Fired Apple employee who aired workplace concerns gets approval to sue company

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  • Reply 41 of 49
    JWSCJWSC Posts: 1,061member
    In case some people missed it, Ms. Gjovik is studying law at Santa Clara University School of Law.  I would hazard a guess that she has no plans to return to the tech field as a manager of any kind, and really never did.  The legal actions she is undertaking or about to undertake are more likely resume builders for future employment at law firms focused on employee advocacy and employee rights.  She may believe in what she is doing.  But it is also a self-serving move that could catapult her to prominence in the legal profession, should any of her legal actions prove victorious.
  • Reply 42 of 49
    crowleycrowley Posts: 9,324member
    crowley said:
    jdw said:
    jdw said:
    genovelle said:
    Did she consider the toxins in her tattoos?
    ...Why in THE world human beings these days feel the need to ... pierce their bodies with needles ... into the skin is something I will NEVER comprehend.  People do it because it's popular.  ...
    100% Natural Skin.  It does a body good.
    Does your stated logic also apply to body and ear piercings? For me, it does. Do you feel the same?
    Yes, I feel the same.  Admittedly, I do hate needles.  But I still don't understand why tattoos and piercings have become so popular over the last decade.  Human beings are a bit too fickle to get something etched into their bodies for life.  Goodness knows most married couples can't even stay married regardless of their promise to remain married "until death" do they part. So if a 20 year old gets a tattoo, will they honestly love that thing until death? If not, will they have the money to get it professional removed when they finally realize they got it due to what was fashionable at the time, rather than what common sense dictated?  At least with bee hive hair styles in the 60's and bell bottoms in the 70's, you could easy just stop doing that after the fads died off.  But when you tattoo and punch holes in your body, that sticks with you for pretty much the rest of your life.

    And as to the "freedom of expression" arguments, why not get a temporary tattoo instead?  Express yourself as you like but easily change your mind later at next to no additional cost.  Again, people change.  We don't stay the same, and I don't just mean physical age.  We mentally change too.  What we did 30 years ago, isn't necessarily what we want now.  But when you use your freedom of expression to make a (mostly) permanent change to your body, it could be something you regret later in life.  I've met many a person who told me just that.  As such, I don't just teach my kids to "do what feels good" or "express your freedom as you like."  I suggest a little common sense to be mixed with their freedom of choice.  It's only reasonable.
    You know what's more reasonable?  Letting adults make their own decisions about what they do with their bodies and minding your own damn business.
    For someone who spends so much time telling others what to do, that's hilariously ironic. You talk about freedom of expression but you are keen to tell others to shut up.
    I do my best to ignore your ignorant and infuriatingly stupid ponderings and your mind-numbingly idiotic attempts at humour, so please don't talk to me; I'm not interested in anything you have to say.
    ronnelijahg
  • Reply 43 of 49
    BosaBosa Posts: 103member
    JWSC said:
    In case some people missed it, Ms. Gjovik is studying law at Santa Clara University School of Law.  I would hazard a guess that she has no plans to return to the tech field as a manager of any kind, and really never did.  The legal actions she is undertaking or about to undertake are more likely resume builders for future employment at law firms focused on employee advocacy and employee rights.  She may believe in what she is doing.  But it is also a self-serving move that could catapult her to prominence in the legal profession, should any of her legal actions prove victorious.
    Yes , “I was harassed when my manager complimented me saying I did better in a presentation “ yeah that will work everywhere!

    Apple is paying for her law school as well as her 386k salary. That is very nice but given her history, no law firm will hire her  and will pay her close to 386k lol
    edited September 2021
  • Reply 44 of 49
    BosaBosa Posts: 103member
    lonestar1 said:
    ... drilling down on some of the article links may better help understand her concerns and zeitgeist ...
    Indeed, it does, but not in the way you suggest.

    The fact that she claims she was exposed to toxic waste at both her apartment and her office suggests that she’s either the unluckiest person in the world or a loon. 
     And she apparently is also the only person exposed at both places and no Medical person will back her up lol

    People say she is in law school, which Apple  was paying pay, and do you see how Apple legal team just basically ended Epic Mobile, a billion dollar company? Good luck Ashley
  • Reply 45 of 49
    JWSCJWSC Posts: 1,061member
    Bosa said:
    JWSC said:
    In case some people missed it, Ms. Gjovik is studying law at Santa Clara University School of Law.  I would hazard a guess that she has no plans to return to the tech field as a manager of any kind, and really never did.  The legal actions she is undertaking or about to undertake are more likely resume builders for future employment at law firms focused on employee advocacy and employee rights.  She may believe in what she is doing.  But it is also a self-serving move that could catapult her to prominence in the legal profession, should any of her legal actions prove victorious.
    Yes , “I was harassed when my manager complimented me saying I did better in a presentation “ yeah that will work everywhere!

    Apple is paying for her law school as well as her 386k salary. That is very nice but given her history, no law firm will hire her  and will pay her close to 386k lol
    If she wins any of her legal actions, what is your logical argument to say that no law firm will hire her?  Are you suggesting she is foolish enough to sue a law firm?  Well, who knows.  Maybe she is.  But I doubt those doing the hiring at law firms will see it that way.  They’ll be far more focused on how much they might earn engaging in similar lawsuits across the country.
    h2p
  • Reply 46 of 49
    jdwjdw Posts: 1,016member
    crowley said:
    You know what's more reasonable?  Letting adults make their own decisions about what they do with their bodies and minding your own damn business.
    LOL. Let's examine that "reasoning," shall we?  You could've just allowed me as an Adult to use my body to type my opinion and mind your own business, but you didn't.  :-)

    The good news for you is that in a forum like this, we don't mind our business.  We share thoughts as per the nature of online forums.  Everyone has a strong opinion, especially you, Crowley.  If you didn't crow about something at least 10 times a day in this forum, you'd no doubt be extremely lonely and feel unfulfilled.

    Happy Crowing!
  • Reply 47 of 49
    crowleycrowley Posts: 9,324member
    jdw said:
    crowley said:
    You know what's more reasonable?  Letting adults make their own decisions about what they do with their bodies and minding your own damn business.
    LOL. Let's examine that "reasoning," shall we?  You could've just allowed me as an Adult to use my body to type my opinion and mind your own business, but you didn't.  :-)
    Don't be fucking absurd.  I have no opinion on what you privately do with your body, your life, or what bigoted trash you care to fill your head with.  Keep it to yourself and we're fine.  When you start whining about what other people do with theirs, that's when I tell you to put a cork in it, no one cares for your irrelevant opinions.
    ronnelijahg
  • Reply 48 of 49
    crowley said:
    crowley said:
    jdw said:
    jdw said:
    genovelle said:
    Did she consider the toxins in her tattoos?
    ...Why in THE world human beings these days feel the need to ... pierce their bodies with needles ... into the skin is something I will NEVER comprehend.  People do it because it's popular.  ...
    100% Natural Skin.  It does a body good.
    Does your stated logic also apply to body and ear piercings? For me, it does. Do you feel the same?
    Yes, I feel the same.  Admittedly, I do hate needles.  But I still don't understand why tattoos and piercings have become so popular over the last decade.  Human beings are a bit too fickle to get something etched into their bodies for life.  Goodness knows most married couples can't even stay married regardless of their promise to remain married "until death" do they part. So if a 20 year old gets a tattoo, will they honestly love that thing until death? If not, will they have the money to get it professional removed when they finally realize they got it due to what was fashionable at the time, rather than what common sense dictated?  At least with bee hive hair styles in the 60's and bell bottoms in the 70's, you could easy just stop doing that after the fads died off.  But when you tattoo and punch holes in your body, that sticks with you for pretty much the rest of your life.

    And as to the "freedom of expression" arguments, why not get a temporary tattoo instead?  Express yourself as you like but easily change your mind later at next to no additional cost.  Again, people change.  We don't stay the same, and I don't just mean physical age.  We mentally change too.  What we did 30 years ago, isn't necessarily what we want now.  But when you use your freedom of expression to make a (mostly) permanent change to your body, it could be something you regret later in life.  I've met many a person who told me just that.  As such, I don't just teach my kids to "do what feels good" or "express your freedom as you like."  I suggest a little common sense to be mixed with their freedom of choice.  It's only reasonable.
    You know what's more reasonable?  Letting adults make their own decisions about what they do with their bodies and minding your own damn business.
    For someone who spends so much time telling others what to do, that's hilariously ironic. You talk about freedom of expression but you are keen to tell others to shut up.
    I do my best to ignore your ignorant and infuriatingly stupid ponderings and your mind-numbingly idiotic attempts at humour, so please don't talk to me; I'm not interested in anything you have to say.
    Thanks for saying "please." I'll consider your request. But wow, I'm very surprised that they let you stay on this website with all your personal attacks against anyone that disagrees with you.
  • Reply 49 of 49
    Fred257 said:
    She shows traits to me of someone with Borderline Personality Disorder.  And just like Johnny Depps ex malignant narcissist BPD wife shows the exact same victimization toolbox.  People should report abuse but her behavior is someone indicative of BPD.  My mother and one of my best friends with BPD acts the same as this person.  
    That was my first impression of her also. Borderline Personality Disorders are always trying to draw attention to themselves and instead of doing their jobs, they spend more time and energy fighting some perceived slight against them. They may initially impress the company with their skills but they quickly decompensate and an incredible amount of time is spent on trying to correct or appease the BPD before the company realizes how batshit crazy the person is. 
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