Inside Apple's Singapore Marina Bay Sands retail store

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  • Reply 21 of 31
    Xedxed Posts: 3,109member
    JP234 said:
    Xed said:
    JP234 said:
    JP234 said:
    Insanely great. But what did this cost me, as an Apple shareholder? Betting my dividends would be higher if Apple spent a teeeeeny bit less on these eclectic and expensive stores that are popping up. Apple customers don't need a "floating dome" to shop for Apple goods and services. A mall store is just fine for me.
    And those brand names stores, including Apple, on Fifth Ave in New York City don't make any profits at all due to extremely high rent. 
    That Apple store in New York city probably makes more money per square foot than any retail store in all of human history. And you said it makes no profit.

    https://www.zdnet.com/finance/report-apples-fifth-avenue-store-tops-350m-in-annual-revenue-updated/
    Well if they pay more rent, property tax and insurance than anywhere else in human history, it's possible. Revenue is not profit.
    OK, boomer. And you think the solution is to go with the failed Dell kiosk in malls and failed Gateway stores in cheap strip malls? How did that work out for them?

    As a shareholder, you could've had that concern when Apple first started building stores in premium locations, but now that it's been over 20 years with Apple both building an anchor store that helps bring in foot traffic to a location that then drives up the desire for other stores to be placed next to an Apple Store (which means they can get much better deals from the leaser) and has the highest revenue per square feet (even beating out Tiffany's soon after launching) you have no ground to stand on and complain about the fucking share pice.

    How about Apple stops doing dividends since that affects the share price, too?
    I love the dividends. We don't buy ANY stocks that don't pay them. At this point, our pensions & SoSec pay all our living expenses, and the dividends in our IRA's are reinvested in more shares. Our non-retirement dividends pay for our new cars, dining, entertainment and Apple toys. Apple is hoarding way too much of my cash ($50 Billion as of 2022), and I'd like some of that back if they're not going to invest it in something other than floating domes.

    Being a Boomer isn't all bad. Zero debt, plenty of free time with no need to work, still in good health with all our teeth, brand new Volvos every 5 years or so. How you doing, Xer?
    So you're fine with stealing from the stock value for your dividends that in no way increases the share price, but you're not fine with using Apple's branding to create more revenue and profit from having physical anchor stores in high traffic areas that have added to the share price and is probably the biggest contributor to switchers to the Apple brand for more than 2 decades? Well that makes perfect sense. /s

    PS: Your cash? Wow! How much of an entitled prick do you have to be to claim that Apple's success in business is hoarding your cash? If you don't like Apple's business model then sell your stock and invest elsewhere.
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  • Reply 22 of 31
    JFC_PAjfc_pa Posts: 964member
    Apple can build all the funky, attention grabbing architecture it wants from the perspective of this cost basis of $0.53 per share holder. Okay, maybe not another spaceship,,,,

    but I’m open to discussion even there. 😎
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  • Reply 23 of 31
    Xedxed Posts: 3,109member
    JP234 said:
    Xed said:
    JP234 said:
    Xed said:
    JP234 said:
    JP234 said:
    Insanely great. But what did this cost me, as an Apple shareholder? Betting my dividends would be higher if Apple spent a teeeeeny bit less on these eclectic and expensive stores that are popping up. Apple customers don't need a "floating dome" to shop for Apple goods and services. A mall store is just fine for me.
    And those brand names stores, including Apple, on Fifth Ave in New York City don't make any profits at all due to extremely high rent. 
    That Apple store in New York city probably makes more money per square foot than any retail store in all of human history. And you said it makes no profit.

    https://www.zdnet.com/finance/report-apples-fifth-avenue-store-tops-350m-in-annual-revenue-updated/
    Well if they pay more rent, property tax and insurance than anywhere else in human history, it's possible. Revenue is not profit.
    OK, boomer. And you think the solution is to go with the failed Dell kiosk in malls and failed Gateway stores in cheap strip malls? How did that work out for them?

    As a shareholder, you could've had that concern when Apple first started building stores in premium locations, but now that it's been over 20 years with Apple both building an anchor store that helps bring in foot traffic to a location that then drives up the desire for other stores to be placed next to an Apple Store (which means they can get much better deals from the leaser) and has the highest revenue per square feet (even beating out Tiffany's soon after launching) you have no ground to stand on and complain about the fucking share pice.

    How about Apple stops doing dividends since that affects the share price, too?
    I love the dividends. We don't buy ANY stocks that don't pay them. At this point, our pensions & SoSec pay all our living expenses, and the dividends in our IRA's are reinvested in more shares. Our non-retirement dividends pay for our new cars, dining, entertainment and Apple toys. Apple is hoarding way too much of my cash ($50 Billion as of 2022), and I'd like some of that back if they're not going to invest it in something other than floating domes.

    Being a Boomer isn't all bad. Zero debt, plenty of free time with no need to work, still in good health with all our teeth, brand new Volvos every 5 years or so. How you doing, Xer?
    So you're fine with stealing from the stock value for your dividends that in no way increases the share price, but you're not fine with using Apple's branding to create more revenue and profit from having physical anchor stores in high traffic areas that have added to the share price and is probably the biggest contributor to switchers to the Apple brand for more than 2 decades? Well that makes perfect sense. /s

    PS: Your cash? Wow! How much of an entitled prick do you have to be to claim that Apple's success in business is hoarding your cash? If you don't like Apple's business model then sell your stock and invest elsewhere.
    Let me just inform you who owns Apple Corp.: Me. As an owner, yes I am entitled to ask Apple to return my share of that cash to me, if they're just hoarding it, not using it for R&D, expansion or dividends. I can ask for anything I want. If you're a shareholder, so can you. Agreed?
    That's the first legitimate thing you've written.
    edited January 2023
    JP234
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  • Reply 24 of 31
    JP234 said:
    Insanely great. But what did this cost me, as an Apple shareholder? Betting my dividends would be higher if Apple spent a teeeeeny bit less on these eclectic and expensive stores that are popping up. Apple customers don't need a "floating dome" to shop for Apple goods and services. A mall store is just fine for me.
    LOL 

    someone needs to get laid
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  • Reply 25 of 31
    aijwsaijws Posts: 19member
    Boomer appears be my age and I too delivered the Chicago Papers (in Michigan) when I was young. 

    Stocks go Up and Down. That’s where you make your money. If you really wanted to make money off Apple, you should have (maybe you did) bought Apple when it was at $10 a Share. 

    I had a Chance, but decided not to (and you can all thank me) as I bought Commodore, which made the Amiga. As you may know, Commodore was scammed by the higher-ups and went Bankrupt.

    The reason I didn't buy Apple is, I didn’t want to Jinx and Bankrupt my only other alternative to Windows.  And, at the time, Apple was teetering on the Brink too!  So, your Welcome!  I sacrificed Millions so you all could have an Insanely Great Computer and other Products. No Dividend needed. The only reason for Stock in the First Place, in Silicon Valley, is to entice Workers (Engineers and Managers) to Join the Company. 

    As far as the Sphere goes, it doesn’t look like a True Sphere to me. It has several Latitudes of Flat Curved Panels. The Ground Floor seems to imitate Apple Park with its Curved Glass and Sun Shades, but the Upper Panels look like they cheapened-out.  There was a chance to do some really Innovative Vertically and Horizontally Compound Curved Panels for a Seamless (from a Distance) True Sphere that would have been on Par in Design and Construction with the Space Ship in Cupertino!    
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  • Reply 26 of 31
    sunman42sunman42 Posts: 332member
    foljs said:
    JP234 said:
    JP234 said:
    Insanely great. But what did this cost me, as an Apple shareholder? Betting my dividends would be higher if Apple spent a teeeeeny bit less on these eclectic and expensive stores that are popping up. Apple customers don't need a "floating dome" to shop for Apple goods and services. A mall store is just fine for me.

    Comments like this remind me of why our world is so messed up. Humans are selfish, and not out of survival like the rest of nature.

    So how is Apple's hard work at padding your pockets bringing value into your life? Do you drive an expensive car or a junker, just to be practical? Do you own a large screen TV or just read a book at night?

    It goes both ways. Apple's investment in the "Apple experience" is why sales remain strong.
    Actually, my wife and I drive Volvos. A 2013 S60 and a 2022 XC40, both Platinum trim, paid for in cash. Between our Apple, Microsoft, two utility and 5 oil company stocks, the dividends throw off enough cash to buy a new one (about $45-$50K each) every two years. My 2013 has only 28,000 garage kept miles on it, so I'm keeping it, even though I'd like a new one. Maybe if Apple paid me a special dividend or raised the dividend, I'd get a new 2023, even though my '13 is near mint. But I'm a lifelong gearhead, so cars are near the top of my spending priorities.

    Our TV is only 43." And I read lots of books, too, mostly from the library. We have no debt; not cars, not mortgage, not credit card.

    To put it in terms no millennial will ever understand, but every Boomer will, "You can't spend or borrow your way to prosperity."
    Hahahaha, that's rich coming from Boomers that got their prosperity through greed and from taking for themselves the resources for the following generations, piling up externalities, and cutting down all the ladders of support they used to get where they are for extra profit - so selfish that they behaved as if there would be no future after them!

    Boomers literaly spend all the country's resources they were given and borrowred against the future of the country and of their children!

    ----

    I think you're blaming all Boomers for what an incredibly tiny bit wealthy fraction of the Boomer generation has done — and what their parents and grandparents did before them. It didn't start with the Boomers, and it gives no signs of ending with the Boomers.
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  • Reply 27 of 31
    I popped in here during the pandemic when my ship was stuck in port Singapore. My inner Apple geek just had to see it! The Marina Bay Mall is chock full of super high end luxury brands so I can definitely say that this particular Apple Store surely fits in with the local aesthetic! It was quite a site to see! Although I later ended up grabbing my iPad mini at the more conventional store on Orchard Road that has been there for a bit. They re-opened the Apple Store in Aventura, FL last year and that was remodeled into something similar in that you enter through a narrow walkway into a massive all glass cube and then ride huge escalators down into the main store floor, all the while in between the escalators are stadium seating in front of a tremendous OLED array that is used to advertising and teaching how-to classes as well. Pretty cool stuff!
    ravnorodomdewme
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  • Reply 28 of 31
    Xedxed Posts: 3,109member
    JP234 said:
    JFC_PA said:
    Apple can build all the funky, attention grabbing architecture it wants from the perspective of this cost basis of $0.53 per share holder. Okay, maybe not another spaceship,,,,

    but I’m open to discussion even there. 😎
    NO SPACESHIPS! Except on "For All Mankind."
    Talk about a huge expense from Apple without evidence that it turns a profit for Apple. That's an 8-digit budget per episode. But, hey, it's something you want to watch v a store in a county you don't want to travel to so it's fine. 🤦‍♂️
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  • Reply 29 of 31
    omasouomasou Posts: 650member
    JP234 said:
    Insanely great. But what did this cost me, as an Apple shareholder? Betting my dividends would be higher if Apple spent a teeeeeny bit less on these eclectic and expensive stores that are popping up. Apple customers don't need a "floating dome" to shop for Apple goods and services. A mall store is just fine for me.

    Search YouTube for "Apple's Singapore Marina Bay Sands" and you'll find your answer. Free "influencers" marketing.

    Also it becomes a "destination" to see.
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  • Reply 30 of 31
    aijwsaijws Posts: 19member
    JP234 said:
    aijws said:
    Boomer appears be my age and I too delivered the Chicago Papers (in Michigan) when I was young. 

    Stocks go Up and Down. That’s where you make your money. If you really wanted to make money off Apple, you should have (maybe you did) bought Apple when it was at $10 a Share. 

    I had a Chance, but decided not to (and you can all thank me) as I bought Commodore, which made the Amiga. As you may know, Commodore was scammed by the higher-ups and went Bankrupt.

    The reason I didn't buy Apple is, I didn’t want to Jinx and Bankrupt my only other alternative to Windows.  And, at the time, Apple was teetering on the Brink too!  So, your Welcome!  I sacrificed Millions so you all could have an Insanely Great Computer and other Products. No Dividend needed. The only reason for Stock in the First Place, in Silicon Valley, is to entice Workers (Engineers and Managers) to Join the Company. 

    As far as the Sphere goes, it doesn’t look like a True Sphere to me. It has several Latitudes of Flat Curved Panels. The Ground Floor seems to imitate Apple Park with its Curved Glass and Sun Shades, but the Upper Panels look like they cheapened-out.  There was a chance to do some really Innovative Vertically and Horizontally Compound Curved Panels for a Seamless (from a Distance) True Sphere that would have been on Par in Design and Construction with the Space Ship in Cupertino!    
    Well congrats for living so long. I bought Apple Shares when Jobs was rehired as "temporary" CEO. I bought Microsoft even earlier, when I saw a Windows 3 demonstration at the local Elek-Tek store, and thought "this is the future!" Still own both, and with splits, growth and reinvested dividends, I've become more affluent in my declining years than I could have dreamed when I was delivering the papers 7 days a week on my bike (in Chicago in January!). I don't use Windows, but I sure know plenty of people who do!
    Thank You for your Service. 

    Glad you could use your Bike on the Paper Route. With the Snow, it was just easier for me to walk the route from Door Step to Door Step,
    although they didn’t appreciate that in the Summer, trampling their Greens. Amazing how much Snow we lived through back then and now a “Bomb” Cyclone is like Armageddon. Lived in Chicago for a bit and remember walking a few Blocks to the Laundromat and almost having Frost Bite on my thighs with the 60 Below Wind Chill. All because my car was Frozen in Place when the Snow Plows buried it under a mountain of Slush. 

    My main reason for commenting was due to the Architectural Decisions Apple used on the Store. I don’t think Steve Jobs would have approved such a Concept without considering every Minor Detail, and that includes the lack of Precision in the Shape of the Sphere. 

    When he did a Cube, he did a Cube. 

    When he did a Cylinder, he did a Cylinder. 

    If he was going To do a Sphere, he’d do a Sphere. 
    edited January 2023
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