Twitter relaunching Verified, with manual authentication checks

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Elon Musk says Twitter will tentatively bring back a series of color-coded "Verified" marks, complete with manual checking of applicants.




Elon Musk's plan to just give a blue "Verified" check mark icon to any Twitter user willing to pay, went as badly wrong as everyone else could and did predict. Following a flood of fake accounts started for comedic purposes, or worse, the plan was abandoned.

Now Musk has announced that he plans to bring it back as part of a new and more complex system.

Elon Musks' Twitter announcement
Elon Musks' Twitter announcement


Questioned about the idea of using a "gold check for companies, grey check for government, blue for individuals," Musk did briefly elaborate.

"All verified individual humans will have same blue check," he tweeted, "as boundary of what constitutes 'notable' is otherwise too subjective."

"Individuals can have secondary tiny logo showing they belong to an org if verified as such by that org," continued Musk. "Longer explanation next week."

It's not clear, then, whether there are actually to be four "verified" check marks, if a verified individual is also verified to be working with a verified company. It's also not known whether all or some of the new verification checkmarks will have to be paid for.

Despite stating that "all verified accounts will be manually authenticated," Musk gave no indication of how that can would be done. Previously, Twitter may have had the staff to do it, but Musk has been laying off huge numbers of workers, prior to starting a new hiring effort on about November 22.

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  • Reply 1 of 23
    And many more colors to come... Who cares...
    watto_cobradrdavid
  • Reply 2 of 23
    I'm VERIFIED GONE.  It will be fun watching the train wreck.
    Who's going to manually verify?  Half his staff either were fired or jumped the sinking ship.
    edited November 2022 fred1Anilu_777DAalsethwatto_cobradrdavid
  • Reply 3 of 23
    ciacia Posts: 262member
    So basically the system from before he took over, but with different colors.   That's innovation!!
    StrangeDaysthtwatto_cobraFileMakerFellerdrdavid
  • Reply 4 of 23
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,405moderator
    Elon Musk says Twitter will tentatively bring back a series of color-coded "Verified" marks, complete with manual checking of applicants.

    Questioned about the idea of using a "gold check for companies, grey check for government, blue for individuals," Musk did briefly elaborate.

    "All verified individual humans will have same blue check," he tweeted, "as boundary of what constitutes 'notable' is otherwise too subjective."

    "Individuals can have secondary tiny logo showing they belong to an org if verified as such by that org," continued Musk. "Longer explanation next week."

    It's not clear, then, whether there are actually to be four "verified" check marks, if a verified individual is also verified to be working with a verified company. It's also not known whether all or some of the new verification checkmarks will have to be paid for.

    Despite stating that "all verified accounts will be manually authenticated," Musk gave no indication of how that can would be done.
    The verification doesn't all need to be done manually, except for companies, celebrities and politicians. To avoid fake accounts, they can maintain a list of celebrities and company accounts and already verified account names and any time a user tries to change their name to be similar one on the list (need to check for capital i substituting L and number 0 vs letter O), flag it for review. They can also give extra scrutiny to frequent name changes, significantly varied changes and new accounts.

    Notable individuals isn't all that subjective. There's a grey area (wrestling stars, TV personalities, Youtubers) but famous actors, musicians (Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, Hugh Jackman) and heavily followed accounts (Kardashians, models) are clearly notable and distinguished from everyday individuals with low followers. There's going to be more than one Tom Jones in the world and they can't all look like the same account. The famous one should be grey/gold tick. People can appeal their notable status but at the very least only allow one account to use that name and they can pay to reserve it. Pewdiepie can pay $1000 to reserve his name, even if he's only blue tick and nobody will pay that for a joke.
    Anilu_777watto_cobraFileMakerFeller
  • Reply 5 of 23
    pwrmac said:
    And many more colors to come... Who cares...
    Midnight
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 23
    Didn't Parler get booted from the app store for inadequate moderation policies? What does it mean when the big twit reverses all those previous moderation decisions, doesn't that effectively end moderation as posted in their TOS, and wouldn't that warrant a ban from the app store until they properly reimplement the policy??

    BTW, the number of ads on this site right now on the home page are disgusting.
    edited November 2022 Anilu_777watto_cobradrdavid
  • Reply 7 of 23
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,897administrator
    Didn't Parler get booted from the app store for inadequate moderation policies? What does it mean when the big twit reverses all those previous moderation decisions, doesn't that effectively end moderation as posted in their TOS, and wouldn't that warrant a ban from the app store until they properly reimplement the policy??

    BTW, the number of ads on this site right now on the home page are disgusting.
    There are no more ads than normal on the homepage.

    If you're referring to the Black Friday deals posts, feel free to not click on them, the same as you shouldn't click on anything else you don't want to read.
    williamlondondewmewatto_cobrazeus423
  • Reply 8 of 23
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    Didn't Parler get booted from the app store for inadequate moderation policies? What does it mean when the big twit reverses all those previous moderation decisions, doesn't that effectively end moderation as posted in their TOS, and wouldn't that warrant a ban from the app store until they properly reimplement the policy??

    BTW, the number of ads on this site right now on the home page are disgusting.

    If they are so disgusting then how much would you be willing to pay for a subscription to AppleInsider? $5/mo $10/mo. Sure we all just hate ads don’t we but ads are what make the world go around. Without ads free OTA broadcast TV would not exist. You must not know much about business and how a blog like AppleInsider pays the bills. Let’s see, there’s the domain service, the bandwidth, the employees, the taxes, the accountants, the lawyers. What did I forget. No, it’s the freetards of this world that are disgusting because they have no clue.
    williamlondondewmedocno42watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 23

    If you're referring to the Black Friday deals posts, feel free to not click on them, the same as you shouldn't click on anything else you don't want to read.
    Well, you do make that a bit difficult when, "above the fold", there's exactly one article that's not an ad, sponsored ad, or deal advert-story. And when the Latest News section is about 60/40 "deals" vs content.
    williamlondonwatto_cobradrdavid
  • Reply 10 of 23
    Didn't Parler get booted from the app store for inadequate moderation policies? What does it mean when the big twit reverses all those previous moderation decisions, doesn't that effectively end moderation as posted in their TOS, and wouldn't that warrant a ban from the app store until they properly reimplement the policy??

    BTW, the number of ads on this site right now on the home page are disgusting.
    There are no more ads than normal on the homepage.

    If you're referring to the Black Friday deals posts, feel free to not click on them, the same as you shouldn't click on anything else you don't want to read.
    lkrupp said:
    Didn't Parler get booted from the app store for inadequate moderation policies? What does it mean when the big twit reverses all those previous moderation decisions, doesn't that effectively end moderation as posted in their TOS, and wouldn't that warrant a ban from the app store until they properly reimplement the policy??

    BTW, the number of ads on this site right now on the home page are disgusting.

    If they are so disgusting then how much would you be willing to pay for a subscription to AppleInsider? $5/mo $10/mo. Sure we all just hate ads don’t we but ads are what make the world go around. Without ads free OTA broadcast TV would not exist. You must not know much about business and how a blog like AppleInsider pays the bills. Let’s see, there’s the domain service, the bandwidth, the employees, the taxes, the accountants, the lawyers. What did I forget. No, it’s the freetards of this world that are disgusting because they have no clue.
    Apologism and defeatism, nice, and a bit overly sensitive me thinks.
    MplsPlkruppwatto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 23
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,897administrator
    hmlongco said:

    If you're referring to the Black Friday deals posts, feel free to not click on them, the same as you shouldn't click on anything else you don't want to read.
    Well, you do make that a bit difficult when, "above the fold", there's exactly one article that's not an ad, sponsored ad, or deal advert-story. And when the Latest News section is about 60/40 "deals" vs content.
    As Black Friday and Cyber Monday fall behind us, that ratio will change. It's not what I'd call an enormous amount of labor to scroll the page. As Lkrupp has said, and the forum rules are clear about, AppleInsider is not a hobby.

    This concludes this avenue of discussion in this thread. If you'd like to continue it in DM, by all means, do so.
    edited November 2022 watto_cobrawilliamlondon
  • Reply 12 of 23
    Did Musk boost himself in the algorithm or did he push his tweets to everyone? I’ve never seen so many from him until now. Can you actually mute Musk or does he have some anti-mute thing going? 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 13 of 23
    DAalsethDAalseth Posts: 2,856member
    hmlongco said:

    If you're referring to the Black Friday deals posts, feel free to not click on them, the same as you shouldn't click on anything else you don't want to read.
    Well, you do make that a bit difficult when, "above the fold", there's exactly one article that's not an ad, sponsored ad, or deal advert-story. And when the Latest News section is about 60/40 "deals" vs content.
    I think if you check most print newspapers the editions for Black Friday and other big shopping days have massive amounts of ads, flyers, and sale inserts, often more than the pages for actual news. That’s been true for a century or so. 
    watto_cobradewme
  • Reply 14 of 23
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,759member
    I think for media and celebrities they should replace the check (of any color) with clown emoji instead.  Way more appropriate. 
    edited November 2022 watto_cobraentropys
  • Reply 15 of 23
    Marvin said:
    There's going to be more than one Tom Jones in the world
    True even with David Bowie gone.
    entropys
  • Reply 16 of 23
    pwrmac said:
    And many more colors to come... Who cares...
    Those who get allocated a yellow star might have something to say about it.
    drdavid
  • Reply 17 of 23
    I wonder what a brown star would mean...
  • Reply 18 of 23
    entropysentropys Posts: 4,221member
    pwrmac said:
    And many more colors to come... Who cares...
    Those who get allocated a yellow star might have something to say about it.
    Too soon.
  • Reply 19 of 23
    Didn't Parler get booted from the app store for inadequate moderation policies? What does it mean when the big twit reverses all those previous moderation decisions, doesn't that effectively end moderation as posted in their TOS, and wouldn't that warrant a ban from the app store until they properly reimplement the policy??

    BTW, the number of ads on this site right now on the home page are disgusting.
    There are no more ads than normal on the homepage.

    If you're referring to the Black Friday deals posts, feel free to not click on them, the same as you shouldn't click on anything else you don't want to read.
    lkrupp said:
    Didn't Parler get booted from the app store for inadequate moderation policies? What does it mean when the big twit reverses all those previous moderation decisions, doesn't that effectively end moderation as posted in their TOS, and wouldn't that warrant a ban from the app store until they properly reimplement the policy??

    BTW, the number of ads on this site right now on the home page are disgusting.

    If they are so disgusting then how much would you be willing to pay for a subscription to AppleInsider? $5/mo $10/mo. Sure we all just hate ads don’t we but ads are what make the world go around. Without ads free OTA broadcast TV would not exist. You must not know much about business and how a blog like AppleInsider pays the bills. Let’s see, there’s the domain service, the bandwidth, the employees, the taxes, the accountants, the lawyers. What did I forget. No, it’s the freetards of this world that are disgusting because they have no clue.
    Apologism and defeatism, nice, and a bit overly sensitive me thinks.
    BREAKING: LOCAL MAN COMPLAINS THAT FREE SERVICE HE HAS RECEIVE FOR YEARS DISPLEASES HIM SOMEWHAT SLIGHTLY ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY. DETAILS AT ELEVEN. 
    williamlondondewme
  • Reply 20 of 23
    JFC_PAJFC_PA Posts: 937member
    As a news source it’s definitely dwindled. 

    We’ll see how this shakes out. 
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