US removes Xiaomi from blacklist banning Chinese technology firms

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The US Defense Department has agreed to remove Chinese smartphone maker Xiaomi from its blacklist of technology firms, following a successful lawsuit.

Xiaomi Mi 11i smartphones
Xiaomi Mi 11i smartphones


Xiaomi should shortly be able to resume trading and dealing with American companies, after the US Defense Department agreed to remove it from a blacklist. The smartphone company had been one of many subjected to various sanctions and blacklisting by former president Trump.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the decision to delist the company comes two months after Xiaomi won a federal lawsuit over the blacklisting. Judge Rudolph Contreras then ordered a temporary halt to enforcement of the ban, ruling that the Pentagon had failed to provide sufficient evidence.

The decision also comes a week after Judge Contreras ordered a similar halt to the US Defense Department's blacklisting of Chinese mapping company Luokung Technology Corp.

Separately, in September 2020, US Magistrate Judge Laurel Beeler blocked the execution of an executive order banning WeChat from the App Store, on similar grounds.

Xiaomi and the Pentagon have jointly announced that they will now negotiate terms regarding the prior de-listing the company. The court is expecting to hear a final proposal regarding the terms by May 20.

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  • Reply 1 of 23
    BeatsBeats Posts: 2,316member
    Great. That’s what we need. More Chinese knockoffs with an interest from communists. 
    cg27macseekerigorskylkrupplibertyforallwatto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 23
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 5,610member
    Why would anyone want to do business with a company owned by the CCP.  
    igorskylkruppDogpersonlibertyforallwatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 23
    entropysentropys Posts: 2,966member
    Xiaomi  make some good gear, like portable batteries and robot vacuum cleaners, but all too much of their phone, earphone and computer gear is a blatant rip off of Apple gear. 
    And at the moment the Chinese government’s behaviour is pretty bad, making it hard to justify dealing with Chinese companies.
    tmayigorskywatto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 23
    KuyangkohKuyangkoh Posts: 664member
    There we go, supporting rip offs
    igorskywatto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 23
    DAalsethDAalseth Posts: 1,556member
    Even when they were doing the right thing, they did it in such a clumsy, inept way with no regard for the rule of law, that it gets thrown out. This is what happens when you have a leader that has no understanding that there are ways to do things if you want them to stand up in court. You can’t bully and buy your way around the rule of law.
    igorskymuthuk_vanalingamGeorgeBMacwatto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 23
    Dougie.SDougie.S Posts: 26member
    Beats said:
    Great. That’s what we need. More Chinese knockoffs with an interest from communists. 
    Please read definition of communism, then compare that to how China is actually run. Spoiler: It’s very different and communism in name only. 
    edited May 12 rob53muthuk_vanalingamAlex_VdewmeGeorgeBMaccharlesatlas
  • Reply 7 of 23
    rob53rob53 Posts: 2,517member
    Dougie.S said:
    Beats said:
    Great. That’s what we need. More Chinese knockoffs with an interest from communists. 
    Please read definition of communism, then compare that to how China is actually run. Spoiler: It’s very different and communism in name only. 
    Yep. Same as calling the USA a democratic republic. 

    Too many people rag on China while buying China manufactured goods at almost every store in the US. It’s difficult to find things actually made in the USA. Even most American branded automobile companies build most if their vehicles outside the US especially parts. 
    ITGUYINSDmuthuk_vanalingamAlex_Vwatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 23
    toddzrxtoddzrx Posts: 223member
    DAalseth said:
    Even when they were doing the right thing, they did it in such a clumsy, inept way with no regard for the rule of law, that it gets thrown out. This is what happens when you have a leader that has no understanding that there are ways to do things if you want them to stand up in court. You can’t bully and buy your way around the rule of law.
    Yeah, because Trump personally litigated this case from the get-go. Whatever dude. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 23
    igorskyigorsky Posts: 512member
    Dougie.S said:
    Beats said:
    Great. That’s what we need. More Chinese knockoffs with an interest from communists. 
    Please read definition of communism, then compare that to how China is actually run. Spoiler: It’s very different and communism in name only. 
    You're right...it's much worse.
    lkruppqwerty52Dogpersonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 23
    ITGUYINSDITGUYINSD Posts: 270member
    entropys said:
    Xiaomi  make some good gear, like portable batteries and robot vacuum cleaners, but all too much of their phone, earphone and computer gear is a blatant rip off of Apple gear. 
    And at the moment the Chinese government’s behaviour is pretty bad, making it hard to justify dealing with Chinese companies.
    https://www.mi.com/global/product/mi-11-ultra/overview

    I fail to see how their phones are "a blatant ripoff of Apple gear".  The M11 Lite -- similar lens layout but how many different ways can you arrange 3 lens + flash?

    Reviews of their high end phones are usually great.
    edited May 12
  • Reply 11 of 23
    longfanglongfang Posts: 230member
    igorsky said:
    Dougie.S said:
    Beats said:
    Great. That’s what we need. More Chinese knockoffs with an interest from communists. 
    Please read definition of communism, then compare that to how China is actually run. Spoiler: It’s very different and communism in name only. 
    You're right...it's much worse.
    Why it’s downright capitalist. China and Republicans have one thing in common. They both don’t want to die poor.
    12Strangers
  • Reply 12 of 23
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,183member
    ITGUYINSD said:
    entropys said:
    Xiaomi  make some good gear, like portable batteries and robot vacuum cleaners, but all too much of their phone, earphone and computer gear is a blatant rip off of Apple gear. 
    And at the moment the Chinese government’s behaviour is pretty bad, making it hard to justify dealing with Chinese companies.
    https://www.mi.com/global/product/mi-11-ultra/overview

    I fail to see how their phones are "a blatant ripoff of Apple gear".  The M11 Lite -- similar lens layout but how many different ways can you arrange 3 lens + flash?

    Reviews of their high end phones are usually great.
    Your post suggests a complete ignorance of history, of how this evolved since 2007. 

    Unless you have a narrative you're trying to peddle, look up Xiaomi's past of ripping off Apple's designs (if not software). 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 13 of 23
    KuyangkohKuyangkoh Posts: 664member
    longfang said:
    igorsky said:
    Dougie.S said:
    Beats said:
    Great. That’s what we need. More Chinese knockoffs with an interest from communists. 
    Please read definition of communism, then compare that to how China is actually run. Spoiler: It’s very different and communism in name only. 
    You're right...it's much worse.
    Why it’s downright capitalist. China and Republicans have one thing in common. They both don’t want to die poor.
    They are saying they have more freedom and money than Americans now….so what happened?? I guess they worked hard, why spent on designing if you can just copy it and sell more for less (smart)
  • Reply 14 of 23
    hydrogenhydrogen Posts: 262member
    longfang said:
    igorsky said:
    Dougie.S said:
    Beats said:
    Great. That’s what we need. More Chinese knockoffs with an interest from communists. 
    Please read definition of communism, then compare that to how China is actually run. Spoiler: It’s very different and communism in name only. 
    You're right...it's much worse.
    Why it’s downright capitalist. China and Republicans have one thing in common. They both don’t want to die poor.

    You know the story : Q : What is capitalism ? A: it is the exploitation of man by man Q : What is communism ? A: it is just the opposite
    longfangdewme
  • Reply 15 of 23
    longfanglongfang Posts: 230member
    Kuyangkoh said:
    longfang said:
    igorsky said:
    Dougie.S said:
    Beats said:
    Great. That’s what we need. More Chinese knockoffs with an interest from communists. 
    Please read definition of communism, then compare that to how China is actually run. Spoiler: It’s very different and communism in name only. 
    You're right...it's much worse.
    Why it’s downright capitalist. China and Republicans have one thing in common. They both don’t want to die poor.
    They are saying they have more freedom and money than Americans now….so what happened?? I guess they worked hard, why spent on designing if you can just copy it and sell more for less (smart)
    Why yes. Copying is the American way after all. I mean isn’t that how American industry got its start? By copying from Europe.
  • Reply 16 of 23
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 9,471member
    sflocal said:
    Why would anyone want to do business with a company owned by the CCP.  

    You just displayed your ignorance of the facts.   Or was that misstatement intentional?
  • Reply 17 of 23
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 9,471member
    DAalseth said:
    Even when they were doing the right thing, they did it in such a clumsy, inept way with no regard for the rule of law, that it gets thrown out. This is what happens when you have a leader that has no understanding that there are ways to do things if you want them to stand up in court. You can’t bully and buy your way around the rule of law.

    Trump knew the law very well.  But he either ignored it or used it based on his agenda.
  • Reply 18 of 23
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 9,471member
    hydrogen said:
    longfang said:
    igorsky said:
    Dougie.S said:
    Beats said:
    Great. That’s what we need. More Chinese knockoffs with an interest from communists. 
    Please read definition of communism, then compare that to how China is actually run. Spoiler: It’s very different and communism in name only. 
    You're right...it's much worse.
    Why it’s downright capitalist. China and Republicans have one thing in common. They both don’t want to die poor.

    You know the story : Q : What is capitalism ? A: it is the exploitation of man by man Q : What is communism ? A: it is just the opposite

    Both statements are true.   Both statements are false.

    The truth, as always, lies somewhere in the middle.

    Pure democratic capitalism has strengths and weaknesses
    Pure communism (better termed autocratic socialism) has strengths and weaknesses

    Neither the U.S. nor China has a pure version of either.  Both are a mixture with leanings on one side or the other.
    edited May 13
  • Reply 19 of 23
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 9,471member
    Trump based his sanctions on fabricated and unsupported claims of "National Security" and shouted down any nay-sayers.

    Without his megaphone the claims will be questioned.
  • Reply 20 of 23
    ITGUYINSDITGUYINSD Posts: 270member
    ITGUYINSD said:
    entropys said:
    Xiaomi  make some good gear, like portable batteries and robot vacuum cleaners, but all too much of their phone, earphone and computer gear is a blatant rip off of Apple gear. 
    And at the moment the Chinese government’s behaviour is pretty bad, making it hard to justify dealing with Chinese companies.
    https://www.mi.com/global/product/mi-11-ultra/overview

    I fail to see how their phones are "a blatant ripoff of Apple gear".  The M11 Lite -- similar lens layout but how many different ways can you arrange 3 lens + flash?

    Reviews of their high end phones are usually great.
    Your post suggests a complete ignorance of history, of how this evolved since 2007. 

    Unless you have a narrative you're trying to peddle, look up Xiaomi's past of ripping off Apple's designs (if not software). 
    No narrative and I don't really care one way or the other, but if you read what I replied to:

    "but all too much of their phone, earphone and computer gear is a blatant rip off of Apple gear. "

    IS a blatant ripoff (suggests PRESENT products), not WAS a blatant ripoff (suggests PAST products).  I live in the present and I don't see much of their current product line of phones being a rip off of the iPhone.
    muthuk_vanalingam
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