Rudy Giuliani says warrant illegal since agents already had data 'from the iCloud'

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  • Reply 41 of 50
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    ilarynx said:
    There is literally no reason for this to be an article on AI.  Because he used the term “iCloud” in his argument?   And the last three paragraphs of the article - general commentary on Apple’s work with government requests - have been covered, ad nauseam, in other pieces.  

    Stay out of politics, please.
    We have very frequently been requested to increase our coverage of Apple as it relates to political matters. In fact, those requests greatly outnumber the times that we have been asked to stop doing so. And, I'm not sure why you're calling this "political" because our coverage on this is not that in any way.

    You'll probably find that the other coverage of this particular matter in other venues exclude "general commentary on Apple’s work with government requests" -- which is the entire point of the matter.


    Typically, those requesting that online magazines (or sports figures or entertainers or whomever) "stay out of politics" do so because their particular political persuasion isn't being stroked. In this country, everyone gets to participate in politics. 

    But some animals are more equal than others.
    edited April 2021 geekmeeFileMakerFellerright_said_fredspheric
  • Reply 42 of 50
    geekmeegeekmee Posts: 647member
    Can you say? Legalism

    Or to be consistent with previous actions,
    maybe distraction… ‘Look over there!’

    And why do we expect proven liars,
    to start telling the truth??
    edited April 2021 DAalseth
  • Reply 43 of 50
    tommikeletommikele Posts: 599member
    There is literally no reason for this to be an article on AI.  Because he used the term “iCloud” in his argument?   And the last three paragraphs of the article - general commentary on Apple’s work with government requests - have been covered, ad nauseam, in other pieces.  

    Stay out of politics, please.
    You read the headline and still chose to read the article. Take a breather on the hypocrisy routine.
    GeorgeBMacfastasleep
  • Reply 44 of 50
    jeffharrisjeffharris Posts: 859member

    FBI was told ahead of time to dig into Rudy Giuliani but to leave Hunter Biden's stuff alone!  FBI and Justice Department appearingly not interested in investigating Hunter Biden at all, only Giuliani and Trump!
    That directive came straight from the great Q itself! 
    GeorgeBMacfastasleep
  • Reply 45 of 50
    cpsro said:
    I don't believe Signal stores its messages in the cloud.
    Signal stores locally. 

    You are further able to set some parameters yourselves, such as:
    - How to handle contacts
    - Disappearing messages and timing of the vaporisation
    - Keyboard typing security (not possible for all devices, or keyboards)
    - Deletion of sent messages.

    ...but whatever you do, don't take my word for it, check for your selves on signal.org.
  • Reply 46 of 50
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,824member
    Sniff … sniff … sniff … who farted?
  • Reply 47 of 50
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    DAalseth said:
    Giuliani has been dirty for years, way before he was Mayor of NY. I expect the Ukraine investigation was just an excuse to get the warrant, and with the drives in hand now they will find some real dirt on him. When they hit him with serious charges I really expect him to flip and start blabbing about what he knows about the things DT and his kids have done. (They’ve known each other for decades.) Then things will get interesting. 

    Cohen has already said Rudy will flip as soon as he starts looking at spending a few years in a cell with BigBubba.

    But Rudy is not the only one they're likely to flip.  Allen Weisellberg has even more dirt on Trump than Rudy does.
    DAalseth
  • Reply 48 of 50
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    cpsro said:
    Xed said:
    cpsro said:
    iOS devices have log files and other local storage that may be evidentiary. Giuliani's physical documents, files, receipts, etc. were presumably also gathered by law enforcement--those items wouldn't be in the cloud.
    Giuliani can say anything he wants (outside of testifying in a court of law) but the search and seizure is almost certainly legal.
    Even if they didn't, his comment that it's illegal for a warrant to be executed if they already have similar data is ridiculous.
    We have to expect he will defend himself by challenging the legality not just in the public eye but in court. Who doesn't expect the FBI went by the book in such a high profile case? His challenge will almost certainly be as successful as his election challenges.

    True!
    But that's how these guys work.   Or, more correctly, they work the legal system to their advantage:
    They'll use it to threaten, intimidate or even punish adversaries
    Then they'll use it to confuse and delay any charges against themselves by filing appeal upon appeal upon appeal.

    There's a decent chance Rudy will be in a grave before he's in a cell.
  • Reply 49 of 50
    verne araseverne arase Posts: 479member
    What a great legal mind Rudi is.

    Do you suppose he'll be nominated as a justice for the Supreme Court?
    edited May 2021 GeorgeBMacspheric
  • Reply 50 of 50
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    What a great legal mind Rudi is.

    Do you suppose he'll be nominated as a justice for the Supreme Court?

    2024
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