPhone SE in early 2021, says Ming-Chi Kuo

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in General Discussion edited November 2020
Despite previous expectations that Apple will soon launch a new iPhone SE, or possible "iPhone SE Plus," in early 2021, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo says the earliest this will happen is the second half of the year.

Apple's iPhone SE
Apple's iPhone SE


While Best Buy recently produced a screen protector for an "iPhone SE Plus," and while Ming-Chi Kuo has previously expected both that and a new iPhone SE, the analyst now says neither are coming soon. Although he does not specify a new date or time frame, Kuo has told investors that it won't happen in the first half of 2021.

Kuo's latest investor note is specifically about supplier Yujingguang, better known as Genius Electronic Optical. He cautions that a belief that "the market overestimates revenue and gross margin" of the company.

"We believe that Genius Electronic Optical's October revenue [will turn out to be] lower than the market consensus because of increased competition," he continues. "We expect this competition to intensify in 2021."

"The market expects that [the first half of 2021] will see a new iPhone SE [which would] push up the shipment momentum of Genius Electronic Optical," says Kuo. "But we don't think that 1H21 will have a new iPhone SE."

Kuo also believes that Genius Electronic Optical is not going to get as many component orders for the "iPhone 13" as it did the iPhone 12. "We estimate that [its] ultra wide-angle lens will drop from 50% of the iPhone 12 series to 30% of the iPhone 13 series," he concludes.

Although Kuo states that this expectation is down to increased competition from rival suppliers, there may also be an issue to do with quality. Previously, Kuo reported that Genius Electronic Optical was having production control issues with the iPhone 12.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 5
    Of course it’s not coming! There’s a Mini and an older SE still on sale - there’s no room for it! Did we really need an article to state the obvious or do investors need this level of handholding?
    aderuttercornchip
  • Reply 2 of 5
    The analysts have to be seen to be saying something to justify their existence.
    Personally I wouldn’t be surprised if we do not get a new iPhone SE ever, the mini is the small iPhone now.
    cornchip
  • Reply 3 of 5
    M68000M68000 Posts: 727member
    It’s believed by some that Apple is working on new Touch ID in the screen.  So,  no surprise if they don’t do a SE plus as we know it. 
  • Reply 4 of 5
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,913member
    Apple have to feel that there is a need/demand for the next iPhone SE with differentiated tech like touch id on power button but if under screen touchid is further along than iPhone 13 or 14 will basically be center of efforts with under screen touchid and there won't be another SE.
  • Reply 5 of 5
    flydogflydog Posts: 1,124member
    marsorry said:
    Of course it’s not coming! There’s a Mini and an older SE still on sale - there’s no room for it! Did we really need an article to state the obvious or do investors need this level of handholding?
    aderutter said:
    The analysts have to be seen to be saying something to justify their existence.
    Personally I wouldn’t be surprised if we do not get a new iPhone SE ever, the mini is the small iPhone now.
    How about reading the entire article, then maybe digesting the info for a few seconds before commenting:

    Kuo's latest investor note is specifically about supplier Yujingguang, better known as Genius Electronic Optical. He cautions that a belief that "the market overestimates revenue and gross margin" of the company.

    "The market expects that [the first half of 2021] will see a new iPhone SE [which would] push up the shipment momentum of Genius Electronic Optical," says Kuo. "But we don't think that 1H21 will have a new iPhone SE."
    This investor note has nothing to do with Apple, and is not intended to communicate to Apple investors or consumers that a new SE is not coming.  It is regarding a third-party supplier that manufactures components for the SE.  Other analysts and investors are overestimating revenue for this third-party supplier, and that would only be justified by a new SE.  The fact that is occurring means it is not obvious to those people, and that it is worthy of mention. 
    edited November 2020 muthuk_vanalingam
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