macOS 12.3 update causing problems for some PCI-E GPU owners

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in macOS edited March 2022
Apple's update to macOS Monterey 12.3 is causing problems for handful of Mac users, with some PCI-E GPU cards not delivering the speed that they used to in not just eGPU enclosures, but in the Mac Pro as well.




Following Monday's update of macOS to version 12.3, AppleInsider received emails from readers complaining that the operating system had stopped working optimally with their graphics card.

One email claimed that following the update, their Mac's processor's integrated graphics ran faster than their "$2,800 W6800X card." In another case, a user found their unidentified AMD RDNA card decreased in performance in a benchmark by 94% after the update.

The issue has seemingly existed throughout the beta process of macOS Monterey 12.3, with a MacRumors forum thread that started on February 2 seeing some users reporting problems. The issues seem to manifest with PCI-e cards both in eGPU enclosures, and some Mac Pro setups.

While a problem for some power users, it doesn't seem to be a widespread issue among those using AMD graphics cards in their workflow, nor with integrated graphics found in the iMac. There are relatively few forum posts and complaints about it, indicating it is only affecting a very small number of users at this time.

Testing by AppleInsider reveals that the performance drop does occur, but not in every instance. Testing in various combinations of GPUs and eGPU enclosures found performance drops in some cases, but not others.

If a PCI-E card is operating at full speed, it will continue to do so regardless of whether it is in a Mac Pro or eGPU enclosure. Varying the enclosure does not make a difference in speed.

After checking with one contact, it was found that Apple's own W6900X MPX module worked fine in their Mac Pro, however, a Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT worked at about half-speed in the same system.

Further points of contact have said that their RX 6900 XT cards were functioning fine.

As Apple Silicon Macs don't currently support eGPUs, the issue currently only impacts Intel-based Macs that do support the enclosures.

Apple provides the drivers for AMD video cards, not vendors. The testing and results strongly suggests there is some form of driver issue occurring with the latest update. This would be something that could potentially be solved in a software update, though Apple has yet to acknowledge the problem exists.

AppleInsider recommends that, if you use a Mac with a graphics card in some form, and employ that card in a mission-critical working capacity, to hold off from the macOS 12.3 update until Apple addresses the issue, or until more data is collected about what is impacted.

Read on AppleInsider

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 12
    keithwkeithw Posts: 104member
    My Metal score is about half of what it was on 12.2.1.   iMac Pro, eGPU, AMD RX 6900 XT.
    Come on Apple, this is ridiculous!

    Edit: A second run yielded a Metal score of 133606, but still significantly less than the 160620 achieved on 12.2.1.

    edited March 2022 watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 12
    And so it begins folks. No one should buy Intel Macs going forward except at firesale prices for the purposes of putting Windows, Linux or Chrome OS Flex on them. It was inevitable as Apple is going back from being a PC maker on the x86 platform conforming to the same hardware and software standards to its own proprietary tech (save for Thunderbolt) as it did prior to 2005 and has generally done with HomePods, iPhones, most iPads etc. It won't be intentional - no conspiracy theories or accusations of malice - but it is just the way that things always are for legacy platforms. 

    The folks most impacted will be small to medium orgs that use Mac Pros. They are likely going to have tons invested in hardware, software and workflows that may not be easy or cheap to replicate on other platforms. 
  • Reply 3 of 12
    This is affecting not only eGPU but Mac Pro users as well who are making using of OEM AMD 5xxx and 6xxx GPUs rather than Apple's MPX based GPUs.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/ter3g2/psa_macos_monterey_123_and_amd_5xxx_and_6xxx_gpu/
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 12
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,567administrator
    Warbands said:
    This is affecting not only eGPU but Mac Pro users as well who are making using of OEM AMD 5xxx and 6xxx GPUs rather than Apple's MPX based GPUs.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/ter3g2/psa_macos_monterey_123_and_amd_5xxx_and_6xxx_gpu/
    Right, that's what the article says.

    FTA first paragraph: "Apple's update to macOS Monterey 12.3 is causing problems for handful of Mac users, with some PCI-E GPU cards not delivering the speed that they used to in not just eGPU enclosures, but in the Mac Pro as well."

    Later on, FTA: "After checking with one contact, it was found that Apple's own W6900X MPX module worked fine in their Mac Pro, however, a Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT worked at about half-speed in the same system. 

    Further points of contact have said that their RX 6900 XT cards were functioning fine."
    edited March 2022 watto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 12
    keithwkeithw Posts: 104member
    Warbands said:
    This is affecting not only eGPU but Mac Pro users as well who are making using of OEM AMD 5xxx and 6xxx GPUs rather than Apple's MPX based GPUs.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/ter3g2/psa_macos_monterey_123_and_amd_5xxx_and_6xxx_gpu/
    Right, that's what the article says.

    FTA first paragraph: "Apple's update to macOS Monterey 12.3 is causing problems for handful of Mac users, with some PCI-E GPU cards not delivering the speed that they used to in not just eGPU enclosures, but in the Mac Pro as well."

    Later on, FTA: "After checking with one contact, it was found that Apple's own W6900X MPX module worked fine in their Mac Pro, however, a Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT worked at about half-speed in the same system. 

    Further points of contact have said that their RX 6900 XT cards were functioning fine."

    I'd sure like to know what is different about the RX 6900 XT users' configuration than mine! I did open a ticket with Apple support.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 12
    killroykillroy Posts: 225member
    I wonder if a PRAM reset would fix it.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 12
    keithwkeithw Posts: 104member
    killroy said:
    I wonder if a PRAM reset would fix it.

    It did not. After the NVRAM reset, a new run of GB5 gave 139955.  That's 87% of what it was under 12.2.1.

    Warbandswatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 12
    killroykillroy Posts: 225member
    keithw said:
    killroy said:
    I wonder if a PRAM reset would fix it.

    It did not. After the NVRAM reset, a new run of GB5 gave 139955.  That's 87% of what it was under 12.2.1.


    Bummer!

    watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 12
    This problem also affects my MacBook Pro 16 M1 Max 32 core GPU 64GB memory. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 12
    keithwkeithw Posts: 104member
    UPDATE: 12.3.1 (3/31/22) fixes the issue, at least on my system with an AMD eGPU.   Performance (at least under Geekbench 5) is back to what it was at 12.2.1.
  • Reply 11 of 12
    ai-pdnai-pdn Posts: 3member
    For what it's worth... My Blackmagic Design eGPU (AMD RX580) is performing the same as ever after the 12.3 and 12.3.1 updates.
  • Reply 12 of 12
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,567administrator
    keithw said:
    UPDATE: 12.3.1 (3/31/22) fixes the issue, at least on my system with an AMD eGPU.   Performance (at least under Geekbench 5) is back to what it was at 12.2.1.
    Yup, we talked about this last night.

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/04/01/the-macos-1231-update-fixed-bugs-affecting-pci-e-gpu-performance
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