Apple HR exodus continues with recruitment exec departure

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Barely two days after Apple's Chief People Officer is reportedly exiting the company, a top recruitment executive is also preparing to depart to investment firm.

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Apple's top recruitment executive, VP Sjoerd Gehring, is going to leave the iPhone maker in favor of a position at the investment firm Citadel, a report claims. The alleged departure is the second major human resources-related departure at Apple in the space of a week.

People familiar with the matter told Bloomberg that Gehring will exit Apple in November. He will be replacing Matt Jahansouz at Citadel, who exited in September.

While the news hasn't been shared by Apple yet, Citadel COO Gerald Beeson reportedly told employees that it was happening. "Sjoerd will spearhead our efforts to attract top candidates from around the world and help them build extraordinary careers at Citadel matching their merit and ambition," said Beeson in a letter.

Gehring leaves Apple after over six years in the role, joining the company in November 2018. Previously he was involved in recruitment for Johnson & Johnson, as well as Accenture.

The new departure appears not long after another high-profile chief's days were reportedly numbered.

On Wednesday, it was reported that Apple's Chief People Officer Carol Surface, Gehring's boss, was leaving her role after less than two years in the position.



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  • Reply 1 of 26
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,144member
    From the sound of it the Chief People Officer position was being folded back into the department it came from. This person would have been first in line to get the spot. But with it gone, not so much. Actually maybe that’s why Surface left too, in response to the reorganization and the position going away. 
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  • Reply 2 of 26
    Maybe they are dewokefying their HR like many big ones are doing.
    williamlondonbabynewyear9secondkox2elijahgJanNLwatto_cobragrandact73
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  • Reply 3 of 26
    Maybe they are dewokefying their HR like many big ones are doing.
    Oh yes, that woketey wokey woke demon plaguing the planet. Oh good god, please stop with this nonsense, I love all your tech comments but these are just crazy.
    DAalsethilarynxauxiodewme9secondkox2blastdoorbyronlmuthuk_vanalingambeowulfschmidtronn
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  • Reply 4 of 26
    Maybe they are dewokefying their HR like many big ones are doing.
    Yes, they are also de-unicorn-ing and de-fire-breathing-dragon-ing as well, just as many big ones are doing in order to interject solid asleep-at-the-wheel-ifying and yellow-star-post-ification into the corporate structure.

    Jeebus. 

    Which "many big ones" BTW?
    dewme9secondkox2gatorguyblastdoorwilliamlondonronnwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 5 of 26
    Maybe they are dewokefying their HR like many big ones are doing.

    Agreed... Other companies both BIG and small are getting rid of the DEI initiative and its upper echelon hires and supporters and hiring the right people for the job.
    9secondkox2elijahgwilliamlondonwatto_cobragrandact73
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  • Reply 6 of 26
    Well... when you can't cut it at the big boy firm, you go to somewhere less demanding.
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 7 of 26
    Maybe they are dewokefying their HR like many big ones are doing.
    Oh yes, that woketey wokey woke demon plaguing the planet. Oh good god, please stop with this nonsense, I love all your tech comments but these are just crazy.
    Should have stopped there and would have been credible. The rest is just cringe.
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  • Reply 8 of 26
    Maybe they are dewokefying their HR like many big ones are doing.
    Yeah. It was an "interesting" and irritating experiment. Everything suffered. Glad that the nonsense is being sifted through now that corporate leaders have found their bakcbones again. Amazon enforcing RTO or "good luck at your next job" is a great sign too. 
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  • Reply 9 of 26
    But can we all just admire that stunning image of Apple Park for a moment? My goodness what a sight, So glad one of the worlds most successful companies - an American company at that - had a Steve Jobs and Jony Ive to dream up such a perfect thing. Not a crazy wild looking thing like many Saudi projects. Just beautifully simple and simply beautiful. 
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  • Reply 10 of 26
    elijahgelijahg Posts: 2,876member
    Is two people leaving really an "exodus"?
    avon b7blastdoorbyronl9secondkox2ronnwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 11 of 26
    Maybe they are dewokefying their HR like many big ones are doing.

    Agreed... Other companies both BIG and small are getting rid of the DEI initiative and its upper echelon hires and supporters and hiring the right people for the job.
    You don't like woke. You like vanilla woke. Gotcha. 
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  • Reply 12 of 26
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,674member
    elijahg said:
    Is two people leaving really an "exodus"?
    Ha ha -- yeah, like when Moses and one other guy left Egypt :-) 
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  • Reply 13 of 26
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,674member
    I guess we are unlikely to ever know if there's an interesting story behind the departure of these HR people. 

    But it sure does make me think about the HR people at my firm. I liked the head of HR when I started -- he viewed his job as supporting billable employees in doing their jobs the best they could. But everyone after him has been about trying to get us to follow some agenda they have. And I'm not talking (just) about the DEI thing -- I mean any personal agenda or pet theory they might have. 

    With respect to DEI specifically, I find that a lot of DEI proponents in HR (not necessarily more generally) don't appear to know the definition of equity. It's not about treating everyone the same, and it's not about saying "you can't do that because then we'd have to let everyone do that." But it's very convenient for a lazy HR person to interpret it that way -- to use it as an excuse to treat people as widgets (which was what they wanted to do long before DEI came along). 
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  • Reply 14 of 26
    elijahg said:
    Is two people leaving really an "exodus"?
    One of them was dressed up as Moses.
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  • Reply 15 of 26
    Maybe they are dewokefying their HR like many big ones are doing.

    Agreed... Other companies both BIG and small are getting rid of the DEI initiative and its upper echelon hires and supporters and hiring the right people for the job.
    Just like all the bigots are saying, fire all the darkies because they are not ever going to be equal to lily white supremists. Nice to out yourself so early after joining.

    JFC, AI, is this the kind of member and comment you want on your forums?


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  • Reply 16 of 26
    Maybe they are dewokefying their HR like many big ones are doing.

    Agreed... Other companies both BIG and small are getting rid of the DEI initiative and its upper echelon hires and supporters and hiring the right people for the job.
    Just like all the bigots are saying, fire all the darkies because they are not ever going to be equal to lily white supremists. Nice to out yourself so early after joining.

    JFC, AI, is this the kind of member and comment you want on your forums?


    It’s a factual comment. There is nothing wrong with that. DEI isn’t some new religion everyone has to agree with. 

    Ending DEI isn’t discriminatory. Having it IS. Just not against those you’d be o upset about. 

    Cancel culture has been played out. There’s a memo going around. 

    If we disagree on a principle, ideal, etc. let’s disagree. But let’s not start going after each other over a difference in opinion. 
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  • Reply 17 of 26

    blastdoor said:
    elijahg said:
    Is two people leaving really an "exodus"?
    Ha ha -- yeah, like when Moses and one other guy left Egypt :-) 
    Um… the entirety of Israeli’s enslaved by Egypt left Egypt…

    I know…I missed the Sarcasm. Lol
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  • Reply 18 of 26
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,963member
    elijahg said:
    Is two people leaving really an "exodus"?
    No but it's the stupid piss poor journalism of today. Say anything to get clicks and views. 
    elijahg
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  • Reply 19 of 26
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 7,018member
    Well, they're HR people. It's not like they'll be missed or did anything useful.
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  • Reply 20 of 26
    9secondkox2 said: Ending DEI isn’t discriminatory. Having it IS. 
    The only way that you could claim that it's "discriminatory" is if you could show credible statistics that whites are underrepresented in the corporate job market relative to their percentage of the population. You have to understand that it's not really about what people think/feel/say. It's about the statistics. Like the famous example of the Vietnam War where blacks were overrepresented as service members in Vietnam relative to their percentage of the population and significantly underrepresented as officers. The bias showed up in the promotional path. 
    williamlondondewme9secondkox2ronn
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