EU antitrust chief & Apple foe Margrethe Vestager out after 10 years

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Margrethe Vestager has spent a decade leading the European Union's attempts to control Big Tech, including actions Tim Cook described as "total political crap." She won't be doing it any longer.

Margrethe Vestager, Executive Vice-President of the European Commission
Margrethe Vestager, Executive Vice-President of the European Commission



The role of European Commissioner for Competition is a mandate that sees its holder having to be reappointed every five years. Vestager has served two terms, starting in 2014, and over her decade in the role has been a principle figure in the EU's many and varied disputes with Apple.

According to the Financial Times, Vestager will not be nominated for a third term. It's said that this is due to Vestager's Social Liberal party faring poorly in Denmark's 2022 elections.

Speaking in June 2024, though, Vestager said that it was probable that her tumultuous decade in the role would be ending.

"Well, I may sleep for a month or so because this has been 10 years hypercharged," she told CNBC, " but other than that the chances of a new mandate is they're very very very slim so I'm kind of looking forward to a new chapter."

Fittingly, the main point of that CNBC interview concerned Apple, of whom Vestager said she had serious concerns. That might be the last time she would get to say that, but it was far from the first.

Vestager's anti-Apple stance



Margrethe Vestager was the central figure behind the EU's legal case against both Apple and Ireland. In 2016, the European Commission handed down its biggest penalty to that date, ordering Apple to pay $14.5 billion in what it said were back taxes.

This is the ruling that Apple CEO Tim Cook took the unusual step of publicly criticising. He didn't mess around, either, directly calling it "total political crap," and saying it was an anti-US measure.

It's certainly true that Apple benefits financially from the agreement it has with Ireland's government. And it's also true that the company's headquarters in Cork, Ireland, oversee the finances of Apple worldwide.

However, the key word there was "agreement." Apple often says that it pays the full tax it is required to in every country where it operates, but it doesn't tend to mention how much that is, or what good a deal it gets from countries like Ireland.

According to the European Commission, Apple paid 1% in tax in 2003, and 0.005% in 2014. The EU declared this illegal, and while investigations had begun before Vestager's term began, it was she who got to announce the findings.

"Ireland granted illegal tax benefits to Apple," she said in 2016, "which enabled it to pay substantially less tax than other businesses over many years."

Margrethe Vestager (left) and Tim Cook at Apple Park (Souce: Margrethe Vestager)
Margrethe Vestager (left) and Tim Cook at Apple Park (Souce: Margrethe Vestager)



Ireland disagreed with her stance then, and still does now.

The $14.5 billion fine was large even for Apple at that time, and Apple has paid it -- but only into an escrow account. While the legal case with both Apple and Ireland against the EU continues over so many years and very many rulings, the money is still waiting untouched.

If the business of Irish taxation was meant to show that the EU would and could come down hard on Big Tech firms abusing their market dominance, the sheer length of legal argument means it rather lost its impact.

The latest in the saga saw the EU Advocate General saying in November 2023 that, actually, the trial should just start over. Consequently, Vestager will no longer be in office if this case is ever finally concluded.

Whereas she saw the Digital Markets Act (DMA) through to fruition, with it coming into law in March 2024.

Digital Markets Act and Apple



The DMA is a series of laws that are designed to protect users from the excesses of Big Tech, and especially when such companies exploit their market dominance. It was specifically created, though, in order to target firms such as Apple.

It's part of how Apple was forced to change the iPhone from a Lightning charger to a USB-C one. There are absolutely clear benefits to users of this, but not in the terms the EU stated of reducing e-waste.

This element of forcing changes demonstrated the EU's ability to get laws onto the books where most countries and territories have not. But it also demonstrated short-sightedness, as it appears that the law will force firms to stay with USB-C even when something better comes along.

Opening up the App Store



Again, other countries have talked about requiring Apple to allow third-party alternatives to the iOS App Store -- but only Europe has done it. Within the EU, iPhone and iPad users have to be able to use alternatives to just about anything Apple offers, from browsers to digital wallets.

Under Vestager's leadership, the EU's position appears to be that every company that wants to, should have the same access to iPhone technology as Apple does. It appears to see the iPhone as a public utility.

This could be precisely why Apple is not releasing Apple Intelligence in Europe, even as it does the rest of the world. Apple says it is "committed to collaborating," with the EC, in order to find a solution.

While Apple paints this as being cautious where the law isn't clear, it was Margrethe Vestager who blasted it for the decision.

"I think that is the most sort of stunning, open declaration that they know 100% that this is another way of disabling competition," she said, "where they have a stronghold already."

Under Vestager, the EU also tends to favor companies based in its own union, most notably Spotify. It is because of a complaint by Spotify, for instance, that the EU fined Apple $2 billion, over allegedly exploiting its dominance on order to gain more listeners.

Only, at the time of its complaint, Spotify was about five times more popular than Apple Music. Consequently, the claim that Apple was harming users by not letting Spotify tell them about special offers falls a little flat.

Vestager speaks often of levelling the playing field for companies, and also of how government "should never forget that the taxpayers who pay this... expect that things are done wisely."

Nonetheless, Vestager backed the EU-based Spotify against Apple despite evidence showing that far from dominating its field, Apple Music was much smaller than its accuser. And where Apple was saying publicly that it wanted guidance on how to bring Apple Intelligence to the EU under DMA laws, Vestager lambasted the company.

So she has a mixed track record, having made what seem to be unreasonable conclusions about Apple, and yet also being the first to make the firm open up its App Store.

Vestager is not the only proponent of the DMA and enforcing fines against any breach of those laws. In fact, as the DMA was coming into full effect, she took an unpaid leave of absence to work on getting elected to the presidency of the European Investment Bank.



She failed to be elected to that, instead pulling out in December 2023. At the time, she tweeted that she was then returning to her post overseeing the EU's DMA.

Even then, though, she knew that her term limit would be coming up and that it was unlikely she would get to continue in the role. With her exit all but hanging over her, Vestager seemed to step out into public life more often, and doing so specifically to criticise Apple.

It's not known yet who will replace her. What is known is that despite fulfilling her term, Vestager's failure to secure the job once more is being taken as a failing.

"Vestager is out," a former minister is reported to have said. "Nobody owes her anything."



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  • Reply 1 of 36
    Now the question is, will the next person be better? And beneficial for Apple
    timpetuswatto_cobrazeus4239secondkox2
  • Reply 2 of 36
    ssfe11ssfe11 Posts: 78member
    What a mess she created. She needed to be fired. 
    AnObservertimpetusForumPostiOS_Guy80williamlondonFidonet127watto_cobra9secondkox2
  • Reply 3 of 36
    nubusnubus Posts: 568member
    Now the question is, will the next person be better? And beneficial for Apple
    Likely not. Vestager recently tried to hire an American for a senior position but got blocked by France. Her focus was on antitrust to keep the market open and privacy protection. The replacement will be forced to deliver protectionism and go further.
    danoxronnAlex1Nspheric9secondkox2
  • Reply 4 of 36
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,229member
    nubus said:
    Now the question is, will the next person be better? And beneficial for Apple
    Likely not. Vestager recently tried to hire an American for a senior position but got blocked by France. Her focus was on antitrust to keep the market open and privacy protection. The replacement will be forced to deliver protectionism and go further.
    Too bad about France Mistral is in the top 10 of AI models today but I think they the French will burn down even their own countryman’s creations in spite.
    ronnwatto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 36
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,555member
    danox said:
    nubus said:
    Now the question is, will the next person be better? And beneficial for Apple
    Likely not. Vestager recently tried to hire an American for a senior position but got blocked by France. Her focus was on antitrust to keep the market open and privacy protection. The replacement will be forced to deliver protectionism and go further.
    Too bad about France Mistral is in the top 10 of AI models today but I think they the French will burn down even their own countryman’s creations in spite.
    Mistral became a pariah in some circles when they agreed to partner with Microsoft earlier this year.

    The issue any company not American or Chinese will have is that the private investment money needed to compete with those AI models isn't there. But accepting money from American Big Tech isn't acceptable to many of them either. Rock meet Hard Place. 
    edited August 30 ronnAlex1Nrob53
  • Reply 6 of 36
    bulk001bulk001 Posts: 779member
    As we won’t take on big tech here in the U.S. it is good to see that the EU has taken the lead to do so. As I do with my computer, I should have full control to download applications to my phone without mother hen Cook. Like any business, it is to protect their revenue stream from selling the apps from their store. I am guessing if it was Google or Meta or Microsoft, many here would be in full support of her actions but feel the need to defend the poor struggling startup, Apple, running out of someone’s garage and is just so unfairly being crushed by the EU. 
    nubuswilliamlondon9secondkox2michelb76
  • Reply 7 of 36
    Forcing Apple to allow 3rd party stores was always one of the dumbest ideas that the EU had. Mobile apps were already far cheaper on average than any other computing platform and the price difference between Android (open!) and iOS (closed!) were virtually non-existent. Those facts alone seriously undermine the idea that the App Store model was abusive. The reality is that app developers wanted to release apps on iOS because the iPhone proved to be very popular with consumers and had a large user base. Contrast this with another piece of Apple hardware that is also closed and also has a single App Store: Apple Vision Pro. Apple obviously doesn't have the power to force app developers to support the platform. Developers are looking at the relatively small install base for the first year product and choosing to "wait and see" before committing $ and development time.
    edited August 30 timpetusthtForumPostwilliamlondonwatto_cobraAlex1Nssfe112morrow9secondkox2
  • Reply 8 of 36
    I will forever be grateful to the Europeans for forcing Apple to adopt USB-C. But the idea that Apple shouldn't be compensated for developing a platform that allows thousands of developers to make a living, or that the "fair" amount of compensation should be decided by developers seems ridiculous to me. Apple is not a charity, nor do they exist to be the world's R&D department. Much of what the Europeans are doing feels like protectionism.

    That said, there are plenty of examples where Apple disadvantages its own customers and stifles innovation—like forcing all browsers to use the same engine. This is where government action should focus. 
    williamlondonwatto_cobrarob539secondkox2
  • Reply 9 of 36
    I sense a bit of an ‘anti-Margrethe‘ sentiment in the article. Juvenile, “she’s finally gone” sentiment. 

    She did all the things that needed to happen and I’m confident many of her actions will at some point become normal in the US as well. 
    sphericgodofbiscuitssfmuthuk_vanalingamwilliamlondonLettuceNotSoMuchtechrider9secondkox2michelb76
  • Reply 10 of 36

    Forcing Apple to allow 3rd party stores was always one of the dumbest ideas that the EU had. Mobile apps were already far cheaper on average than any other computing platform and the price difference between Android (open!) and iOS (closed!) were virtually non-existent. Those facts alone seriously undermine the idea that the App Store model was abusive. The reality is that app developers wanted to release apps on iOS because the iPhone proved to be very popular with consumers and had a large user base. Contrast this with another piece of Apple hardware that is also closed and also has a single App Store: Apple Vision Pro. Apple obviously doesn't have the power to force app developers to support the platform. Developers are looking at the relatively small install base for the first year product and choosing to "wait and see" before committing $ and development time.
    It is not just about app pricing and the apps being the same on both platforms.

    It’s about two companies that are essentially in control over the entire industry and their App Store model representing the entire app market.
    That is dangerous especially when mobile phones are essentially a commodity with apps created by governments and organizations alike. 

    As more countries are following EU’s lead, it’ll become harder for the US not to follow suit, despite its corruption in politics by commercial entities.
    avon b7watto_cobragatorguymuthuk_vanalingamwilliamlondon9secondkox2
  • Reply 11 of 36
    tlinn said:
    I will forever be grateful to the Europeans for forcing Apple to adopt USB-C. But the idea that Apple shouldn't be compensated for developing a platform that allows thousands of developers to make a living, or that the "fair" amount of compensation should be decided by developers seems ridiculous to me. Apple is not a charity, nor do they exist to be the world's R&D department. Much of what the Europeans are doing feels like protectionism.

    That said, there are plenty of examples where Apple disadvantages its own customers and stifles innovation—like forcing all browsers to use the same engine. This is where government action should focus. 
    There is no evidence that EU forced Apple to go USB-C as Apple was already heading there. Yes they put it into law, but the market was already forcing Apple to go USB-C. Due to timing, EU got the credit. 
    Alex1Ngatorguythtzeus423stompyLettuce9secondkox2
  • Reply 12 of 36
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,653member
    ssfe11 said:
    What a mess she created. She needed to be fired. 
    She wasn’t "fired". She was nominated for the position by the ruling coalition of her home country, and when the outcome of the latest elections in Denmark changed that coalition, a different party got to nominate a commissioner. 

    Representative democracy in action. This is how it works. 
    gatorguyronnmuthuk_vanalingamwilliamlondonLettuceNotSoMuchtechrider9secondkox2CheeseFreezemichelb76
  • Reply 13 of 36
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,653member

    tlinn said:
    I will forever be grateful to the Europeans for forcing Apple to adopt USB-C. But the idea that Apple shouldn't be compensated for developing a platform that allows thousands of developers to make a living, or that the "fair" amount of compensation should be decided by developers seems ridiculous to me. Apple is not a charity, nor do they exist to be the world's R&D department. Much of what the Europeans are doing feels like protectionism.

    That said, there are plenty of examples where Apple disadvantages its own customers and stifles innovation—like forcing all browsers to use the same engine. This is where government action should focus. 
    There is no evidence that EU forced Apple to go USB-C as Apple was already heading there. Yes they put it into law, but the market was already forcing Apple to go USB-C. Due to timing, EU got the credit. 
    These statements are so telling: you all think the EU is all about Apple. Fact is, the EU doesn’t give a SHIT about Apple: the USB-C standardisation was about getting EVERYBODY to unify their charging. Apple was already headed there because they aren’t stupid and knew it was coming (and they probably talk regularly with the Commission), having sat out the horrific micro-USB suggestion. 

    The EU rightfully gets the credit for kicking everybody into supporting a single standard — they’d already been working with various manufacturers for a decade before Apple finally switched their iPhones, as well. 
    ronnmuthuk_vanalingamwilliamlondon9secondkox2CheeseFreeze
  • Reply 14 of 36
    rob53rob53 Posts: 3,282member
    spheric said:

    tlinn said:
    I will forever be grateful to the Europeans for forcing Apple to adopt USB-C. But the idea that Apple shouldn't be compensated for developing a platform that allows thousands of developers to make a living, or that the "fair" amount of compensation should be decided by developers seems ridiculous to me. Apple is not a charity, nor do they exist to be the world's R&D department. Much of what the Europeans are doing feels like protectionism.

    That said, there are plenty of examples where Apple disadvantages its own customers and stifles innovation—like forcing all browsers to use the same engine. This is where government action should focus. 
    There is no evidence that EU forced Apple to go USB-C as Apple was already heading there. Yes they put it into law, but the market was already forcing Apple to go USB-C. Due to timing, EU got the credit. 
    These statements are so telling: you all think the EU is all about Apple. Fact is, the EU doesn’t give a SHIT about Apple: the USB-C standardisation was about getting EVERYBODY to unify their charging. Apple was already headed there because they aren’t stupid and knew it was coming (and they probably talk regularly with the Commission), having sat out the horrific micro-USB suggestion. 

    The EU rightfully gets the credit for kicking everybody into supporting a single standard — they’d already been working with various manufacturers for a decade before Apple finally switched their iPhones, as well. 
    Why does everybody have to unify their charging standard? Europe has all kinds of electrical "standards" so why don't they adopt America's standard? There's no way America will adopt any non-American electrical standard. This is the EU having a double standard. They want to keep their standard and force others to adopt theirs even if it's inferior to others. How many electronic products are actually developed by the EU? Not anywhere near the number developed in the USA yet the EU continues to force American companies to do the stupid things the EU demands they do. 
    zeus423williamlondon9secondkox2
  • Reply 15 of 36
    spheric said:

    tlinn said:
    I will forever be grateful to the Europeans for forcing Apple to adopt USB-C. But the idea that Apple shouldn't be compensated for developing a platform that allows thousands of developers to make a living, or that the "fair" amount of compensation should be decided by developers seems ridiculous to me. Apple is not a charity, nor do they exist to be the world's R&D department. Much of what the Europeans are doing feels like protectionism.

    That said, there are plenty of examples where Apple disadvantages its own customers and stifles innovation—like forcing all browsers to use the same engine. This is where government action should focus. 
    There is no evidence that EU forced Apple to go USB-C as Apple was already heading there. Yes they put it into law, but the market was already forcing Apple to go USB-C. Due to timing, EU got the credit. 
    These statements are so telling: you all think the EU is all about Apple. Fact is, the EU doesn’t give a SHIT about Apple: the USB-C standardisation was about getting EVERYBODY to unify their charging. Apple was already headed there because they aren’t stupid and knew it was coming (and they probably talk regularly with the Commission), having sat out the horrific micro-USB suggestion. 

    The EU rightfully gets the credit for kicking everybody into supporting a single standard — they’d already been working with various manufacturers for a decade before Apple finally switched their iPhones, as well. 
    It is so telling you assumed I said or implied it was all about Apple. This is rumor site about Apple ok? IE naturally Apple centric. EU did in fact put it in to law about forcing phones to be USB-C. 
    williamlondon
  • Reply 16 of 36
    I hope that the commisioner who takes over from  Margrethe Vestager, is just as tuff, or even tuffer, multinationals needs to be kept on a short leash. I don't like Vestager's political positions and vould never vote for her or her party here in Denmark, but I agree wholeheartedly in that multinationals have to pay taxes where they earn the money, just like you and me, not where their greed lets them get away cheapest, like the deal between Ireland (which I blame as much as Apple) and Apple.
    I positively hate "the opening up" of iOS/iPad OS - if people want an "open" system, they can buy Android and be as unsecure ("open") as they like.
    ronnsphericwilliamlondonNotSoMuch
  • Reply 17 of 36
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,955member
    rob53 said:
    spheric said:

    tlinn said:
    I will forever be grateful to the Europeans for forcing Apple to adopt USB-C. But the idea that Apple shouldn't be compensated for developing a platform that allows thousands of developers to make a living, or that the "fair" amount of compensation should be decided by developers seems ridiculous to me. Apple is not a charity, nor do they exist to be the world's R&D department. Much of what the Europeans are doing feels like protectionism.

    That said, there are plenty of examples where Apple disadvantages its own customers and stifles innovation—like forcing all browsers to use the same engine. This is where government action should focus. 
    There is no evidence that EU forced Apple to go USB-C as Apple was already heading there. Yes they put it into law, but the market was already forcing Apple to go USB-C. Due to timing, EU got the credit. 
    These statements are so telling: you all think the EU is all about Apple. Fact is, the EU doesn’t give a SHIT about Apple: the USB-C standardisation was about getting EVERYBODY to unify their charging. Apple was already headed there because they aren’t stupid and knew it was coming (and they probably talk regularly with the Commission), having sat out the horrific micro-USB suggestion. 

    The EU rightfully gets the credit for kicking everybody into supporting a single standard — they’d already been working with various manufacturers for a decade before Apple finally switched their iPhones, as well. 
    Why does everybody have to unify their charging standard? Europe has all kinds of electrical "standards" so why don't they adopt America's standard? There's no way America will adopt any non-American electrical standard. This is the EU having a double standard. They want to keep their standard and force others to adopt theirs even if it's inferior to others. How many electronic products are actually developed by the EU? Not anywhere near the number developed in the USA yet the EU continues to force American companies to do the stupid things the EU demands they do. 
    "Why does everyone have to unify their charging standards?" 

    Please read the impact assessments and the preamble to the legislation because you obviously haven't done that. The answer to your question is there. 

    'Standardisation' is a common goal in many fields but there are always exceptions, even within standards. The more ingrained a national standard, the harder it is to standardise across a bloc. That is why, in the case of electrical equipment we have power supplies that cover a range of options.

    The common charger initiative was relatively easy to implement in that sense (but there are exceptions there too) because of the fast moving pace of that industry, which is not limited to mobile phones by the way and does allow for better options down the line. The difference will be that the changes are implemented uniformly across industry.

    No one is asking America to adopt non-American standards. America can do as it pleases and EU companies have to comply. Just like US companies (and EU companies) have to comply with EU regulations if they want to do business here. 
    VictorMortimermuthuk_vanalingamsphericNotSoMuchCheeseFreeze
  • Reply 18 of 36
    Now the question is, will the next person be better? And beneficial for Apple

    Those two things aren't necessarily, or likely, the same thing.  Or a single thing.
    blastdoorgatorguy
  • Reply 19 of 36
    She did her job well and fearlessly.  Will be tough to follow up.
    VictorMortimersphericwilliamlondon9secondkox2Sigsgaardmichelb76
  • Reply 20 of 36
    She's done a great job!

    Let's hope her replacement can keep up the pressure on Apple.
    spheric9secondkox2
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