Possible Weapons Grade Plutonium Found

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
I know there have been some false alarms as of late, but jeez.....what if this is true? IMO, this would invalidate ANY real argument that we shouldn't have done this thing.



I can't think of anything creative to call this link



From the artcile:



1. "Capt. John Seegar, a combat engineer commander from Houston, is currently running the operation in Al Tuwaitha. "I've never seen anything like it, ever," he told the Tribune-Review. "How did the world miss all of this? Why couldn't they see what was happening here?"



2. "While officials aren't prepared to call the discovery a "smoking gun," two preliminary tests conducted on the material have indicated that it may be weapons-grade plutonium."



3. "It's amazing," Chief Warrant Officer Darrin Flick, the battalion's nuclear, biological and chemical warfare specialist told the newspaper. "I went to the off-site storage buildings, and the rad detector went off the charts. Then I opened the steel door, and there were all these drums, many, many drums, of highly radioactive material."





***These are not in context but are presented as highlights.
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  • Reply 1 of 130
    der kopfder kopf Posts: 2,275member


    Why not call it: "it's a joke. Don't click this. It'll land you in the fiery pit of hell that is FOX. Please ignore my comment." Or anything along those lines.
  • Reply 2 of 130
    We need a moratorium on the word "Possible".
  • Reply 3 of 130
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,016member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by der Kopf

    Why not call it: "it's a joke. Don't click this. It'll land you in the fiery pit of hell that is FOX. Please ignore my comment." Or anything along those lines.



    How about: "It's not a joke just because it comes from Fox which is at least not a Leftist, defeatist, negative mouthpiece for liberals which have been before, and are again on the WRONG side of national security issues. "
  • Reply 4 of 130
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,016member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ColanderOfDeath

    We need a moratorium on the word "Possible".



    Sorry. I know....but it would be an incredible find....way beyond chemical weapons and such.
  • Reply 5 of 130
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    Wow, that would be a major deal!



    I just hope that something that was made from this stuff isn't floating around out there somewhere, in the hands of some bad, bad people.



  • Reply 6 of 130
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    I call for a moratorium on all WoMD speculation. Only when it is verified can you talk about it.



    Or something.
  • Reply 7 of 130
    der kopfder kopf Posts: 2,275member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by SDW2001

    How about: "It's not a joke just because it comes from Fox which is at least not a Leftist, defeatist, negative mouthpiece for liberals which have been before, and are again on the WRONG side of national security issues. "



    Naw. That doesn't mouth too well. I think that if you'd actually have to pronounce that crap you'd be spitting teeth at the full stop. Sorry 'bout that. Maybe you COULD've gone for "this link leads to the network that internally died in '45, together with its spiritual father, Adolf Hitler"? Just a thought.
  • Reply 8 of 130
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    No one should be surprised that they found radio-active material at a nuclear "power" plant.



    The underground bunker was interesting. Did Blix know about this?
  • Reply 9 of 130
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    5 days folks. give it five days then let's see what's going on.
  • Reply 10 of 130
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by alcimedes

    5 days folks. give it five days then let's see what's going on.



    That's good advice. I saw [I can't think of a funny name] before this one you've posted.



    5 days.
  • Reply 11 of 130
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ColanderOfDeath

    We need a moratorium on the word "Possible".



    Au contraire, we need more emphasis on this word in most if not all our threads, links and dogamtic pontifications in general. Alcimedes is right. Hey, folks, no one should argue that Iraq hid this stuff pretty well, so don't be quick to think we'll find this stuff easily, quickly nor that we won't find this stuff. Oh, I forgot who I was talking to...
  • Reply 12 of 130
    willoughbywilloughby Posts: 1,457member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by tonton

    Your explanations are pure weapons grade balonium.



    Zing of the week!
  • Reply 13 of 130
    randycat99randycat99 Posts: 1,919member
    Perhaps this mystery material isn't good enough to make a genuine nuke, but I'm sure a dirty bomb isn't out of the question for it, and that isn't exactly a happy, fuzzy thought for Saddam to have his hands all over either.
  • Reply 14 of 130
    Quote:

    Au contraire, we need more emphasis on this word in most if not all our threads, links and dogamtic pontifications in general. Alcimedes is right. Hey, folks, no one should argue that Iraq hid this stuff pretty well, so don't be quick to think we'll find this stuff easily, quickly nor that we won't find this stuff. Oh, I forgot who I was talking to...



    Wooooooooooooooooosh



    The implication of my comment was obviously that such questionable claims which can only be termed "possible" ought to be verified more fully before we even start discussing them rather than lobbing them out there ala this thread and the similar Possible WOMD Factory thread rather than any suggestion that we should term speculation as fact.
  • Reply 15 of 130
    tulkastulkas Posts: 3,757member
    I found this part to be very telling

    "The CIA encouraged international inspectors in the fall of 2002 to probe Al Tuwaitha for weapons of mass destruction, and the inspectors came away empty-handed.



    "They went through that site multiple times, but did they go underground? I never heard anything about that," physicist David Albright, a former IAEA Action Team inspector in Iraq from 1992 to 1997, told the Tribune-Review."



    Now, even if it turns out to be a bunch of waste materials from the power plant, how can they excuse that sort of sloppy inspection that they wouldn't search underground? Inspections were working how again?
  • Reply 16 of 130
    sammi josammi jo Posts: 4,634member
    Is this site anywhere near the Osirak nuclear power station that was bombed by Israel back in the 1980s?
  • Reply 17 of 130
    tulkastulkas Posts: 3,757member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by sammi jo

    Is this site anywhere near the Osirak nuclear power station that was bombed by Israel back in the 1980s?



    I believe this and the site bombed in '81 are both at the Al-Tuwaitha nuclear development site.
  • Reply 18 of 130
    haraldharald Posts: 2,152member
    ***CONFIRMED: WEAPONS GRADE PLUTONIUM STRAPPED TO G5!!!!!!!*
  • Reply 19 of 130
    I stumbled across that same story yesterday. My first thought was, "Holy! Moley! ...wait... why isn't this news all over the place? The Pittsburgh Tribune?!? Huh?"



    Does anybody have any idea why this is being reported in only one, non-major newspaper?
  • Reply 20 of 130
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Harald

    ***CONFIRMED: WEAPONS GRADE PLUTONIUM STRAPPED TO G5!!!!!!!*





    I have some inside information. The next PowerBook will be the PowerBook G5 WGP. It gets a little hot but it's a desktop replacement.
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