Norway gets world's first Apple Pay alternative for iPhone

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A Norwegian firm has become the first to take advantage of the EU law that required Apple to allow Apple Pay rivals to use its iPhone NFC technology.

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Tap to Vipps works exactly the same way that Apple Pay does -- image credit: Vipps MobilePay



As per the requirements of the EU's Digital Markets Act, Apple has been adding APIs to allow rivals to use its iPhone NFC in their digital wallet and banking apps. Now users of Vipps MobilePay in Norway can simply elect to use that service instead of Apple Pay.

"We have fought for years to be able to compete on equal footing with Apple," said Rune Garborg, CEO of Vipps MobilePay, in a blog post, "and it feels almost surreal to finally be able to launch our very own solution."

"This will now be a very exciting battle between the world's biggest brand and Vipps," continued Garborg. "Being the first in the world to offer an alternative to Apple Pay on iPhone is a huge achievement for us."

That battle will be to persuade users to switch from the default Apple Pay to Vipps. Garborg says that users will switch because of the benefits of being able to use Tap with Vipps whether they are customers of Norway's SpareBank 1, DNB, or over 40 other local banks.

"We believe that Vipps users find it advantageous to only have to deal with one payment app," said Garborg, "and finally have the opportunity to use Vipps in situations where they would normally use their plastic card."

The new Tap with Vipps service will reportedly work on all card payment terminals that accept BankAxept, Norway's national payment system. Vipps says it will be adding MasterCard and Visa support before the summer.

While Vipps is the first Apple Pay alternative to go live, there are other firms across the EU who are working to launch their own rival systems. Following the EU's demand that the NFC technology be opened to rivals across Europe, Apple has begun to bring the same option to developers in other regions, including the US.



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  • Reply 1 of 31
    nubusnubus Posts: 661member
    Norway isn't even part of EU and the Norwegian legislation for copying EU Digital Markets Act isn't in place yet. Norway is however part of EEA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Economic_Area) and Apple opened payment handling for EEA: https://developer.apple.com/support/hce-transactions-in-apps/



    ronndewmeappleinsideruser
  • Reply 2 of 31
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,078member
    This is excellent news. My bank (BBVA) will also get on this train at some point too.

    In non-payment related, iPhone NFC news, the Barcelona transport option (T-Mobilitat) will also be available for iPhones before year end, although Barcelona had to push this via the EU to get Apple to budge. 
    sphericronndewme
  • Reply 3 of 31
    sirdirsirdir Posts: 199member
    avon b7 said:
    In non-payment related, iPhone NFC news, the Barcelona transport option (T-Mobilitat) will also be available for iPhones before year end, although Barcelona had to push this via the EU to get Apple to budge. 
    The way apple has to forced to do the right thing seemingly kicking and screaming makes me really want to reconsider the alternatives. I’m still a fan of their products but they’re getting borderline evil.
    a_user
  • Reply 4 of 31
    It sounds like the only advantage is that those local Norwegian banks don't allow Apple Pay. 
    edited December 2024 lolliverwatto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 31
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,078member
    It sounds like the only advantage is that those local Norwegian banks don't allow Apple Pay. 
    The major benefit is choice for the end user and with it, competition and innovation.

    Apple can be bypassed completely (loosening its grip on Apple Pay, NFC revenues) but the option to remain 'all in' on Apple Pay remains should users choose to do that. 

    On the Android side, Google Pay is still unable to handle the dynamic CVV on my 'rechargeable' card in spite of me having reported issues for a couple of years now. 

    The solution? I use BBVA Pay and now never even consider Google Pay. 

    Choice is good. 
    dewme
  • Reply 6 of 31
    avon b7 said:
    It sounds like the only advantage is that those local Norwegian banks don't allow Apple Pay. 
    The major benefit is choice for the end user and with it, competition and innovation.

    Apple can be bypassed completely (loosening its grip on Apple Pay, NFC revenues) but the option to remain 'all in' on Apple Pay remains should users choose to do that. 

    On the Android side, Google Pay is still unable to handle the dynamic CVV on my 'rechargeable' card in spite of me having reported issues for a couple of years now. 

    The solution? I use BBVA Pay and now never even consider Google Pay. 

    Choice is good. 
    I didn't see any innovations or pricing benefits mentioned in the article. 
    twolf2919teejay2012ronnappleinsideruserlolliversconosciutodanoxMplsPwatto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 31
    avon b7 said:
    It sounds like the only advantage is that those local Norwegian banks don't allow Apple Pay. 
    The major benefit is choice for the end user and with it, competition and innovation.

    I didn't see any innovations or pricing benefits mentioned in the article. 
    The benefit seems to be that this is not Apple. The innovation seems to be that this is not Apple but runs on Apple hardware. Very exciting /s


    ronncommentzillaheadfull0winestompylolliversconosciutobeowulfschmidtwatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 31
    The pricing benefit is to the Bank since ApplePay takes a small percentage. But I'm unclear, do these banks allow Apple Pay or are they requiring their service (VIPS).

    I'm more curious what the user sees. Is it like having another card in your wallet, or can you not mix ApplePay and VIPS. Will banks still support ApplePay if they can switch to something that gives them more money. Will users have an option to use ApplePay if all banks move to VIPS?
    appleinsideruserdanoxwatto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 31

    There is information missing in this article. 

    Vipps was started by the largest bank in Norway, DnB.

    DnB is still the largest shareholder in Vipps and have been actively working against Apple Pay since the launch of Apple Pay. To the point of buying smaller competitors and shutting down their Apple Pay features. Just do a search for Sbanken. 

    It might be construed as a win for some, but to me it’s just from one walled garden to another walled garden..

    dewmeronnstompylolliversconosciutobeowulfschmidtdanoxwatto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 31
    Nothing beats Apple Pay features, security and privacy. Not touching anything else unless it's a special needs situation.
    ronnappleinsideruserlolliversconosciutodanoxwatto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 31
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,078member
    avon b7 said:
    It sounds like the only advantage is that those local Norwegian banks don't allow Apple Pay. 
    The major benefit is choice for the end user and with it, competition and innovation.

    Apple can be bypassed completely (loosening its grip on Apple Pay, NFC revenues) but the option to remain 'all in' on Apple Pay remains should users choose to do that. 

    On the Android side, Google Pay is still unable to handle the dynamic CVV on my 'rechargeable' card in spite of me having reported issues for a couple of years now. 

    The solution? I use BBVA Pay and now never even consider Google Pay. 

    Choice is good. 
    I didn't see any innovations or pricing benefits mentioned in the article. 
    That's not relevant. No alternatives (on pricing or innovation) were even possible before this. 

    My bank says its app is the world's best mobile banking solution. There may be a chunk of marketing thought in that claim and I don't know all the alternatives but I'd rather competitors had the option to exist than not. If there is a surefire way to stifle innovation, it is by having the market closed off to just one player. 

    That was the case prior to this. 
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 12 of 31
    As long as Banks don’t compromise the security of the system or  start mining data. I like the tokenized system where the merchants don’t get to see my actual card number, store it, then lose is in a data breach. 
    ronnappleinsideruserwatto_cobra
  • Reply 13 of 31
    Let’s say Apple Pay no longer becomes profitable because vendors are able to profit from Apple Pay without investing billions in maintenance and development costs. Will countries then sue Apple for dropping Apple Pay?
    lolliverwatto_cobra
  • Reply 14 of 31
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,708member
    avon b7 said:
    avon b7 said:
    It sounds like the only advantage is that those local Norwegian banks don't allow Apple Pay. 
    The major benefit is choice for the end user and with it, competition and innovation.

    Apple can be bypassed completely (loosening its grip on Apple Pay, NFC revenues) but the option to remain 'all in' on Apple Pay remains should users choose to do that. 

    On the Android side, Google Pay is still unable to handle the dynamic CVV on my 'rechargeable' card in spite of me having reported issues for a couple of years now. 

    The solution? I use BBVA Pay and now never even consider Google Pay. 

    Choice is good. 
    I didn't see any innovations or pricing benefits mentioned in the article. 
    That's not relevant. No alternatives (on pricing or innovation) were even possible before this. 

    My bank says its app is the world's best mobile banking solution. There may be a chunk of marketing thought in that claim and I don't know all the alternatives but I'd rather competitors had the option to exist than not. If there is a surefire way to stifle innovation, it is by having the market closed off to just one player. 

    That was the case prior to this. 
    My bank is for sure chomping at the bit — they dragged for AGES until they finally supported Apple Pay, and recently they've trying to sign everybody onto cashback points tied into their debit/credit cards, making them extra money by selling off my entire purchase history. 

    I'm pretty sure they'll immediately kick Apple Pay to the curb for their own "solution" the second they can, and sell off whatever additional data Apple hasn't let them access so far. 

    Bated breath, yeah. 
    ronnappleinsideruserwatto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 31
    chadbagchadbag Posts: 2,029member
    Apple Pay with all sorts of credit cards and debit cards.  the consumer has choice.    The difference is that Apple controlled the low technical level.   Opening tact up really doesn’t provide more banking choice.   In fact choosing Vipps seems to reduce seems to reduce your choice.  Apple Pay works with all sorts of Visa and MasterCard and Amex and JCB and transit cards from all over the world.   I have  Visa and MasterCard from multiple  different banks and credit unions and Amex and discover as well as Suica, Pasmo, and ICOCA cards in my Apple Wallet.   I have choice.   As long as the banking institution wants to play Apple Pay would work.   

    It just allows others to profit off of Apples R&D and technical platform instead of actual banking services.   
    ronnihatescreennameslolliversconosciutowatto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 31
    Now instead of having one wallet, we will be just like Android!

    Every company has its own wallet and is not compatible with anything else.

    Now you can't choose a closed platform for the benefits it offers. Everyone is entitled to everything.

    Thank you EU for screwing a new thing!
    lolliverronnbeowulfschmidtwatto_cobra
  • Reply 17 of 31
    XedXed Posts: 2,921member
    avon b7 said:
    It sounds like the only advantage is that those local Norwegian banks don't allow Apple Pay. 
    The major benefit is choice for the end user and with it, competition and innovation.

    Apple can be bypassed completely (loosening its grip on Apple Pay, NFC revenues) but the option to remain 'all in' on Apple Pay remains should users choose to do that. 

    On the Android side, Google Pay is still unable to handle the dynamic CVV on my 'rechargeable' card in spite of me having reported issues for a couple of years now. 

    The solution? I use BBVA Pay and now never even consider Google Pay. 

    Choice is good. 
    foregoneconclusion writes, "those local Norwegian banks don't allow Apple Pay" and you replay with "choice is good." You mean the choice to not support ApplePay. How exactly is this good for anyone else but the bank. Your comment sounds like you wish the defunct CurrentC was the payment system in use at all CVS stores right now.
    ronnsconosciutowatto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 31
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,255member
    "We have fought for years to be able to compete on equal footing with Apple," said Rune Garborg, CEO of Vipps MobilePay

    Only in the EU is it considered "equal footing" when the government hands you another company's hardware and IP to use free of charge. Maybe Vipps should have spent those years developing its own phone and VippsPay system? Little wonder that European economies are and have been in the toilet. I honestly wish Apple would just pull the plug on selling to Europe and "Let them eat Android." 
    commentzillawatto_cobra
  • Reply 19 of 31
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,708member
    charlesn said:
    "We have fought for years to be able to compete on equal footing with Apple," said Rune Garborg, CEO of Vipps MobilePay

    Only in the EU is it considered "equal footing" when the government hands you another company's hardware and IP to use free of charge. Maybe Vipps should have spent those years developing its own phone and VippsPay system? Little wonder that European economies are and have been in the toilet. I honestly wish Apple would just pull the plug on selling to Europe and "Let them eat Android." 
    I had no idea the United States is now part of the EU… 

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-apple-monopolizing-smartphone-markets

    Point 4: 
    • Limiting Third Party Digital Wallets. Apple has prevented third-party apps from offering tap-to-pay functionality, inhibiting the creation of cross-platform third-party digital wallets.“
    sconosciutowatto_cobra
  • Reply 20 of 31
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,078member
    Xed said:
    avon b7 said:
    It sounds like the only advantage is that those local Norwegian banks don't allow Apple Pay. 
    The major benefit is choice for the end user and with it, competition and innovation.

    Apple can be bypassed completely (loosening its grip on Apple Pay, NFC revenues) but the option to remain 'all in' on Apple Pay remains should users choose to do that. 

    On the Android side, Google Pay is still unable to handle the dynamic CVV on my 'rechargeable' card in spite of me having reported issues for a couple of years now. 

    The solution? I use BBVA Pay and now never even consider Google Pay. 

    Choice is good. 
    foregoneconclusion writes, "those local Norwegian banks don't allow Apple Pay" and you replay with "choice is good." You mean the choice to not support ApplePay. How exactly is this good for anyone else but the bank. Your comment sounds like you wish the defunct CurrentC was the payment system in use at all CVS stores right now.
    The article states that until now there was a sole default wallet option on iPhones: Apple Pay.

    Obviously it works in Norway and users use it. Choice now exists. That some local banks don't accept it is irrelevant. That is up to them. As it is across the globe. 

    That doesn't affect the new option of choice which didn't exist before.

    How is it good for anyone but the bank? Choice for users. 

    If my bank offers its own wallet system, why should I be given the sole option of Apple Pay and know Apple takes a cut of every transaction? 

    That decision should be in the hands of the user. Now it is.

    Will banks back away from Apple Pay? That isn't relevant to the reasons the EU imposed these changes.

    Apple will have to compete. Innovate. Make customers want to use it and if they see their banks stop supporting Apple Pay then the users should vote with their, erm, wallets. 

    My response to Foregoneconclusion was not limited to Norway but the impact of the EU imposed changes. 
    muthuk_vanalingamspheric
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