Yes you can't upgrade the RAM to 1.5TB but wasn't it the darkvader said:
Less RAM, no GPU upgrades.
NOT impressed. Honestly not even sure why Apple bothered.
You weren't gonna buy one anyways so who gives a shit if Apple impressed you. They don't need to impress someone who doesn't need such a Mac. They bothered because they needed to get it released. I doubt this is the Mac Pro they actually wanted to release but they needed to get an Apple Silicon Mac Pro released so they released the best option they could for what they had. Once the M3 comes out we'll see the actual Mac Pro they wanted to release, although probably next WWDC now.
NOT impressed. Honestly not even sure why Apple bothered.
No GPU upgrades yet. 2 16 Lane Double wide PCIe 4 slots only need Drivers for GPU cards
If Apple supports a GPU upgrade it will be its own card, not an AMD or NVIDIA based video card. Makes no sense to install a card that makes massive amounts of heat and uses tons of power to go what Apple can achieve with so much less.
It’s so dumb to keep comparing a 2023 product to a 20-9 one as if there is any legit victory there. Sure, it’s great you can max out the Mac Pro for less now. But what sucks is that a new Mac Pro with Intel and Nvidia components from 2023 would beat it in performamce.
The Mac Pro is supposed to be the pinnacle of desktop computing. Not a Mac Studio with more I/o expansion.
It’s really sad. The Mac Pro has been emasculated. If there is so much cost savings, there was definitely room for the expense of an “extreme” version.
NOT impressed. Honestly not even sure why Apple bothered.
No GPU upgrades yet. 2 16 Lane Double wide PCIe 4 slots only need Drivers for GPU cards
If Apple supports a GPU upgrade it will be its own card, not an AMD or NVIDIA based video card. Makes no sense to install a card that makes massive amounts of heat and uses tons of power to go what Apple can achieve with so much less.
So why put an 1400 watt power supply in. Until Apple say what they have coming your just spitting in the wind.
NOT impressed. Honestly not even sure why Apple bothered.
No GPU upgrades yet. 2 16 Lane Double wide PCIe 4 slots only need Drivers for GPU cards
If Apple supports a GPU upgrade it will be its own card, not an AMD or NVIDIA based video card. Makes no sense to install a card that makes massive amounts of heat and uses tons of power to go what Apple can achieve with so much less.
I bet that Apple is either working with AMD or Nvidia (most-likely AMD though as they seem to have favored them more in the past, though they have used both) to make a slew of comparable GPUs to put in the new Mac Pros. The Intel Mac Pros were just too old to be selling anymore that they just had to bring something to market. They definitely have something up their selves, a custom chip, most-likely not without AMD or Nvidia’s help.
For a certain subset of professionals (such as myself), the new Mac Pro is a bargain. There is only an $500 price difference between a Mac Pro and Mac Studio in this apple for apple configuration:
- Mac Pro tricked out with 9TB RAM w/ dual-slot NVME PCI-e card populated with qty (2) 4TB NVME slabs = $7500 + $700 - Mac Studio with 8TB RAM w/ qty (3) TB3 PCI-3 enclosures = $6200 + $1500
In the Pro the NVMEs will be able to run at full speed instead of 2700GB/s. And they can be RAIDed reliably — I no longer trust spreading that kind of RAID across two enclosures any longer.
Cannot wait for mine to arrive!
The new Mac Pro is a bargain, but all those complaining it had lesser specks, I wonder just how many professionals really needed all those specks. Expect the next update to be bigger (most-likely with upgradable GPUs) as they had to come out with something new and with the work put into the Vision Pro, this is probably the best they could do (and for many, this is going to be one fine machine, though for the majority, it’s over kill).
NOT impressed. Honestly not even sure why Apple bothered.
Were you in the market for a new Pro or are you being your typical negative nelly self and just posting shit like always?
Why do people take this so personally? Unless you are a shareholder who gives a hoot what you think? You have no skin in the game. If you don't like the upgrade don't buy it. My wife's Forester has no OEM engine upgrade and no OEM storage upgrade. I mean I have to buy a space case if I want to haul around more stuff. I am not sure why Subaru even bothers and I am not impressed.
Only people with no self-worth pin their existence on what another company sells. Buy what you like and don't worry about if it's the "BEST" or "CHEAPER" than Apple. You know I can buy a C8 for less money than a Bugatti!
I bet that Apple is either working with AMD or Nvidia (most-likely AMD though as they seem to have favored them more in the past, though they have used both) to make a slew of comparable GPUs to put in the new Mac Pros.
If Nvidia GPUs that would immediately make these machines desirable because of CUDA and ray-tracing support.
But I think Apple is playing a longer game since it wants to focus on Metal uptake. Maybe in the 3D world developers will find incentive to optimise Metal performance if an M2 Ultra + AMD combo proves to have exceptional graphical compute power. I think Vision Pro, as an immersive tool for 3D modellers, will contribute to that momentum.
NOT impressed. Honestly not even sure why Apple bothered.
No GPU upgrades yet. 2 16 Lane Double wide PCIe 4 slots only need Drivers for GPU cards
If Apple supports a GPU upgrade it will be its own card, not an AMD or NVIDIA based video card. Makes no sense to install a card that makes massive amounts of heat and uses tons of power to go what Apple can achieve with so much less.
So why put an 1400 watt power supply in. Until Apple say what they have coming your just spitting in the wind.
So it has proper support for any other PCIe cards? Video cards aren't the only cards that draw power.
NOT impressed. Honestly not even sure why Apple bothered.
No GPU upgrades yet. 2 16 Lane Double wide PCIe 4 slots only need Drivers for GPU cards
If Apple supports a GPU upgrade it will be its own card, not an AMD or NVIDIA based video card. Makes no sense to install a card that makes massive amounts of heat and uses tons of power to go what Apple can achieve with so much less.
So why put an 1400 watt power supply in. Until Apple say what they have coming your just spitting in the wind.
So it has proper support for any other PCIe cards? Video cards aren't the only cards that draw power.
You have a strange way of responding. I don't think you can read specs or you didn't look at the video broadcast.
But will we be able to upgrade processor in the future? I’m guessing not.
Those days are long gone! Everything is soldered to the logic board and I don't think Apple creating a socket would work very well with Apple Silicon.
Not that long gone. The current/last Intel MacPro is capable of chip upgrade is it not?
You need to understand the architecture of Apple Silicon. It's a completely different way of doing things with the SoC package designed by Apple. It's absolutely not possible and 99.9% of Apple customers don't really give a shit about whether they can upgrade the CPU, RAM, or even the SSD anyways. I know it's hard for the techies here at AppleInsider to grasp but if it were a real concern the success of the Apple Silicon transition wouldn't be what it is it is today. Yes the last gen Mac Pro you technically could swap out the CPU however most of Apple's Intel products had soldered in CPU's and I doubt anyone buying those really cared to swap out a CPU. The sales of Mac Pro aren't just to anyone, they're multi-million (billion) dollar studios who need real power and purchase the best they can afford for the job they need to use it for. They use it until its not useful to them and then swap it out for newer Mac along with installing the PCIe cards they use to do their job.
NOT impressed. Honestly not even sure why Apple bothered.
No GPU upgrades yet. 2 16 Lane Double wide PCIe 4 slots only need Drivers for GPU cards
If Apple supports a GPU upgrade it will be its own card, not an AMD or NVIDIA based video card. Makes no sense to install a card that makes massive amounts of heat and uses tons of power to go what Apple can achieve with so much less.
So why put an 1400 watt power supply in. Until Apple say what they have coming your just spitting in the wind.
So it has proper support for any other PCIe cards? Video cards aren't the only cards that draw power.
You have a strange way of responding. I don't think you can read specs or you didn't look at the video broadcast.
Not strange at all. I looked an watched and listened to John Ternus give his explanation of the new Mac Pro in a Podcast after the Keynote.
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You weren't gonna buy one anyways so who gives a shit if Apple impressed you. They don't need to impress someone who doesn't need such a Mac. They bothered because they needed to get it released. I doubt this is the Mac Pro they actually wanted to release but they needed to get an Apple Silicon Mac Pro released so they released the best option they could for what they had. Once the M3 comes out we'll see the actual Mac Pro they wanted to release, although probably next WWDC now.
So why put an 1400 watt power supply in. Until Apple say what they have coming your just spitting in the wind.
Only people with no self-worth pin their existence on what another company sells. Buy what you like and don't worry about if it's the "BEST" or "CHEAPER" than Apple. You know I can buy a C8 for less money than a Bugatti!
You have a strange way of responding. I don't think you can read specs or you didn't look at the video broadcast.
Not strange at all. I looked an watched and listened to John Ternus give his explanation of the new Mac Pro in a Podcast after the Keynote.