they are both drugs... they just do different things, use 'em if you want, and I guess booze is better (or not thought of as a "drug", even though it is, and it is legal and condoned by many religions) to use
I dont do weed becuase i would like to be able to say when I am older that I didn't do it, and I don't think many people will be able to say that!
I tried it twice. I don't care for it. Oh, and I disagree: Occassional binge drinkers can be much more functional than can daily marijuana users. After a while, daily users look permanently stoned. By comparison, moderate daily drinking can be GOOD for you.
Comparing daily marijuana users to occasional binge drinkers isn't really a fair comparison.
Comparing daily marijuana users to occasional binge drinkers isn't really a fair comparison.
Why? I actually compared both daily drinkers as well. When you say "fair" I'm not really sure what that means. I made the comparison (actually someone else did first). It's not a question of "fair".
Why? I actually compared both daily drinkers as well. When you say "fair" I'm not really sure what that means. I made the comparison (actually someone else did first). It's not a question of "fair".
In that specific example you are comparing regular drug use with infrequent drug abuse. I agree that daily smoking is probably worse the occasional binge drinking, but the levels of abuse you're talking about are not really equivalent
i think that binge drinking is worse than binge [pot] smoking. drinkers have the risk of alcohol poisoning. the lethal dose of marijuana is estimated (based on the heinous murder of lab animals, but thats another story) to be 4000 to 40000 times an average dose, and there have been no cases (ever) of someone getting marijuana poisoning.
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More disturbing are the effects on motivation and social skills. All of the daily users I have known suffer froma lack of motivation and lack of personal responsibility. I have seen two VERY intelligent people acheive literally nothing, mostly due to the fact that all they want to do is smoke.
i dont mean to be impolite or anything, but its possible that the daily users that you know lacked motivation and personal responsablity indepedantly of marijuana. maybe the marijuana lifestyle encourages it; but i can't believe that marijuana causes any lasting or long term side effects [aside from lung problems]. medical evidence seems to contradict that claim.
occasional smoke, like occasional drunk won't kill you (except if you drive while under the effects of it), but regular use of marijuana is bad for memory, and it can be irreversible. One of my patient says that since she use to smoke for years, she has not got any more memory, and she is not able to studie anything now.
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sounds like a convenient excuse to me
unless she really really toked it up hard all the time
I really don't do either anymore (okay, a little beer occasionally), but - given a choice - I'd rather take 2-3 hits off a joint than to drink 6-8 beers.
And I've never encountered a mean, nasty person who's high on pot. Alcohol? Hoo-boy...
I know all types from all backgrounds, incomes, interests, etc. who blaze up on occasion. Some are a bit toward the lowlife end of life's spectrum, while others are as well-off, successful and "yuppie-fied" as you'd ever meet.
You can't stereotype this stuff and those who take part in it, I've learned. I've been shocked to learn of people who smoke who I never would've DREAMED did. Conversely, there have been people I've known that I would've bet my life that they smoke 4 times a day and they don't touch the stuff...or any other drug.
I really don't do either anymore (okay, a little beer occasionally), but - given a choice - I'd rather take 2-3 hits off a joint than to drink 6-8 beers.
And I've never encountered a mean, nasty person who's high on pot. Alcohol? Hoo-boy...
I know all types from all backgrounds, incomes, interests, etc. who blaze up on occasion. Some are a bit toward the lowlife end of life's spectrum, while others are as well-off, successful and "yuppie-fied" as you'd ever meet.
You can't stereotype this stuff and those who take part in it, I've learned. I've been shocked to learn of people who smoke who I never would've DREAMED did. Conversely, there have been people I've known that I would've bet my life that they smoke 4 times a day and they don't touch the stuff...or any other drug.
Very good point. Also, in my experience, it affects everyone differently...
Information provided by the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
Just curious but what if (God-forbid) the "NIDA" were to publish an article claiming marijuana is safe?
All hell would break loose
Although I am not saying pot-smoking is 100% good, take a look at who is doing the testing. The statistics for drunk-driving deaths *cough*might*cough* be different if the tests were sponsored by MADD instead of, oh, Apple? Apple has nothing to do with drunk-driving so it is easier to believe them. (Neutral third-party like thingymajig)
Does anyone notice that Govt. sponsored antidrug TV ads are aimed predominantly at marijuana, rather than the other popular but far more dangerous drugs. There was article in the LA Times yesterday referring to more than 2700 methamphetamine labs which had been busted in Missouri in 2002. Thats at least 7 labs per day in just one state!! If 2700 got busted, I wonder how many are operating? That stuff turns people into maniacs...but the anti-drug emphasis still remains pot. I wonder why?
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they are both drugs... they just do different things, use 'em if you want, and I guess booze is better (or not thought of as a "drug", even though it is, and it is legal and condoned by many religions) to use
I dont do weed becuase i would like to be able to say when I am older that I didn't do it, and I don't think many people will be able to say that!
Originally posted by SDW2001
I tried it twice. I don't care for it. Oh, and I disagree: Occassional binge drinkers can be much more functional than can daily marijuana users. After a while, daily users look permanently stoned. By comparison, moderate daily drinking can be GOOD for you.
Comparing daily marijuana users to occasional binge drinkers isn't really a fair comparison.
Originally posted by ericj551
Comparing daily marijuana users to occasional binge drinkers isn't really a fair comparison.
Why? I actually compared both daily drinkers as well. When you say "fair" I'm not really sure what that means. I made the comparison (actually someone else did first). It's not a question of "fair".
Originally posted by SDW2001
Why? I actually compared both daily drinkers as well. When you say "fair" I'm not really sure what that means. I made the comparison (actually someone else did first). It's not a question of "fair".
In that specific example you are comparing regular drug use with infrequent drug abuse. I agree that daily smoking is probably worse the occasional binge drinking, but the levels of abuse you're talking about are not really equivalent
More disturbing are the effects on motivation and social skills. All of the daily users I have known suffer froma lack of motivation and lack of personal responsibility. I have seen two VERY intelligent people acheive literally nothing, mostly due to the fact that all they want to do is smoke.
i dont mean to be impolite or anything, but its possible that the daily users that you know lacked motivation and personal responsablity indepedantly of marijuana. maybe the marijuana lifestyle encourages it; but i can't believe that marijuana causes any lasting or long term side effects [aside from lung problems]. medical evidence seems to contradict that claim.
Originally posted by Powerdoc
occasional smoke, like occasional drunk won't kill you (except if you drive while under the effects of it), but regular use of marijuana is bad for memory, and it can be irreversible. One of my patient says that since she use to smoke for years, she has not got any more memory, and she is not able to studie anything now.
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sounds like a convenient excuse to me
unless she really really toked it up hard all the time
they seem to be doing just fine.
And I've never encountered a mean, nasty person who's high on pot. Alcohol? Hoo-boy...
I know all types from all backgrounds, incomes, interests, etc. who blaze up on occasion. Some are a bit toward the lowlife end of life's spectrum, while others are as well-off, successful and "yuppie-fied" as you'd ever meet.
You can't stereotype this stuff and those who take part in it, I've learned. I've been shocked to learn of people who smoke who I never would've DREAMED did. Conversely, there have been people I've known that I would've bet my life that they smoke 4 times a day and they don't touch the stuff...or any other drug.
Originally posted by pscates
I really don't do either anymore (okay, a little beer occasionally), but - given a choice - I'd rather take 2-3 hits off a joint than to drink 6-8 beers.
And I've never encountered a mean, nasty person who's high on pot. Alcohol? Hoo-boy...
I know all types from all backgrounds, incomes, interests, etc. who blaze up on occasion. Some are a bit toward the lowlife end of life's spectrum, while others are as well-off, successful and "yuppie-fied" as you'd ever meet.
You can't stereotype this stuff and those who take part in it, I've learned. I've been shocked to learn of people who smoke who I never would've DREAMED did. Conversely, there have been people I've known that I would've bet my life that they smoke 4 times a day and they don't touch the stuff...or any other drug.
Very good point. Also, in my experience, it affects everyone differently...
Originally posted by OSXaddict
[Lots of words and such]
Information provided by the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
Just curious but what if (God-forbid) the "NIDA" were to publish an article claiming marijuana is safe?
All hell would break loose
Although I am not saying pot-smoking is 100% good, take a look at who is doing the testing. The statistics for drunk-driving deaths *cough* might *cough* be different if the tests were sponsored by MADD instead of, oh, Apple? Apple has nothing to do with drunk-driving so it is easier to believe them. (Neutral third-party like thingymajig)
Oh, hi wyntir. Just read your post.8)
It was really gonna be good, but then I got high,
Now I'm just writing crap, but I know why,
because I got high, because I got high
because I got high...
Originally posted by Dylsexic Manupilator
I was gonna write a reply, but then I got high
It was really gonna be good, but then I got high,
Now I'm just writing crap, but I know why,
because I got high, because I got high
because I got high...
Awesome!
Originally posted by Dylsexic Manupilator
I was gonna write a reply, but then I got high
It was really gonna be good, but then I got high,
Now I'm just writing crap, but I know why,
because I got high, because I got high
because I got high...
its probably cause yer dyslexic though . . .
I should know . . .being quite topsy-turvy, vica-versa myself . . .
not high, I mean
In the end, stoned is stoned no matter how you get there (that's why they call it getting F*UCKED up).
I think it may be a question of intentions more than anything.
thanks
Originally posted by Dylsexic Manupilator
I was gonna write a reply, but then I got high
It was really gonna be good, but then I got high,
Now I'm just writing crap, but I know why,
because I got high, because I got high
because I got high...
Kind of was expecting that from Gent