I guess it was a missed opportunity. However, for presentations and the like, how much does 4K @120Hz matter? I am assuming that most projectors would currently max out at HD resolution.
It matters when you want to use the thunderbolt ports for thunderbolt things (of which there are only 3 ports) and the hdmi for a dedicated video connection to an ultrawide 5k display. Hdmi 2.0 @60hz is noticeably more choppy than 120hz where it’s buttery smooth by comparison. High end gaming monitors run at lower resolution to achieve 300hz refresh rates because judder, jank, screen tearing and choppy frames are infuriating to look through. I just use mine for office rat stuff, but 100-144hz 5k ultrawide screens are a big improvement over dual displays and the silky smooth rendering is something hard to get away from once you’ve used it
Yes it should. Hardly anyone has USBc projectors. But they all have hdmi.
Who on Earth has projectors in this day and age? Never use HDMI ports, DP is so superior.
I've only once gone into a conference room and hooked up a projector via DP (mini-DP actually). Every other time it has been HDMI. And I do this a lot (admittedly less so in the past 18 months).
And there are many reason why HDMI is the preferable port to DisplayPort: ubiquity for one, sound for two, and TV compatibility as the cherry.
But that’s because mini dp cables always ALWAYS have bent wires in them because they’re a crap design. Usb-c is way improved and hdmi is pretty ok
It depends on how you look at it. When it was plugged in before, you'd get 3x TB4 ports. Now with Mag-safe, you get 3x TB4 ports plus HDMI. When it was unplugged before, you'd get 4x TB4 ports. Now unplugged, you get 3x TB4 plus HDMI.
Unplugged it replaces a port; plugged in, it gives an extra display option. I'd say this is a better compromise as it's unlikely someone would plug in 4x TB4 cables when unplugged from power.
I was looking at it in the exact words you used, "It's not replacing another port" — it quite literally is. I'm not complaining, but eat most certainly is using up a TB port that some people might want when they have no use for HDMI.
potentially, but on the other hand the HDMI port is a significant convenience for a large number of people.
As I've said before, I'd be willing to bet the number of people who will use the HDMI port significantly outnumber the number of people who would use 4 TB4 ports, especially unplugged from power. Just looking here on AI, there are a lot of people complaining about 'loosing' the 4th TB4 port, but I haven't seen a single one who actually needed it. On the other hand I've seen a large number of people who will use the HDMI & SD ports.
Honestly, these are incredibly powerful machines. Even 3 TB4 ports is a ton of potential - how many laptops on the market can even hold a candle to them?
JFC. There were four TB ports, now there are three and the HDMI replaced one. I was literally replying only *ONLY!* to "Marvin said: It's not replacing another port". Reading comprehension, people.
As for your anecdotal evidence, I'm sitting at my office using all four of my ports this very second. Again, though, I'm not complaining, just stating a fact.
Can one not run a 4K 120Hz display via the TB ports?
Go look at Apple's own specs:
Or Intel's:
External monitors. Connect multiple displays. One Thunderbolt 4 port can connect up to two 4K 60hz DisplayPort or HDMI monitors through a compatible dock or an adapter. Thunderbolt designated monitors can be connected directly.
It depends on how you look at it. When it was plugged in before, you'd get 3x TB4 ports. Now with Mag-safe, you get 3x TB4 ports plus HDMI. When it was unplugged before, you'd get 4x TB4 ports. Now unplugged, you get 3x TB4 plus HDMI.
Unplugged it replaces a port; plugged in, it gives an extra display option. I'd say this is a better compromise as it's unlikely someone would plug in 4x TB4 cables when unplugged from power.
I was looking at it in the exact words you used, "It's not replacing another port" — it quite literally is. I'm not complaining, but eat most certainly is using up a TB port that some people might want when they have no use for HDMI.
potentially, but on the other hand the HDMI port is a significant convenience for a large number of people.
As I've said before, I'd be willing to bet the number of people who will use the HDMI port significantly outnumber the number of people who would use 4 TB4 ports, especially unplugged from power. Just looking here on AI, there are a lot of people complaining about 'loosing' the 4th TB4 port, but I haven't seen a single one who actually needed it. On the other hand I've seen a large number of people who will use the HDMI & SD ports.
Honestly, these are incredibly powerful machines. Even 3 TB4 ports is a ton of potential - how many laptops on the market can even hold a candle to them?
JFC. There were four TB ports, now there are three and the HDMI replaced one. I was literally replying only *ONLY!* to "Marvin said: It's not replacing another port". Reading comprehension, people.
As for your anecdotal evidence, I'm sitting at my office using all four of my ports this very second. Again, though, I'm not complaining, just stating a fact.
Can one not run a 4K 120Hz display via the TB ports?
Go look at Apple's own specs:
Or Intel's:
External monitors. Connect multiple displays. One Thunderbolt 4 port can connect up to two 4K 60hz DisplayPort or HDMI monitors through a compatible dock or an adapter. Thunderbolt designated monitors can be connected directly.
Yes, I did look at Apple's own specs. The only frequency they mention is 60Hz. Just based on data rates, one would assume that being able to run 6K at 60Hz means it should be able to run 4K at 120, but it doesn't state that explicitly, which is why I asked.
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As for your anecdotal evidence, I'm sitting at my office using all four of my ports this very second. Again, though, I'm not complaining, just stating a fact.
Go look at Apple's own specs:
Or Intel's: