Under-display Face ID could arrive with 'iPhone 16' in 2024

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A future iPhone upgrade introducing an under-display camera for Face ID to the iPhone may not arrive until 2024, an analyst claims, with a potentially clear and complete display forecast for the "iPhone 16."

Current rumors for the "iPhone 14 Pro" models has Apple considering a shift away from the infamous notch. However, in a tweet, TF Securities' Ming-Chi Kuo believes that the notch and its replacement could be retired by an under-display version in a future model.

In response to a tweet from DSCC analyst Ross Young posted on March 30 predicting an under-display version of Face ID for the iPhone 16, Kuo offered on Saturday morning that his prediction is the same. "Under-display Face ID coming in 2024 (iPhone 16)" Kuo writes.

My prediction is the same - under-display Face ID coming in 2024 (iPhone 16), and this time schedule is less of a technical issue and more of a marketing purpose. https://t.co/yK17YkQEEX

-- (Ming-Chi Kuo) (@mingchikuo)

April 2, 2022

As for why the concept will arrive in that specific model, Kuo adds "this time schedule is less of a technical issue and more of a marketing purpose." Kuo doesn't go into detail, but it is likely to do with the expected replacement for the notch.

A hole-punch cutout and pill-shaped hole is expected to arrive in the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models due in fall 2022. The two holes would replace the larger notch with a more minimalist appearance, once that provides users with more screen and a less-obvious display feature.

Given Apple's tendency to retain design changes for at least two years, if Apple does introduce the pill and hole-punch cutouts in the iPhone 14 Pro range, it's reasonable to expect Apple will stay with the concept for two generations at least. In March, Young proposed Apple would adopt the pill and hole across all models for the iPhone 15 series.

An under-display camera system was previously mused about by Kuo, with an April 2021 proclamation that such a system could launch on the iPhone in 2023.

Samsung Display is allegedly working on under-panel technology that could be used to hide the Face ID module in future iPhones. However, while it may surface in Samsung's Fold lineup in 2023, it may not make it onto the iPhone until the following year.

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macminion

Any rumors of when the lightning port or silencer switch would be eliminated?

bushman4

Under Display Face ID is a possibility as far as underscreen Touch ID …the technology is there, 

  has 6 patents  but if they had any intention of doing it it would have been done already. Instead  Apple chose to develop Masked Face ID

Japhey

I love rumor bingo. Who has 2025?

Beats

Japhey said:

I love rumor bingo. Who has 2025?

It’s always “next time”. Been hearing about under display TouchID every year, for example. 

bluefire1

Japhey said:

I love rumor bingo. Who has 2025?

2025 will likely unveil a 3D iPhone that automatically shuts itself off if you visit right wing and X-rated websites.

byronl

macminion said:

Any rumors of when the lightning port or silencer switch would be eliminated?

i hate the silencer switch

FrankS

Please stop with these recycled rumors; every year it’s the same.  ‘Maybe next year’

applguy

This is making my head spin faster than a hamster race. 

mattinoz

bushman4 said:

Under Display Face ID is a possibility as far as underscreen Touch ID …the technology is there, 

  has 6 patents  but if they had any intention of doing it it would have been done already. Instead  Apple chose to develop Masked Face ID

Apple have had patents for cameras under, through or incorporated in the screen from before the iPhone. 

libertyandfree

Seems like a lame reason to wait until 2024 for under screen FaceID.  Why not enclose the rumored pill and hole-punch with a black background that is basically a smaller notch then in 2023 Apple can finally get rid of the notch and have a clean looking display. I really am lost on why anyone (I.e, Apple) believes replacing the notch with an asymmetric pill and hole cutouts looks better or offers any more utility. 

wood1208

There won't be problem for many organizations and enterprises to upgrade/buy iPhone SE3 for there employees. I wish Apple upgraded it's design with some changes like edge-to-edge screen, means integrating touchid into power button, dual cameras. I am sure Apple will make such changes into SE4 in two years 2024 but that time it becomes too little too late.

mattinoz

libertyandfree said:

Seems like a lame reason to wait until 2024 for under screen FaceID.  Why not enclose the rumored pill and hole-punch with a black background that is basically a smaller notch then in 2023 Apple can finally get rid of the notch and have a clean looking display. I really am lost on why anyone (I.e, Apple) believes replacing the notch with an asymmetric pill and hole cutouts looks better or offers any more utility. 

Could be they don't understand that what the needed is to make space in the device. Current cameras are surfaced mounted where as under screen would need to move all the sensor deep in the device in order to see out a pinhole in the screen pixel grid. and not just one sensor at least 2 and the dot projector. I know they are saying marketing but it could be a technical reason like waiting for some other part to get smaller.